Post Pics of your Rubinos.

Fast Lenny

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I see Paul from time to time and he had 2 very nice looking cues with him,they hit ok for being stainless stell jointed but i ddint really play with them,i prefer phenolic joints.Can you guys post pics of cues of his and give me an opinion on him as a cuemaker,like how they hit and craftsmanship.Thanks guys in advance for replies.
 
Here's mine, Lenny. It's a sneaky with Paul's "Patriot Rings". The cue plays very lively. Nice feel, long taper, and solid ping to the hit. A little butt heavy for me, but the cue is constructed well. The bocote is very nice and you wouldn't think the rings would work with the colors, but they do in some strange way. That's something I notice about a lot of Paul's work. Seems like he's color blind, but they end up being some interesting cues, which are very unique.

My Rubino does have the phenolic joint. It and the rings are done very well (all phenolic) and are evenly matched in color. I've owned two Rubinos and they seem to be a great cue that you can occasionally find for a reasonable price...

Regards,

Steve
 

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let me first say that although it might sound like it, i have no issues with rubino. we knew each other in passing because i knew victor stein and met paul when he visited amsterdam in nyc. i have also played with four rubinos and seen about three others in person.
i was familiar with his cues around the early to mid 90's, when they were working on the first blue book.....

i think rubino cues play poorly, and they look equally bad. the best description of the hit, imo, is that it's unsophisticated, ie. it's closest to hitting like a wooden dowel as any cue i could imagine. paul schneider, ginky's first teacher said it best when he used the cliched "it hits like a broom handle". no need to describe further as everyone has their own idea of what a good hit is or isn't....that is mine.

his cues are also unsophisticated in design, since he pays very little attention to it, or maybe he just has no sense of it. i can give you a couple of examples but let me relay just one annecdote. he made a cue once and stein showed it to me. IT HAD A COUPLE OF IRON DEPOSITS IN THE NOSE. when i pointed the flaws out, victor said to me that paul believes in using what nature provides(to paraphrase) because,,,it's natural. my interpretation, and i'm sure many cuemakers will agree because i think they would never allow this to happen, is that paul was either just too lazy to find top quality woods or he just didn't understand the concept of paying attention to details(probably, in all honesty, the latter). i think this is when i dismissed rubino as cuemaker who lacks understanding about the word "quality".

back then paul also had a reputation of disappearing, and the fact is, he has never been a productive cuemaker,,,,thus i believe he does not take the business of cuemaking seriously(which is reason enough not to order a cue). i think his cues move slowly because they're unattractive and his lack of design sense would leave you shaking your head.
 
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I have only seen one of his cues for sale....ever, and it was a very plain level 2 sold by cueaddicts. It was one of the most highly figured pieces of birdseye maple I have ever seen, and I think it went for under $500.
 
bruin70 said:
let me first say that although it might sound like it, i have no issues with rubino. we knew each other in passing because i knew victor stein and met paul when he visited amsterdam in nyc. i have also played with four rubinos and seen about three others in person.
i was familiar with his cues around the early to mid 90's, when they were working on the first blue book.....

i think rubino cues play poorly, and they look equally bad. the best description of the hit, imo, is that it's unsophisticated, ie. it's closest to hitting like a wooden dowel as any cue i could imagine. paul schneider, ginky's first teacher said it best when he used the cliched "it hits like a broom handle". no need to describe further as everyone has their own idea of what a good hit is....that is mine.

his cues are also unsophisticated in design, since he pays very little attention to it, or maybe he just has no sense of it. i can give you a couple of examples but let me relay just one annecdote. he made a cue once and stein showed it to me. IT HAD A COUPLE OF IRON DEPOSITS IN THE NOSE. when i pointed the flaws out, victor said to me that paul believes in using what nature provides(to paraphrase) because,,,it's natural. my interpretation, and i'm sure many cuemakers will agree because i think they would never allow this to happen, is that paul was either just too lazy to find top quality woods or he just didn't understand the concept of paying attention to details(probably, in all honesty, the latter). i think this is when i dismissed rubino as cuemaker who lacks understanding about the word "quality".

back then paul also had a reputation of disappearing, and the fact is, he has never been a productive cuemaker,,,,thus i believe he does not take the business of cuemaking seriously(which is reason enough not to order a cue). i think his cues move slowly because they're unattractive and his lack of design sense would leave you shaking your head.

Great Post! I agree with many of things you said, it's refreshing to see honestly here in AZ.

Jim
 
ive used paul in the past for repairing/reconditioning very old cues.
rambows, paradise, old fancy BBC's, etc.
(the rambow in my avitar is one)

his work has been top notch for me.

BUT, ive never bought one of his cues he's made start to finish.


chris G
 
hmmmm....i've heard another cuemaker say something to that effect...."god made the wood, not me".

i can see both sides of this point, but i can tell you that many people/buyers appreciate natural imperfections in wood, whether it be squirrly grain or 'birth marks'. some hate 'em....some like 'em.....it takes all kinds.

for me, i like many of paul's 'minimalist' designs. some of it i don't like, but i can say that about a lot of cuemakers stuff.
 
cueaddicts said:
hm............effect...."god made the wood, not me". i can see both sides of th..some like 'em.....it takes all kinds. is point, but i can tell you that many people/buyers appreciate natural imperfections in wood,,,,,,


for me, i like many of paul's 'minimalist' designs. some of it i don't like, but i can say that about a lot of cuemakers stuff.

i will grudgingly begrudge you that point, sean. :):):) i myself like imperfections in certain arts and crafts because it makes the art "softer",,,,i don't believe it has a place in cuemaking however, unless the cue is of a particular design with a particular need.

but without a doubt, paul has a very "duct-tape" mentality, and this is what bothered me. it is not a characterization in a craft that customers should have to deal with....and maybe too, i felt there was some sort of collusion to wedge rubino cues into the mainstream through the publishing and ensuing notoriety of the blue book, as victor tried very hard to push his cue ideas through paul(funny, because stein actually told me he tried to build a cue and it turned out horribly). what stein didn't foresee was rubino's lack of drive.

sad actually because paul is a nice fellow.
 
