Post your 10 consecutive practice run scores...

I Was A Bad Boy !!!!!

Well, i went to the pool hall this weekend with my wife cause she wanted to play. So i didnt get to play any straight pool.

We played Nine Ball, and let me tell you i played like a monster!

After playing nothing but straight pool for the last 6 Months, i can see that it has worked wonders on my over-all game of pool.

This doesnt mean that i am converting or anything, i am going back to 14.1 land this week. I Just said this so all can see that staright pool is the godfather of all pool games !

I Will post my inning scores after i play this week.

Steve
 
Finally got a chance to try this last night, I realized coming back here that I didn't record reason for missing. most were missing medium to difficult shot due to position being off.

10
9
12
6
14
15
7
3
12
14


ghost121 said:
Please help me out here. I am a beginner who started playing about six weeks ago. I try to practice twice a week, but it is always by myself. What I would like is some idea about where my practice sessions fit in with more experienced players. So here is the deal:

You get ten consecutive runs and log how many balls you make each time and also the reason why the run ended. No warm ups. The first run you log is the first run of the session, the tenth is the last. When you miss, rack them with your choice of break ball.

Here is what happened to me today, it's pretty typical of where I am right now, altho I feel I lost concentration towards the end:

11 lost position, missed tough shot
26 lost position, no shot
3 missed medium difficulty shot
10 missed tough shot
13 missed tough shot
5 made ball but scratched
6 missed easy shot
1 left with tough shot after breaking, missed it
8 made ball but scratched
11 lost position, no shot

Average of 9.4 balls (I think that's bad)

Come on guys, give me some feedback here, it's lonely playing on my own without a clue as to how I am progressing. Besides, this is a fun way to introduce some competition into your practice sessions. A bit like playing the ghost in 9ball or whatever.
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unicorncomputer said:
Finally got a chance to try this last night, I realized coming back here that I didn't record reason for missing. most were missing medium to difficult shot due to position being off.

10
9
12
6
14
15
7
3
12
14
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Average 10.2 for Steve! not bad Stevie.
 
Krisz and unicorncomputer, thanks for trying out the drill. I think you both did great. It's harder than it would seem, right?

I will have another try this weekend, altho I won't have gotten any better in a week. Would be happy with a similar average. I actually expect my average to be worse, because the 26 in my first try is my current high run.

Steven
 
Thank you,
I like this drill idea. It is something I do regularly, but have never kept track of how I do to have a comparison. I am putting a notebook downstairs with me now to keep on hand and record some things like this.

I plan on recording this at least once a week if I can get the time on the table.
 
Playing pool for only 6 weeks and play twice a week by yourself and u ave around 9 - pehaps u have played some snooker / black ball.
 
maldito said:
Playing pool for only 6 weeks and play twice a week by yourself and u ave around 9 - pehaps u have played some snooker / black ball.
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maldito

Played snooker before here in the uk. Gave up and didn't play for five or six years. When I started again this February I decided to make the switch to pool. Glad I did. I particularly love straight pool, it's history and purity.

Knowing how to play snooker certainly helps with potting, but the weight of the balls, different cloth speed and rebound characteristics of the rails are completely different in pool. My 14.1 positional play is lousy. I can play screw and run through and stun shots all day, but the second I have to use a rail for position I am useless. I also have no stroke left, it's embarrassingly bad. When I get that back how it should be I will be on my way to getting somewhere.

Good luck to everyone who tries the drill. I found it tough, but having nowhere to hide from your true standard under pressure can only make you a better player. I just wish I had some of you guys to play against so I could learn faster and have some like minded company.

Steven
 
Equal offense

There was a game invented in the mid 70's that is similar to your drill. It is called Equal Offense and is an easy way to keep track of your progress with straight pool. You rack the 15 balls and break them hard. Set up the cue ball behind head line and start shooting - each ball counts a point. Just as in straight pool you'll leave the last ball on the table for your break shot to continue the run. The original rules had a maximum run of 20 - that was considered a perfect frame - so maximum score for 10 frames would be 200. But I like the idea of running balls till you miss and play the 10 frames that way. My best score was 211 which included a 56 ball run.
 
cuestick55 said:
There was a game invented in the mid 70's that is similar to your drill. It is called Equal Offense and is an easy way to keep track of your progress with straight pool. You rack the 15 balls and break them hard. Set up the cue ball behind head line and start shooting - each ball counts a point. Just as in straight pool you'll leave the last ball on the table for your break shot to continue the run. The original rules had a maximum run of 20 - that was considered a perfect frame - so maximum score for 10 frames would be 200. But I like the idea of running balls till you miss and play the 10 frames that way. My best score was 211 which included a 56 ball run.
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Cuestick55. I know this sounds like a dumb question, but do you play every shot ball in hand from behind the head line? Or is the only difference the initial break in rack 1 and starting again at 20?

I sometimes practice my long shots after breaking, every subsequent shot ball in hand from behind the head rail, but I don't count them. If I can get the cueball back behind the head rail, okay, if not, I just pick it up, so it's more of a long potting exercise.

Playing on my own means I have to think stuff up or I get stale, lose concentration and end up practicing sloppy form.
 
Equal offense

Only the first shot is from behind the head string. Everything else is played as normal straight pool. The only real difference between equal offense and your drill is the break. In equal offense you bust up the 15 racked balls to start your frame instead of setting up a break shot. Your way might be better because it gives you more practice with break shots.
 
