Pool Is One Of The Hardest Games

[JB Cases]

Good Lord. You are out of it. I have never had any arguments or even the slightest issue with a pool pro. Why did you say it?? Why keep trying to get CJ into our deal? You are simple mad at me because you don't like my opinion, which is that I think (and really know) that Lou is gonna tap that ass for you. Nothing more. I like CJ and his past recollections are great. But I like SJD and others also. I don't call for people to be banned for having a differing opinion from mine. I never did post up those pm's that you claimed you didn't send. I didn't want to cause a scene. But now I'm having second thoughts because of your behavior and the way you lash out at me and others for no reason. So you might want to just cool it. I'll see you at Sandcastle. Sorry. I will not be @ DCC. Wish I could.

Lou wont be tapping this ass for sure. I never called for anyone to be banned for having a different opinion. Just for trolling, which is what you do.

Post what you want. Nothing I wrote to you in private is anything I wouldn't or haven't said in public. Blackmail doesn't work on me anon.

 

[JB Cases]

That's funny you calling someone else a Troll you are by far the biggest Troll on this board ,, your opinion has no more merit than anyone's else's but guess what that's what this site is for its a place for people to share options with out that it would not exist

CJ is a big boy he does not need you the hugger to stick up for him he is well capable of doing that himself and unlike you he at least banters with class ,you might want to do some scientific research to figure out just how he does it ,,

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All I know is that when it comes to debating the difficulty of pool those who are highly skilled have experience that should wield more weight. You don't have that experience.

So far the sum total of your contributions in this thread has been pure nonsense. As for nuthuggery......I pick real pros to fawn over unlike you and what's his name?

 

[CJ Wiley]

baseball is hard, football is hard, pool is hard and checkers is hard.

Man, what happened to our wonderful, and playful thread ?

OK, baseball is hard, football is hard, pool is hard and checkers is hard. Enough of that stuff......

Now back to the "pool wars" here

All those games are easier than chinese arithmetic.....

 

[one stroke]

All I know is that when it comes to debating the difficulty of pool those who are highly skilled have experience that should wield more weight. You don't have that experience.

So far the sum total of your contributions in this thread has been pure nonsense. As for nuthuggery......I pick real pros to fawn over unlike you and what's his name?

It holds weight in that sport , however that's does not make them a expert in other sports
There my opinion is as valid as theirs and certainly is as valid as anything you can spew out of your yap


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[SJDinPHX]

It holds weight in that sport , however that's does not make them an expert in other sports
There my opinion is as valid as theirs and certainly is as valid as anything you can spew out of your yap.

All I know is that when it comes to debating the difficulty of pool those who are highly skilled have experience that should wield more weight. You don't have that experience.

So far the sum total of your contributions in this thread has been pure nonsense. As for nuthuggery......I pick real pros to fawn over unlike you and what's his name? <--Insert any one of several name's, currently trying to get John B. to STFU !

This is where I'm confused John ?...As much as you love one pocket, why would you bother to 'fawn' and 'dangle' yourself, over someone who thinks 9 ball (ugh) is a better game than 'one pocket' ?

There is no telling how much weight I could have given Mr.Wil-ey at 1P.. (prime to prime of course)..It probably would have
been similar, to what I gave that other 9ball specialist ! (insert 'bragging' music)..I know you have ALL the books, John..
...What does Mr. Hall have to say about my one hole game, in "Rags to Rifleman" ?

PS..Some guy's heads are just not shaped right to learn the BEST game on a pool table, so they don't even try !..
Let me say this John, I respect the fact that you are TRYING to learn the game, and your head IS definately shaped right...
...Its the rest of your body, that is just NOT cooperating ! :sorry: :sorry: :sorry:

 

[dudlock]

Lou wont be tapping this ass for sure. I never called for anyone to be banned for having a different opinion. Just for trolling, which is what you do.

