Pool vs Snooker - A One-Player Comparison

The Renfro said:
good try but Darren has said he has never played snooker except in passing... Based on his perfomance I would expect to see Shane, Alex and a few others in attendance next year... I'd say Alex may have the nuts in a round robin between the 3 of them on those tables.....
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You guys don't get it AT ALL. Sadly, it's no surprise.
 
Do any american playrs have a chance at C8B ? Shane flopped at the 2014 Masters, and had visa problems ??......when invited for the 2015 Masters. Best of luck to Cory, seems like he is the only one willing to take his lumps to learn how to play properly.
 
SugarMaple said:
Do any american playrs have a chance at C8B ? Shane flopped at the 2014 Masters, and had visa problems ??......when invited for the 2015 Masters. Best of luck to Cory, seems like he is the only one willing to take his lumps to learn how to play properly.
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No, they have no chance. It is perfectly obvious why shane didn't go.
 
peppersauce said:
No, but not for lack of talent. The reason, IMO, is lack of proper snooker fundamentals. The game may be played with pool balls but the table is really just a 9ft snooker table. You can't cheat the pocket like you can on an American pool table to change tangent lines, you can't fire balls in down the rail, it changes the whole game for the Americans. The Europeans are used to it from playing snooker and E8B their whole lives. And where would you even go in America to prepare for an event like this? You won't find an English pool table and snooker tables are scarce. When you do find them they are usually 10ft with simonis 700 for golf games. Not good for practice. At least that's my experience.
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I think the fact that there aren't any tables from them to practice on is significant issue as well. I wouldn't be surprised if Chinese 8 ball were the future of professional pool, but not too many other countries will be competitive until these tables are widely available.
 
American tables, and particularly the focus on rotation games develops aiming and pattern play that is inconsistent with C8B. I'm sure some top US pool (only) players could make a transition, but it would be a painful endeavor I think.

I do wonder how much of Alex's success at Derby City was due to his playing some intense C8B for a few days which I suspect strengthened his fundamentals and got him staring at the balls like never before. The US table pockets must have looked like buckets to him after that.
 
peppersauce said:
It could be. That's where the money seems to be in pool at the moment. It's a very interesting game to watch on these tables as well. I've read posts in the past where people talk about how 8-ball is too easy for the pros. Well, problem solved. Chinese 8-ball to the rescue!

I've never been a fan of 8-ball but I have to admit I really enjoy watching C8B and would love to play it if it were available to me.

The downside for me, being American, is that you can't play all of the other great pool games on those tables like rotation games, 14.1, one pocket, banks, etc. The only pool game I could see playing on those tables is 8-ball.

Edit: Maybe one pocket if they installed sights on the rails. ;)
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You're right, I don't think any of the other great games besides one pocket would work on these tables. I mean, you could play them but they'd certainly lose something.

Also not the biggest fan of 8 ball normally, but these tables add a bit to the game. I saw more players refusing long pots, and caroming balls off the rails, and bumping opponents balls to the rails. It seems to add enough snooker elements to the game without becoming a poor mans version of it.
 
Grantstew said:
OK, But Darren was two time finalist in the E8B world championships. Alex should be good at this game, he is the best snooker player in North America by quite a distance.
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Darren has won buckets and buckets of top tour titles and events many many times at E8B. The world title was the only one that evaded him.

He dominated it for years and years..
 
Cameron Smith said:
I think the fact that there aren't any tables from them to practice on is significant issue as well. I wouldn't be surprised if Chinese 8 ball were the future of professional pool, but not too many other countries will be competitive until these tables are widely available.
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Tables can be converted by simply changing the rails.............would not be surprised if diamond is working on this now.
 
did that for years

Colin Colenso said:
American tables, and particularly the focus on rotation games develops aiming and pattern play that is inconsistent with C8B. I'm sure some top US pool (only) players could make a transition, but it would be a painful endeavor I think.

I do wonder how much of Alex's success at Derby City was due to his playing some intense C8B for a few days which I suspect strengthened his fundamentals and got him staring at the balls like never before. The US table pockets must have looked like buckets to him after that.
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I used to practice a couple hours a day on a very tight snooker table then go gamble on mostly bar boxes. Took a small time hustler that stayed with me a few days to the snooker table. Took him about forty-five minutes to figure out how to make a few balls. Then we went looking for a little action. First shot he took on a bar box he looked up at me and grinned. "Rexactly!"

I watched a little of the chinese eight ball and looked at the stat's, my opinion, they need to tighten the tables up a little more still.

Hu
 
playing on tight equippment before changing back to pooltables is a great thing. while i was studying, i played mostly on snookertables because they didnt charge much for students if you kept the table clean and helped polish the balls. after days at the 12 ft snookertable, i played some moneygames against notorious gamblers, but bangers.
7ft coin table, 8 ball, 20 bucks per rack... paid me lots of beer during these days :embarrassed2:
stopped playing for money after some1 didnt want to pay off and i was surrounded by a bunch of guys, hell was i happy i played football (soccer) for about 15 years and i could ran pretty fast :D
 
ShootingArts said:
I used to practice a couple hours a day on a very tight snooker table then go gamble on mostly bar boxes. Took a small time hustler that stayed with me a few days to the snooker table. Took him about forty-five minutes to figure out how to make a few balls. Then we went looking for a little action. First shot he took on a bar box he looked up at me and grinned. "Rexactly!"

I watched a little of the chinese eight ball and looked at the stat's, my opinion, they need to tighten the tables up a little more still.

Hu
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Nice story Hu,

I used to practice 50% on snooker tables during my E8B comp playing days. A couple of hours on the snooker table always made the pockets look bigger when stepping down to the smaller tables.

I'm not a big fan of super tight pockets, as I think it scares off beginners. I think we need rules that challenge the players, such as hitting multiple rails or colliding into another OB.

While I enjoy C8B, it is mainly a join the dots with excellent potting accuracy game. They move the CB as little as possible. I'd like to see a game where pots are a bit easier and the player must move the CB around more.

Colin
 
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