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That sounds a little too crazy to play in those tournament... im not that good or is it for amateurs? When you say championship, sounds like something major. Or you must be joking. You making me sound excited lol.

But anyways, I dont have the balls for that haha I will probably miss toooooo much I would forfeit in the middle of it when my player is up like 7-0.

I played today and since the table was slow, I missed alot and lost some money. Played up to 25 points and the score was 13-25(L), 21-25(L), 19-25(L), 25-17(won). We were both average. We couldnt figure out some shots. My best run was 4 and some 2's. If they had some amateur tournament maybe I would play but I cant play someone that can make 3 or more everytime that person gets up.

Imma go play some tomorrow with simonis cloth.
 
VietSoClassic said:
That sounds a little too crazy to play in those tournament... im not that good or is it for amateurs? When you say championship, sounds like something major. Or you must be joking. You making me sound excited lol.

But anyways, I dont have the balls for that haha I will probably miss toooooo much I would forfeit in the middle of it when my player is up like 7-0.

I played today and since the table was slow, I missed alot and lost some money. Played up to 25 points and the score was 13-25(L), 21-25(L), 19-25(L), 25-17(won). We were both average. We couldnt figure out some shots. My best run was 4 and some 2's. If they had some amateur tournament maybe I would play but I cant play someone that can make 3 or more everytime that person gets up.

Imma go play some tomorrow with simonis cloth.
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I think what 3kushn was trying to say is that and average of 2.75 is SUPER championship level type of play. if you say you are not that good...then maybe you are figuring your average out wrong.. to put things into perspective... there are only a handful of people in the United States that are capable of averageing even a 1.0... to figure out your average for a particular game you must count all your innings for that game.... Divide the total number of points by the number of innings.. that is your average for that game.. ex.. if you play a 20 point game in 20 innings..you are only averaging a 1.0.. in order to average a 2.75 in a 20 point game...you have to make about 7 points per inning.. that would be a wonderous feat :)
 
VietSoClassic said:
... If they had some amateur tournament maybe I would play but I cant play someone that can make 3 or more everytime that person gets up ...
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I assume you are referring to 3-cushion. There is no one in the world who plays that well, so I think you're safe. The pro players -- the best in the world -- usually average between 1.2 and 2.0 for a whole tournament.

If you're referring to straight rail, I don't think there are any professional tournaments, so you're safe there as well.
 
I really don't know anything about the inning. When I say 2.75... it means I can RUN 2.75 consecutively, I get on the table I can make 2.75 points.

Making it short... I can hit 2 points consecutively without a problem in 3-cushion. When I play 3-cushion we play up to 25 points. Whoever reaches 25 wins and I can RUN 2 points easily. Hope you understand that part.

The average thing... I am still confused but yea. If you say 20 inning then I would be making 2-3 on each inning. I think that's what yall want to know then.
 
VietSoClassic said:
The average thing... I am still confused but yea. If you say 20 inning then I would be making 2-3 on each inning. I think that's what yall want to know then.
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wow... either you are a little bit confused... or what 3kushn said should be taken seriously.. getting up to the table and making 2 EVERY time at 3 cushion is phenominal.. seriously if what you say is true...you should play pro tournaments
 
seven said:
wow... either you are a little bit confused... or what 3kushn said should be taken seriously.. getting up to the table and making 2 EVERY time at 3 cushion is phenominal.. seriously if what you say is true...you should play pro tournaments
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No, I think it's clear now that he meant that in a game to 20 or 25 points he usually will have at least one run of 2 and sometimes a run of three.

How to calculate average: Keep track of each turn you have at the table. Write down the number of points scored in the turn, such as 1-0-0-3-0-0-0-1-2-0 etc. Add up the total score (7 for the above list). Divide that by the total number of innings ("inning" means turn at the table). For the above, there are 10 innings, so your average would be 7 points in 10 innings or 0.700.
 
if thats the case, every inning I make 2-3 points... I went to go play today with 10 innings.

3-1-2-3-2-2-3-3-1-2=20/10=2.0
 
VietSoClassic said:
if thats the case, every inning I make 2-3 points... I went to go play today with 10 innings.

3-1-2-3-2-2-3-3-1-2=20/10=2.0
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If you are playing 3-cushion billiards, you should enter some tournaments. You would be the favorite in any tournament you entered if you could maintain that average. Go to the site http://www.kozoom.com to see some results. In the last world 3-cushion championship, the winner's average was only 1.8. In his worst game, it took him 46 turns at the table to score a total of 63 points. (They play in 15-point sets -- best of 5 sets.)
 