Post what you want. Nothing I wrote to you in private is anything I wouldn't or haven't said in public. Blackmail doesn't work on me anon.

Oh, so now I'm a blackmailer?? Just because you told a lie and I called you out about it?? Real good. No wonder you got all those bans. You need to just stop this madness and get down to some serious one pocket preparations, so you just might be able to salvage two or three games in that session and maintain a shread of dignity. You're the King Troll of all trolls.

 

[CJ Wiley]

You lived in Ft. Worth for years and everyone here considers you a "short stop". Guess you didn't impress {them} climbing on the tables "trying" to reach shots. LoL

This is where I'm confused John ?...As much as you love one pocket, why would you bother to 'fawn' and 'dangle' yourself, over someone who thinks 9 ball (ugh) is a better game than 'one pocket' ?

There is no telling how much weight I could have given Mr.Wil-ey at 1P.. (prime to prime of course)..It probably would have
been similar, to what I gave that other 9ball specialist ! (insert 'bragging' music)..I know you have ALL the books, John..
...What does Mr. Hall have to say about my one hole game, in "Rags to Rifleman" ?

PS..Some guy's heads are just not shaped right to learn the BEST game on a pool table, so they don't even try !..
Let me say this John, I respect the fact that you are TRYING to learn the game, and your head IS definately shaped right...
...Its the rest of your body, that is just NOT cooperating ! :sorry: :sorry: :sorry:

 

[Baby Huey]

Pool isn't a tough game to play. It's a very hard game to play. Back at my room the conversation always goes back to how difficult it is to play golf vs. pool. The same argument goes on and on. Well the same guys who argue that golf is more difficult play pool poorly also play golf poorly. Pool isn't measured in making a shot here or there or even running out here or there. It is measured in the long haul which is exactly like golf. Sure playing conditions affect golf but the best players seem to keep winning over and over. Pool is exactly the same. Once in a while a neophyte breaks through but for the most part when Dennis, Alex, Shane, Correy, Busty et al are in the tournament, those guys are going to be in the running for the finals. Why is that? Simple, they play the best. Isn't that not the case in golf? Lastly, in pool you are playing someone and when you get to the table you get to shoot what he/she left you. In golf you are playing only yourself and what you left yourself. You also get to keep shooting regardless of what happened in your shot. Try playing the next to the last day of a pool tournament. You might have to walk the losers side and play 12 hours or more just to play in the semi's and finals the last day. Anyone who doesn't think that's tough to do hasn't been there and done it.

 

[AtLarge]

... What does Mr. Hall have to say about my one hole game, in "Rags to Rifleman" ? ...

Sounds like you might have given him a good beating. Buddy eventually became a very good One-Pocket player. At what stages of your 1-P careers did you two play? Was it before your prime, during your prime, or past your prime? Was it before Buddy's prime (at 1-P, not 9-Ball), during his prime, or past his prime?

 

[JB Cases]

Oh, so now I'm a blackmailer?? Just because you told a lie and I called you out about it?? Real good. No wonder you got all those bans. You need to just stop this madness and get down to some serious one pocket preparations, so you just might be able to salvage two or three games in that session and maintain a shread of dignity. You're the King Troll of all trolls.

Yes, when you threaten to expose something in exchange for a behavior you want then it's blackmail. I didn't tell a lie I simply didn't remember sending you more than one PM. But there is nothing in the PMs I did send you that I am afraid for everyone to see.

The only reason you got the pms is because you were trolling me and I didn't want to have the discussion on the open forum. So again post them if you like if you think it important that you do so.

As for the one pocket, again if you aren't willing to bet then your opinion means nothing. I could beat Lou when I didn't know anything about one pocket, I can beat him today if we play and I will beat him on March 18th. You aren't willing to bet it so perhaps you should speak up about as much as you are willing to bet. If you want to bet $1000 then we can freeze it up privately and you can run your mouth all you want to.

PM me if you find some heart.