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The top cue is a converted titlist and the marbleized rings on the bottom are original old stock from the 50's/60's. The bottom cue was constructed purely of parts he purchased from Palmer. One of the few people who took the Palmer going out of business flyer seriously because as a historian he knew what they had.

He just completed a conversion of an antique butterfly cue that was probably well over 90 years old. I know some AZ'ers have seen it and hit a few shots with it.

As far as cue design, he builds what he likes. You may not like it, it may look primitive or maybe it doesn't look mainstream, but you have to give him some credit because he could easily build period cues from the 60's and do them as good if not better than anyone else. He also builds carom cues and from what I hear, they are worth every penny.

His restorations on the older cues is phenomenal. He does the Palmer / Paradise two tone nylon wraps as good if not better than anyone I know. In fact I don't know anyone else that has tried to even do them.

Paul is a very nice guy and he is very trusted amongst collectors because of his broad range of knowledge of the older cues. A letter of authenticity from him on a Paradise, Palmer, and Balabushka hold as much weight if not more than an equal letter from some of the other "noted" cuemakers.

JV
 
JimBo said:
Great Post! I agree with many of things you said, it's refreshing to see honesty here in AZ.

Jim

I resent that Jim! What about me??? I'm usually brutally honest to the point of being insulting! :D
 
pr ?

I'm guessing that the old cue (no wrap) that is marked on the buttcap pr (lower case letters) is not a Paul Rubino. Any idea who made this phenolic jointed cue in the early to mid 80s ? It belongs to my wife now.
Doug
 
cueaddicts said:
i can see both sides of this point, but i can tell you that many people/buyers appreciate natural imperfections in wood, whether it be squirrly grain or 'birth marks'. some hate 'em....some like 'em.....it takes all kinds.

As a builder, it can very hard sometimes when working with natural material.
More than once.....I have gotten down to the final passes on a butt that has MANY hours involved and a mineral spot that was not present pops out.
What you going to do.........now some would say "I'd cut the blank up and it would never be seen" and this could be case for a cue that doesn't have that much time in it.......or a shaft which is a little harder to swallow.
But the blank is still a quality constructed piece...just has a blem spot (I seen some beautiful women with a mole on their face!).
Sucks....but all builders deal with it. We try to select the best pieces for the job but sometimes get out smarted by ole mother nature.
Some of my thoughts on wood and mother nature..............
 
BarenbruggeCues said:
As a builder, it can very hard sometimes when working with natural material.
More than once.....I have gotten down to the final passes on a butt that has MANY hours involved and a mineral spot that was not present pops out.
What you going to do.........now some would say "I'd cut the blank up and it would never be seen" and this could be case for a cue that doesn't have that much time in it.......or a shaft which is a little harder to swallow.
But the blank is still a quality constructed piece...just has a blem spot (I seen some beautiful women with a mole on their face!).
Sucks....but all builders deal with it. We try to select the best pieces for the job but sometimes get out smarted by ole mother nature.
Some of my thoughts on wood and mother nature..............

Cindy Crawford has a mole. IMO, there is nothing wrong with a blem spot like you describe. Even a suger/mineral line on a shaft unless it's to the degree of being distracting. I've known cuemakers to scrap a fancy as hell butt one for less, though....
 
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I personally like that old Paradise look an he can flat do it. I counted 15 rings between the wrap an butt cap on one of the pics from ClassicCues.
You like what you like an I'm a big sucker for all that old 60's an early 70cue designs. I had a Rich once upon a time that I would be more than happy to pay 5 times what I sold it for and I got a fair price. ClassicCues
thanks for the good pics of some beautiful cues.
Pinocchio
 
My Rubino

I've had the cue since 1998. Not everyone likes the looks, but I have yet to find anyone who did not like how the cue played.
 

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TyrLeon, do you have any full length photo of the cue? It's a bit hard to visualize the whole thing. I like the butt sleeve work.
 
Thank you for posting it .... the design is definitely not run of the mill :D

Interesting cue. I'd love your feedback on cork wrap (durability, quality and etc).
 
I had the cue refinished and rewrapped by Paul Drexler (PFD cues). I went with the cork for a few reasons. One being that I have not seen alot of them. The other reason is that I have eczema on my hands. My skin condition helped to destroy lizard and leather wraps I had on this cue and others. I'm not really a big fan of linen, I like cortland, but it is too expensive. The cork has been fantastic. The material is about 3 inches wide and goes on in a spiral wrap (like a candycane). Thus making the wrap seamless (it can be found if you really take 5-10 minutes to look for it). The cork does seem to get dirty easily, but can be cleaned with mild soap and warm water. Mr. Drexler informed me that he uses a waterproof epoxy to put the wrap on, making cleaning with watyer less of an issue. All in all I'm very happy with it. I hope this answers your questions.
 
As far as the cue design is concerned I really don't know what Paul had in mind. I have been told that the forearm is a Palmer model 19 3rd catalog. The mop inlays in the joint are something you don't see everydy. The cue originally had a buttcap to match the color of rest of the linen phenolic in the cue. I foolishly banged it on the ground and cracked it. It also originally had a white w/ brown spec linen wrap.
 
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