Bob Jewett said:
No, I think it's clear now that he meant that in a game to 20 or 25 points he usually will have at least one run of 2 and sometimes a run of three.
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no...I think i had it right the first time :D

And I agree on Bobs last post...with averages like that, you definetly should play in tournaments.
 
How does 3-cushion billiard play... set wise?

I dont see how I could be the favorite because I see people can run 5-9 points in one inning. Maybe I would compete in small tournaments at local pools but not the major ones.

Where's a place I can see the rules of billiard?
 
VietSoClassic said:
... Where's a place I can see the rules of billiard?
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The rules are in various places including the UMB website:
http://www.umb.org/

But for this purpose, the rules of 3-cushion are simple: The game is played on a table that has a playing surface of 56x112 inches (called 5x10 feet). There are no pockets on the table. Each player has a cue ball (one is white and the other is white with black spots or yellow) and there is a neutral red ball. On each shot, the shooter must make his cue ball hit both the other balls (called object balls) with the restriction that his cue ball must contact cushions at least three times before hitting the second object ball.
 
VietSoClassic said:
if thats the case, every inning I make 2-3 points... I went to go play today with 10 innings.

3-1-2-3-2-2-3-3-1-2=20/10=2.0
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kinda sounds to me like someone forgot to tell you that your allowed to miss once in a while.......lol

you are keeping track of your poodles right?
 
VietSoClassic said:
How does 3-cushion billiard play... set wise?

I dont see how I could be the favorite because I see people can run 5-9 points in one inning. Maybe I would compete in small tournaments at local pools but not the major ones.

Where's a place I can see the rules of billiard?
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Glad to see you're having fun playing 3-cushion. It's a great game, played at any level.

I noticed that you are probably not familiar with how averages are kept in the 3-cushion world. If you really averaged 2.0 in 3-cushion, then you would be the best player in the world (that ever lived, perhaps). I would like to sponsor you to play in the Sang Lee tournament next month (Aug 13-19) against all of the world-beaters.

A ~2.000 average player's skill level usually posts high runs in the high 20's or perhaps even 30's and will make many, many runs of 10 or more. To average 2.0 in one short game is great, but it does not represent a player's true skill level overall. You have to look at many innings and consider the environment (level of the opponents or handicapping situation) too. Try measuring 100 innings (for starters) to give yourself a fairly good picture of your level. I know it's tempting, but beware of "closing one eye" about those "goose-egg" innings.... ;) Practice the missed shots until you make them!

-Ira
 
iralee said:
Glad to see you're having fun playing 3-cushion. It's a great game, played at any level.

I noticed that you are probably not familiar with how averages are kept in the 3-cushion world. If you really averaged 2.0 in 3-cushion, then you would be the best player in the world (that ever lived, perhaps). I would like to sponsor you to play in the Sang Lee tournament next month (Aug 13-19) against all of the world-beaters.

A ~2.000 average player's skill level usually posts high runs in the high 20's or perhaps even 30's and will make many, many runs of 10 or more. To average 2.0 in one short game is great, but it does not represent a player's true skill level overall. You have to look at many innings and consider the environment (level of the opponents or handicapping situation) too. Try measuring 100 innings (for starters) to give yourself a fairly good picture of your level. I know it's tempting, but beware of "closing one eye" about those "goose-egg" innings.... ;) Practice the missed shots until you make them!

-Ira
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In that case... no im not a 2.0 avg. I could never ever run 10 or more. But I can run 2-3 consecutively when I get on the table. I think you could understand that.

I went to go play and wrote my game down...(my cue ball hit the red ball, then 3 rails, hit the yellow ball)
Race to 25 - I won the lag (everytime my opponent miss the inning ends right)
I made/ran 4 points from start and missed
Opponent ran 2 and missed
I made/ran 3 points and missed
Opp. ran 1 and missed
I ran 2 and missed
Opp. missed
I ran 5 and missed
Opp. ran 3 and missed
I ran 2 and missed
Opp. ran 1 and missed
I ran 2 and missed
Opp. missed
I ran 1 and missed
Opp. ran 4 and missed
I ran 3 and missed
Opp. ran 2 and missed
I missed!!!
Opp. ran 4 and missed
I ran 1 and missed
Opp. ran 1 and missed
I ran 2 and won :)

Score 25 - 18

inning 1- 4-2
inning 2- 3-1
inning 3- 2-0
inning 4- 5-3
inning 5- 2-1
inning 6- 2-0
inning 7- 1-4
inning 8- 3-2
inning 9- 0-4
inning 10- 1-1
inning 11 - 2-0
 
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VietSoClassic said:
In that case... no im not a 2.0 avg. I could never ever run 10 or more. But I can run 2-3 consecutively when I get on the table. I think you could understand that.