 

[JB Cases]

It holds weight in that sport , however that's does not make them a expert in other sports
There my opinion is as valid as theirs and certainly is as valid as anything you can spew out of your yap


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Perhaps but we are on a pool forum. And professionals are the best in the game/sport of pool.

Therefore they know just how difficult POOL is. And if they have done anything else they can compare it to pool better than you can.

In fact you would probably be living proof that pool is harder than whatever else you think you were good at because you most likely are terrible at pool despite claiming to be intelligent and being mentored by a wannabe pro.

 

[dudlock]

Yes, when you threaten to expose something in exchange for a behavior you want then it's blackmail.

The only reason you got the pms is because you were trolling me and I didn't want to have the discussion on the open forum. So again post them if you like if you think it important that you do so.

As for the one pocket, again if you aren't willing to bet then your opinion means nothing. I could beat Lou when I didn't know anything about one pocket, I can beat him today if we play and I will beat him on March 18th. You aren't willing to bet it so perhaps you should speak up about as much as you are willing to bet.


What the hell are you talking about now?? Threaten to expose something in exchange for a behavior I want?? I don't care about your behavior or what you may decide in your crazy mixed up head, to do or say. Why would I? You are losing it. I'm not the type to brag about my money or make big bets and then call them off for no good reason. That's your thing. To tell the honest truth, I'm just going to quit dealing with you, because you are just going to get banned again. I can see it coming. I do not want that to happen, because to tell the truth, I enjoy reading your posts and ravings as a nice diversion and entertainment from time to time. You need to really start preparing for your doomsday match with The Iceberg. He's going to beat you so bad. See you at The Sandcastle...

 

[Pushout]

Typical of way too many threads on AZ today, deteriorated into accusations and name calling and hijacking. Nice try, Johnny.

 

[Buzzard II]

I'm getting to this fray late but back to that dirt bike thing. While it's been 45 years since I rode motocross I have to say I'm a much better motorcycle rider than I am a pool player.

Which is a good thing, because otherwise I'd be dead.

 

[JB Cases]

Yes, when you threaten to expose something in exchange for a behavior you want then it's blackmail.

The only reason you got the pms is because you were trolling me and I didn't want to have the discussion on the open forum. So again post them if you like if you think it important that you do so.

As for the one pocket, again if you aren't willing to bet then your opinion means nothing. I could beat Lou when I didn't know anything about one pocket, I can beat him today if we play and I will beat him on March 18th. You aren't willing to bet it so perhaps you should speak up about as much as you are willing to bet.


What the hell are you talking about now?? Threaten to expose something in exchange for a behavior I want?? I don't care about your behavior or what you may decide in your crazy mixed up head, to do or say. Why would I? You are losing it. I'm not the type to brag about my money or make big bets and then call them off for no good reason. That's your thing. To tell the honest truth, I'm just going to quit dealing with you, because you are just going to get banned again. I can see it coming. I do not want that to happen, because to tell the truth, I enjoy reading your posts and ravings as a nice diversion and entertainment from time to time. You need to really start preparing for your doomsday match with The Iceberg. He's going to beat you so bad. See you at The Sandcastle...

The "Iceberg"?? Now he has a nickname. That's cute. Not the same one most fols who deal with him choose to use but cute anyway.

Why are you sweating what I bet? You didn't bet anyway and won't bet so what's it to you?

You also can't get me banned. I know how to deal with trolls now. Doesn't matter what anonymous name you use this week and how much you try and troll me it won't work.

The kind of guy Lou is? Because he turned down a few dollars in expense money? The same guy who cried and whined about wanted to get paid to play on stream? This is the guy you look up to? Figures. Neither of you have a clue about pool at the highest level yet both of you pretend to be qualified to call out and denigrate those who do.

