Sorry the concepts were too difficult, I will try and do better next time.
POOL MOST DIFFICULT SPORT
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If you've only been on a golf course for a few dozen rounds, you didn't "play" golf, you tried to play golf but basically chopped and hacked it around to not even come close to breaking 100. A good day on the course meant that you only lost three balls.
Staying in one specific sand trap on the course all day long and practicing it doesn't mean you're going to excel if you get in it again. The main thing is you need to know how to get out of sand traps to begin with which is why working on it anywhere is fine. Besides, even in that on course sand trap it constantly changes because it's a different shot each time. Why? Because the HOLE is moved to a different place on the green daily or the ball is in a different part of the sand trap that could be level, uphill, downhill, sidehill, or partially buried with a shorter or longer distance. You don't know that until you get there. If there's anything to learn, it's to avoid the sand trap to begin with when you hit the shot from the fairway to the green.
Working on a tee shot on a specific hole may or may not do any good either. Why? The elements. Wind in different directions and the severity of it, drizzle or rain, and where the tees are on that given day. They move them to make the hole play longer or shorter. I don't think you're doing yourself any favors or reflecting positively on your work background and education when it comes to golf. I'm no expert myself but I've definitely played enough golf and have a brother who has been a scratch player that fills me in. Pool? Sure, you can reproduce anything and everything that could occur while playing unless you're on a crappy table with rails at different speeds that are dead or ultra bouncy, or funky pockets and cloth.
Why don't you try the Allen Hopkins Q-Skills challenge and share the experience, good or bad. This IS a pool forum, not golf.
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What do you think is intermediate level for pool? I'm flooded with students who've played weekly or several times weekly for decades and have trouble running three balls.
I'm not talking about atheleticism only--we all know out-of-shape people can be stellar pool shooters. I'm talking about how baseball teaching is of excellent quality--anyone who goes to a camp will come out with some strong skills if they were a rank beginner on entry--and pool is paralyzed by bad teachers and by people avoiding instruction to learn from their fellow "experts".
Williebetmore = Dr. Donald Wardell
Bingo! That's it.
Allen Hopkins, the creator of Q-Skills Challenge. He definitely knew the games and what it takes.
Allen Hopkins (pool player) - Wikipedia
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You're another one who doesn't know anything about golf. He was the longest driver of the golf ball on the PGA Tour for
many years and won a good number of tournaments. His bad habits off the course of eating and drinking caught up with him.
He had a Coca Cola addiction and didn't do too bad in the beer department either. Here's his record as a player:
John Patrick Daly (born April 28, 1966) is an American professional golfer on the PGA Tour and PGA Tour Champions. Daly is known primarily for his driving distance off the tee (earning him the nickname "Long John"), his non-country-club appearance and attitude, his exceptionally long backswing, the inconsistency of his play (with some exceptional performances and some controversial incidents), and his personal life. His two greatest on-course accomplishments are his "zero-to-hero" victory in the 1991 PGA Championship, and his playoff victory over Costantino Rocca in the 1995 Open Championship.
In addition to his wins on U.S. soil, Daly has won accredited pro events in South Africa, Swaziland (Eswatini), Scotland, Germany, South Korea, Turkey, and Canada.
According to official performance statistics kept since 1980, Daly in 1997 became the first PGA Tour player to average more than 300 yards per drive over a full season. He did so again in every year from 1999 to 2008, and he was the only player to do so until 2003.[4] Daly also led the PGA Tour in driving distance 11 times from 1991 to 2002 with the exception of 1994 when Davis Love III took his spot.[5]
Daly's last PGA Tour victory came in San Diego in 2004, earning him a two-year playing exemption. After 2006, Daly's career began to falter and he had trouble making cuts and staying on the tour. He was primarily earning PGA Tour event entries through past champion status and numerous sponsor invitations. Since 2016, Daly has competed on the PGA Tour Champions circuit, winning the 2017 Insperity Invitational.
Daly is the only man from either Europe or the United States to win two major golf championships but not be selected for the Ryder Cup since that event began in 1927.
Daly has been successful in multiple businesses. He is endorsed by LoudMouth Golf Apparel and owns a golf course design company. In addition, Daly has written and recorded music, and has released two music albums.
He's done quite well for himself: https://www.sportskeeda.com/golf/john-daly-net-worth
That having been said, what have you done in any sport and what are your accomplishments, Dan?
many years and won a good number of tournaments. His bad habits off the course of eating and drinking caught up with him.
He had a Coca Cola addiction and didn't do too bad in the beer department either. Here's his record as a player:
| Number of wins by tour | |
|---|---|
| Best results in major championships (wins: 2) | |
| Achievements and awards | |
| PGA Tour | 5 |
| European Tour | 3 |
| Asian Tour | 1 |
| Sunshine Tour | 2 |
| Korn Ferry Tour | 1 |
| PGA Tour Champions | 1 |
| Other | 8 |
| Masters Tournament | T3: 1993 |
| PGA Championship | Won: 1991 |
| U.S. Open | T27: 1996 |
| The Open Championship | Won: 1995 |
In addition to his wins on U.S. soil, Daly has won accredited pro events in South Africa, Swaziland (Eswatini), Scotland, Germany, South Korea, Turkey, and Canada.