I went to go play and wrote my game down...(my cue ball hit the red ball, then 3 rails, hit the yellow ball)
Race to 25 - I won the lag (everytime my opponent miss the inning ends right)
I made/ran 4 points from start and missed
Opponent ran 2 and missed
I made/ran 3 points and missed
Opp. ran 1 and missed
I ran 2 and missed
Opp. missed
I ran 5 and missed
Opp. ran 3 and missed
I ran 2 and missed
Opp. ran 1 and missed
I ran 2 and missed
Opp. missed
I ran 1 and missed
Opp. ran 4 and missed
I ran 3 and missed
Opp. ran 2 and missed
I missed!!!
Opp. ran 4 and missed
I ran 1 and missed
Opp. ran 1 and missed
I ran 2 and won :)

Score 25 - 18

inning 1- 4-2
inning 2- 3-1
inning 3- 2-0
inning 4- 5-3
inning 5- 2-1
inning 6- 2-0
inning 7- 1-4
inning 8- 3-2
inning 9- 0-4
inning 10- 1-1
inning 11 - 2-0
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Based on the information contained in your post, you ARE playing as a 2.0 avg player. 25 points in 11 innings is an average of 2.273 (25 divided by 11). You also posted another game earlier in which you averaged 2.0 again. Evidently, you have the capability of competing against world class players.

Even if your highlighted games are rare flukes, you should just keep on practicing - you apparently have some level of talent in order to play like this (even once or twice a year). I know a lot of good players that play every day never post those kinds of numbers.

It's odd that you don't think you could ever run ten points - after experiencing this level of consistency even for brief periods. Based on billiard statistics, a run of 10 should come quite easily.

If not, I suspect that you have accidentally forgotten to record (a few) misses in between those strings of runs. An easy way to keep your average accurately is to keep a hand operated click-counter in your pocket. Every time you miss a shot, click the counter. If your billiard room uses beads on strings, you can record the score on one side and count your misses on the opposite side of the string. At the end of the game, divide the number of points you scored in the game by the number on the counter.... don't "forget" to record whenever you miss.

If you are still finding that these averages occur regularly for you... then you should contact me (immediately!) and I will sponsor you to play in the 2007 Sang Lee Int'l Open in NY on Aug 13-19. I'll put you in the tournament as Zorro, the masked marvel worldbeater! ;)

-Ira
 
I can't run ten... my highest in that game was 5 runs.

Some other nights before that I did a 16 inning to get to 25pts. so that a 1.5avg.

How many innings can a pro player do race to 25pts?
 
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VietSoClassic said:
I can't run ten... my highest in that game was 5 runs.

Some other nights before that I did a 16 inning to get to 25pts. so that a 1.5avg.

How many innings can a pro player do race to 25pts?
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Most of the top players would typically take between 10 and 20 innings to get to 25 points. Those are the very top players. Rarely, they might get 25 points in 4 or 5 innings, but this is not at all usual.

In the recent WorldCup event, Torbjorn Blomdahl got a total of 239 points in 111 turns at the table for an average of 2.153. This is considered to be a very, very good average, even for Blomdahl. Blomdahl is considered by many to be the best 3-cushion player to have ever played the game.
 
I need to find me a local tournament to play in and see how I do. Is there a time limit on every shot or you can think all you want?

I guess during this week I will do some practice runs?
What runs should I do?

50 Innings or 100 Innings or Race to 50 or 100?

The Sang Lee Tournament sounds awesome but I know for sure I will not last and I will miss a bunch. Everytime I see someone run 7-8 points in one inning I will give up because I know I can't. It also seems like I have to dress up for that occasion too. Thanks for the compliments though. I am still going to practice to get a whole lot better thats for sure. Maybe one day I get a video of me practicing and show you all. Technically I play 9-Ball the most but learning 3-cushion helps me breaks balls up when needed so thats why I wanted to learn 3-cushion.

Viet Do.
 
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