If you think the "Iceberg" is going to run over me then why don't we make this a little closer and let "The Iceberg" play someone else for my $10K. I have an 18 year old kid named Landon that would love to play him. And if The Iceberg is scared of a teenager then Landon's father, who is close to Lou's age would be happy to step in. You think the Iceberg wants any piece of either of them?

Of course he doesn't. He only wants to pick on The Casemaker, wrongly thinking that the case maker can't make a ball. Thought that ten years ago too and got spanked.

 

[JB Cases]

This is where I'm confused John ?...As much as you love one pocket, why would you bother to 'fawn' and 'dangle' yourself, over someone who thinks 9 ball (ugh) is a better game than 'one pocket' ?

There is no telling how much weight I could have given Mr.Wil-ey at 1P.. (prime to prime of course)..It probably would have
been similar, to what I gave that other 9ball specialist ! (insert 'bragging' music)..I know you have ALL the books, John..
...What does Mr. Hall have to say about my one hole game, in "Rags to Rifleman" ?

PS..Some guy's heads are just not shaped right to learn the BEST game on a pool table, so they don't even try !..
Let me say this John, I respect the fact that you are TRYING to learn the game, and your head IS definately shaped right...
...Its the rest of your body, that is just NOT cooperating ! :sorry: :sorry: :sorry:

I don't actually fawn over any pro but I do respect them all tremendously for the amount of skill they have. Some of I respect even more for the amount of character they have.

As for one pocket and nine ball, two different games, different requirements. Neither is harder than the other in my opinion but for the sake of accuracy CJ said 2 foul nine ball is harder than one pocket. He is the one willing to debate it on stream and try and prove it. You and him are more qualified to debate it being as how you were a good shortstop/semipro speed player and he is a champion speed player.

And right now you would be right. I am learning so much about one pocket that my body isn't cooperating. Lou should not have been so nitty and come to OKC and picked up some easy money while I am in one pocket experiment phase. I will give him an opportunity to make some at Derby when I ask him to play some $500 one pocket though.

 

[Rasputin]

There was a big discussion on a football (or soccer, as you might say) forum, which I frequent, on whether or not the professional players have better understanding of the game, from a strategical point of view, than the dedicated fans.

I was of the opinion that many of the professional football players are rather unaware of the strategical finesses of the game, and that an educated opinion is more likely to be found among the fans... given that the pro players cannot dedicate that much time to analyze other games than their own.

However, in billiards, being a one-against-one sport, I think that as a rule of thumb, the better player you are, the better understanding you have of the game. Not all of the best players can however articulate their views that well. THAT is an different set of skills alltogether.

 

[SJDinPHX]

(1)..I don't actually fawn over any pro but I do respect them all tremendously for the amount of skill they have. Some I respect even more for the amount of character they have.

(2)..You and CJ are more qualified to debate it being as how you were a good shortstop/semipro speed player and he is a champion speed player....

(3)..I will give Lou an opportunity to make some at Derby when I ask him to play some $500 one pocket though.

John...I tried to get out, but you keep drawing me back in, with your [sic] astute observations !..Allow me to itemize..

As for #1...Yes you DO 'fawn' and 'nuthug' any pro player who thinks like you do..(which can only be described as 'very strange') And your 'character judgement', or more often 'character asassination', is seriously lacking in common sense !

Re; #2...In all his exciting worldly travels, with Omaha Fat's, (and other's) why didn't they bother stopping by where I was, when I was in my mid 60's ? (after I retired)..They knew they could have made a decent score, off a 'shortstop' !..Let me tell you why they didn't..They all knew CJ could NOT win playing one pocket, and he did not HAVE to win playing '2 shot foul 9ball', if he gave up the tiniest bit of weight ! :sorry:... In fact, prime to prime, there are many on here, who know he may not have won playing EVEN '2shot foul' 9 ball !

Re; #3..I would advise Lou, not to mess with you at DCC (or anywhere else)...He would have to stall, (to keep from running over you) and it may affect you going off for your entire 20K in March !

