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I have a feeling that the women would not like playing on a tour where they have to play the men. They would find themselves starving as the men took all the prize money. As for as men being against it, why? The women, except for a few exceptions, for the most part would be easier to beat.
If it was successful enough and there was good prize money for the top female finisher I think it could work. If it was a big enough success the women could end up making more money. I promise you they would like it then.
They would still have all female tournaments too in my vision.
They would still have all female tournaments too in my vision.
Top woman finisher? What would be the point then? You would have a tournament within a tournament. It would also diminish the women in stature as well. It would erase everything they have worked so hard for. They don't need to be playing the men. For the public, all it would do is confirm that the women can't play with the men. For a woman to win a tournament with men it would be a rare as hens teeth. They would become second class citizens in the pool world. I see no up side.
All total 3 women out of the 32 seeded players have made it through.
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looks like this is already happening.
JBETpoker.net is offering bonus money to the top woman’s finisher of $1000 and $500 for the second highest in addition to the regular prize money.
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looks like this is already happening.
Let me explain my vision a little more. ESPN or ESPN 2 airs a great match that was recorded. It doesn't have to be the final. Let's say 5 years from now I film Shanelle Lorraine beating Earl Strickland 11 to 10 in a quarterfinal match with Earl getting pissed and the crowd roaring for Shanelle.
I pitch it to ESPN and they air it. Shanelle's match winning bank shot ends up on ESPN's top plays of the night, she ends up on the cover of several magazines and ends up hosting Saturday night live. All of a sudden pool is more popular and the prize money is bigger for everyone.
I see some upsides in my vision but of course I'm a big optimist.
I pitch it to ESPN and they air it. Shanelle's match winning bank shot ends up on ESPN's top plays of the night, she ends up on the cover of several magazines and ends up hosting Saturday night live. All of a sudden pool is more popular and the prize money is bigger for everyone.
I see some upsides in my vision but of course I'm a big optimist.
You answer the question yourself when you say "offering bonus money to the top woman’s finisher". It says, because the women are inferior they get a bonus for just doing well. It doesn't have to be true, that is the message it sends. It reduces woman's pool to nothing more then a novelty.
Again, by what you write you are saying that women are so inferior, if one should even win a match against a top male player it should be front page news. Doesn't do much to move women's pool forward. Again, it diminishes them to a novelty.Let me explain my vision a little more. ESPN or ESPN 2 airs a great match that was recorded. It doesn't have to be the final. Let's say 5 years from now I film Shanelle Lorraine beating Earl Strickland 11 to 10 in a quarterfinal match with Earl getting pissed and the crowd roaring for Shanelle.
I pitch it to ESPN and they air it. Shanelle's match winning bank shot ends up on ESPN's top plays of the night, she ends up on the cover of several magazines and ends up hosting Saturday night live. All of a sudden pool is more popular and the prize money is bigger for everyone.
I see some upsides in my vision but of course I'm a big optimist.
So out of the very few people that end up hearing about the bonus money a few of those people might feel like that means women are inferior at playing pool. This is a very small sacrifice that I could live with if it meant more people could make a living playing pool. If that makes it a deal-breaker for you that's cool.
One year ago Cha finished last place tie in Taiwan at womens 9ball world championship, and didnt make past group round robin.
she is like a completely different player!
just 1 years difference. That Charlie Williams must be one heckuva coach!
I just copied this from another thread. So in five years you think it's impossible for a woman to train and get good enough to beat Earl in a short race one time? Earl's game might not be stellar five years from now.
I don't see how that would be impossible.
I think as long as the player is a woman with pleasant physical traits, you'll always think they're the best player in the world. LOL!
As far as Earl's game not bieng stellar in five years, I mean, come on. Let me talk to you in 50 years, if you're still alive, and see if you want to run a foot race with a 20-year-old. Gimme a break!
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"a few of those people might feel like that means women are inferior at playing pool."
No, it confirms it.
You haven't actually said how people will be able to make a better living at pool because you let women enter mens tournaments? The novelty factor? I dare say that a board with matches showing women getting beat by big numbers will not do them much good. Also, beyond the novelty, why would anyone be more interested in watching some mid ranked women play a man over two top men players? What is the draw, the women have play in short skirts? You don't give the pool spectator much credit, nor the women much respect.
No one wants to a novelty act, they want respect. They already have a very good tour, better then the men and are doing very well, you want to make them a joke.
I see a logical debate with you is out of the question. I started this thread in hopes that someone who isn't making assumptions about me who has some power in the pool world might read this and get some ideas. I actually really care about the game and believe that I could make good money playing pool one day.
What logic is there comparing young female players with a Hall of Famers and male champions, some of whom are twice or thrice the age of the young female players?
Would you be pulling for a lady champion player who was 65 years old? Wait, there aren't any. I wonder why.
I'm not concerned about the .00000001 of the audience that might actually go to the website to look at the brackets and see that the women didn't do well. And by the way you are making an assumption that they won't do well which is another debate.
I care about the person who doesn't care about pool but likes a good close sporting event but is flipping through the channels and sees Shanelle playing Earl and decides to tune in. Then that person sees Shanelle win and is cheering for her all the way. Thousands of young female pool players are now into pool. NO skirts necessary at all.
Are you serious when you ask why anyone would rather watch that than two top men players? You can't be serious.
I said it was possible for Shanelle to get good enough in 5 years to beat Earl in a short race to 11. You rolled on the floor laughing. I then made a perfectly valid point about Yu Ram Cha beating Shane Van Boening after a year of training greatly improved her game. You of course ignored that point and made some analogies that were way too far exaggerated. Analogies are over rated.
There is nothing with thinking outside the box, that is what people do around big tables everyday in boards rooms all over the world. I don't think your current idea in it's current form is a good one. That is not to say it can't be brain stormed into something. In business, when you defend a point, it is to try to find it's weaknesses, not to win an argument. If your idea is a bad one you want to know it as much as everyone else.
Claiming you care more then the other party is not an element of a debate.
Men and women don't necessarily have to compete against each other to get the game more attention, although it would help. My vision is having them both play tournaments in the same venue. And compete for more money. My vision is in my book, Right on Cue. Let's stop arguing about what's good for pool and do something good for the game.
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