According to official performance statistics kept since 1980, Daly in 1997 became the first PGA Tour player to average more than 300 yards per drive over a full season. He did so again in every year from 1999 to 2008, and he was the only player to do so until 2003.[4] Daly also led the PGA Tour in driving distance 11 times from 1991 to 2002 with the exception of 1994 when Davis Love III took his spot.[5]
Daly's last PGA Tour victory came in San Diego in 2004, earning him a two-year playing exemption. After 2006, Daly's career began to falter and he had trouble making cuts and staying on the tour. He was primarily earning PGA Tour event entries through past champion status and numerous sponsor invitations. Since 2016, Daly has competed on the PGA Tour Champions circuit, winning the 2017 Insperity Invitational.
Daly is the only man from either Europe or the United States to win two major golf championships but not be selected for the Ryder Cup since that event began in 1927.
Daly has been successful in multiple businesses. He is endorsed by LoudMouth Golf Apparel and owns a golf course design company. In addition, Daly has written and recorded music, and has released two music albums.
He's done quite well for himself: https://www.sportskeeda.com/golf/john-daly-net-worth
That having been said, what have you done in any sport and what are your accomplishments, Dan?
KyHighball
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I'm pretty sure Mark Wilson also played baseball in college. I'm sure I've heard him make comments about it on stream.
I don't know how any sport can be harder than MMA. There's so much speed, strength, and technique that needs to be learned and perfected and then put it to use against someone who has an equal if not greater arsenal to knock each other out or
produce so much pain that one gives up. Compared to that, pool is for sissies with nothing very hard. Yes, I am a sissy.
produce so much pain that one gives up. Compared to that, pool is for sissies with nothing very hard. Yes, I am a sissy.
It was just a joke. Relax. I'll throw in a smiley face next time.
I played a lot of golf years ago but never got beyond the recreational level. I could hit pretty well but I had no consistency. I could par one or two holes in a row and then hit a triple bogey, mostly because of duffed shots. OTOH my brother was about a 5 handicap when he was 17 or 18.
I don't know how any sport can be harder than MMA. There's so much speed, strength, and technique that needs to be learned and perfected and then put it to use against someone who has an equal if not greater arsenal to knock each other out or
produce so much pain that one gives up. Compared to that, pool is for sissies.
produce so much pain that one gives up. Compared to that, pool is for sissies.
Joking and funnin' with each other is pretty much completely out of the ordinary. Emojis would help in those ever so rare times.It was just a joke. Relax. I'll throw in a smiley face next time.
Now you can play golf on the pool table with him and kick his butt.
WobblyStroke
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We might have different opinions on what constitutes an intermediate level baseball player, but I couldn't disagree more. Those guys still have to make powerful, accurate throws, be able to field hits, and hit at least fastballs well into the 70s if not 80s I'd guess. That's tough as hell.I hear what you're saying, certainly, but there are so many C and D players, I feel it's easier to get to be an intermediate-level baseballer than pool player. Therefore, lessons.
Twocylndr
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I believe it was Johnny Miller said this about pro golfers...a loose quote," Everyone on the PGA Tour was shooting par within 2 years of picking up a club, no matter what age, teens or in their 20's...it's a natural talent. You either have it or you don't. No amount of practice will get you to their level."
If that's the case with pool I'm doomed!!!
Agreed.
Unfortunately, he died when he was only 21 so we never knew how good he could have been.
WobblyStroke
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Sicko gamblers will bet on which rain drop reaches the bottom of a window first. There isn't a game out there that can't be turned into a bookie's dream. On that note, have any of you tried playing pool with a backgammon doubling cube? Awesome. When it's your turn at the table you can 'double' which leaves your opponent to choose between playing on for double the stakes or just conceding that you will get out and pay you out the original bet. The doubling cube offers 6 possible doubles per rack for a possible total wager of 64x the original bet. Beauty game. Have used it on a golf course before each shot as well. But this one's for the sickos only.
We're not disagreeing in any way.
There are very few intermediate pool players, relative to the tens of millions of players who play on a regular basis in the USA alone.
We all knew you don't know anything about pool but I'm starting to wonder if you know anything about mathematics .
Pool is a sport where the convergence of talent applies to all body types. Its audience is global and participates on social media.
The mathematics of a billiard model or billiard adoption rate is worth writing about. Matchroom investment has created an explosion of billiards content.
The economics of billiards a time with high demand and record closures of pool halls. What is the billiard economy and how has it shifted?
Billiards as a tourism tool, which countries are making it easy for billiard tournaments ?
How do billiard fans interact differently today than pre-internet? The progress of technology and the progress of billiards are worth noting. Billiards had the earlier explosion, while technology is setting more and more wakes each year.