Did 2 more sets last night.

Set 1

10
8 - hard back cut
5 - medium shot
8 - stuck to balls in cluster
14 - missed tough break shot
5 - missed med shot while going for pos
5 - missed easy shot - took for granted
12
6
5


Set 2

6 - medium shot
25 - scratched - stroked it too well
8 - out of pos, tough shot
11 - thin cut
12
10 - didn't look close enough
11
6
1 - got stuck in rack
9 - medium

I like this, I think I am going to start a spreadsheet to keep track of progress.
 
I haven't seen any zeros posted. Doesn't anyone ever miss the break shot? But never? Ahh, hardly ever?

Dave Nelson
 
Dave Nelson said:
I haven't seen any zeros posted. Doesn't anyone ever miss the break shot? But never? Ahh, hardly ever?

Dave Nelson
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Dave

I used to miss lots of break shots until I realized I was playing them way too hard. I backed off the pace and things have been more consistent. I don't have much problem finding and making secondary break shots during the rack, so this is definitely the way to go for me.
 
First Attempt

Hi all.

Just decided to start playing straight pool again and noticed this post when visiting 14.1 Pool for some pointers. So, I decided to give this a try.

I've been playing nothing but 9-ball for the past 10 years, so I'm really rusty at straight pool. I'm definitely hitting the balls too hard and moving the cue ball around a lot more than I should. Plus, I never really got into straight pool -- my high run is only 52, and that was 12 years ago. So I need to learn more about the finer points of the game.

Anyway, here are my first 10 scores played on my 9-foot Diamond Pro with 4-1/2 inch pockets (they're pretty much the first racks I've played since deciding to start back with straight pool):

8 - Missed an easy shot
6 - Scratched while trying to break up a small cluster
0 - Scratched after making an extremely thin cut on the first shot (and only shot) after the break
12 - Missed an easy shot
15 - Straight in on the break ball
8 - Bad position and missed hard shot
8 - Missed easy shot
13 - Missed tough key ball
14 - Missed GREAT break ball
15 - Missed rack on side pocket break shot

Total: 99 (9.9 balls per inning)

Two things jump out at me after doing this. The first is I missed 3 easy shots that I would never have missed playing 9-ball. Second, I was never able to get into a second rack, although I came darn close on the last two (and should have).

I dug out my old Accu-Stats tapes:

Grady Mathews: Key Balls and Break Shots
Jim Rempe: How to Run a Rack in Straight Pool and How to Run 100 Balls

I also purchased the Schmidt and Holmann player review DVDs from Accu-Stats.

Is there any other instructional material (preferably with straight-pool specific drills) that anyone can recommend? If so, I would be most appreciative.
 
mr 400 and Dany's dvd of big runs. You can watch there run 100 times, and you will aways find something that you didnt see before. The review there match and is the best instructional for 14-1 you can find.

In equal offense, I used to do avg of 13balls at home and 8 under preasure, but the break is alot easyer in equal offence.

Ill post my score tonight. Im hoping to get an average of 10balls. and i am SURE i will miss at least one breakshot..
 
I haven't played 14.1 for a bit now and the scores show.

15
4
3
1
14
14
11
16
29
4

total: 111

I couldn't get shape on the damn break ball and got stuck with a couple slug racks... I might try this until I hit 200.
 
I've tried this a couple times now and it's been really interesting. I've been playing mostly 9-ball lately and it shows in the inconsistent scores here.

1st session

0
0
0
0 (yes, I missed the same break shot 4 times in a row.)
81 (I slow rolled a ball that didn't reach the pocket to end the run - brutal)
28 (couldn't get on a break ball)
38 missed
12 no shot
56 scratched on break shot
21 missed

2nd Session

26 missed
28 missed break
21 no shot
43 no shot
6 no shot
12 missed
58 missed
32 no shot
16 missed
31 scratched

I had fun with this. Note that all of the above innings started with roughly the same break shot. I'm going to try different ones and see if there is an advantage to starting with any particular break shot.
 
ghost121 said:
Please help me out here. I am a beginner who started playing about six weeks ago. I try to practice twice a week, but it is always by myself. What I would like is some idea about where my practice sessions fit in with more experienced players. So here is the deal:

You get ten consecutive runs and log how many balls you make each time and also the reason why the run ended. No warm ups. The first run you log is the first run of the session, the tenth is the last. When you miss, rack them with your choice of break ball.

Here is what happened to me today, it's pretty typical of where I am right now, altho I feel I lost concentration towards the end:

11 lost position, missed tough shot
26 lost position, no shot
3 missed medium difficulty shot
10 missed tough shot
13 missed tough shot
5 made ball but scratched
6 missed easy shot
1 left with tough shot after breaking, missed it
8 made ball but scratched
11 lost position, no shot

Average of 9.4 balls (I think that's bad)

Come on guys, give me some feedback here, it's lonely playing on my own without a clue as to how I am progressing. Besides, this is a fun way to introduce some competition into your practice sessions. A bit like playing the ghost in 9ball or whatever.
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don't sweat the low average man. just keep practicing and it'll get higher
 
well so many to list.these are the ones i remember.

227
212
209
201
191
188
more than 100 times over 100 balls

Bobby Chamberlain
(wrldpro)
 
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