I am not surprised at you 'teaming up' with Spider, and MarkGW, against all the sensible guy's on the forum !..Spider is good at cartoons, and inventing 'hi-tech' sh*t..and Mark is a 'rock star' !...I'm sorry, but what does that have to do with them knowing ANY F-ING THING at all, about pool ? (especially Spider,who comes off as a complete f-ing 'doorknob')..

SJD....WGPH...

 

[CJ Wiley]

pool tables called "Lawns" and Pro Players "whippersnappers".

John...I tried to get out, but you keep drawing me back in, with your [sic] astute observations !..Allow me to itemize..

As for #1...Yes you DO 'fawn' and 'nuthug' any pro player who thinks like you do..(which can only be described as 'very strange') And your 'character judgement', or more often 'character asassination', is seriously lacking in common sense !

Re; #2...In all his exciting worldly travels, with Omaha Fat's, (and other's) why didn't they bother stopping by where I was, when I was in my mid 60's ? (after I retired)..They knew they could have made a decent score, off a 'shortstop' !..Let me tell you why they didn't..They all knew CJ could NOT win playing one pocket, and he did not HAVE to win playing '2 shot foul 9ball', if he gave up the tiniest bit of weight ! :sorry:... In fact, prime to prime, there are many on here, who know he may not have won playing EVEN '2shot foul' 9 ball !

Re; #3..I would advise Lou, not to mess with you at DCC (or anywhere else)...He would have to stall, (to keep from running over you) and it may affect you going off for your entire 20K in March !

I am not surprised at you 'teaming up' with Spider, and MarkGW, against all the sensible guy's on the forum !..Spider is good at cartoons, and inventing 'hi-tech' sh*t..and Mark is a 'rock star' !...I'm sorry, but what does that have to do with them knowing ANY F-ING THING at all, about pool ? (especially Spider,who comes off as a complete f-ing 'doorknob')..

SJD....WGPH...

Everyone in Ft. Worth Texas says he was a "good short stop"....I have no idea, I had never heard of him until I started reading his bizarre posts.

I'd be willing to spot him the 5/7 and the Break playing 'Two Shot Shoot Out' here in Ft. Worth, or the 6/8 and the Break in a neutral city.

I will spot him 10/8 on a 10' Table playing One Pocket too if that's his "best game".

We can debate pool techniques or compare One Pocket strategy to "Two Shot Shoot Out' (2 Foul 9 Ball) in writing or on streaming video, or we can do it on 'Run Out Radio' if AZbilliards wants to host it. This may be entertaining to many people to hear Dick's "spin" up against my perception of the games.....a friendly debate on these topics would be fun and very informative.....I'm 100% sure "Two Shot Shoot Out" will win.

It's always funny to hear pool tables called "Lawns" and Pro Players "Whippersnappers".

 

[SJDinPHX]

I'd be willing to spot him the 5/7 and the Break playing 'Two Shot Shoot Out' here in Ft. Worth, or the 6/8 and the Break in a neutral city.

I will spot him 10/8 on a 10' Table playing One Pocket too if that's his "best game".

Sorry to see I must have struck a nerve, and caused you to lose your cool !..Only you could be self -centered, and dense enough, to issue the above challenges !..In case you didn't notice, I was talking about a mere 20 years ago, when you were in your prime, and I could still stand upright !

You heard of me all right, you just chose to avoid me !...But thats OK, lots of NON-one pocket player's thought they could win !...The fact is, you would have needed considerable weight from me, playing one pocket on a 5 X 10, even when I was winding down !..And a whole lot of people know that to be the truth ! :sorry:

As for your argument about one pocket, versus 9 ball,..Anybody (except maybe Spider) knows better !...You don't have to rely on someone you never heard of, just ask Cardone, Busty, Efren, Buddy, or any other top player who knows better !...You are embarassing no one but yourself, by your BIZAAR claims ! :sorry: