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I definitely think there are definitely psychological reasons to prefer one bridge over another. It's Fran's psyche... she can have that preference. I am the same way. I know I can draw with an open bridge, but my closed bridge on a harder draw shot is like an emotional security blanket. Just my two cents.
 

My own feeling is that while a closed bridge is not needed if the back hand is perfect, it can help to mitigate stroke arm problems such as gripping tightly during the forward stroke causing the tip to rise.
Do you mean causing the shaft to rise out of the V before contact?

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I definitely think there are definitely psychological reasons to prefer one bridge over another. It's Fran's psyche... she can have that preference. I am the same way. I know I can draw with an open bridge, but my closed bridge on a harder draw shot is like an emotional security blanket. Just my two cents.
Given the importance of the mental aspect of playing pool, that's an entirely legitimate reason to use a closed bridge. I say use whichever works best for you for whatever reason - there's probably no overriding benefit to knowing the "science" of this.

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A snug closed bridge allows the preferred grip - OK.

My closed bridge is so loose it's really just an open bridge with a decorative finger thrown over it (and only used for compactness).
My closed bridge has no daylight around the stick. Just like Mosconi taught me.
 
I tried the Mosconi loop right out of his pamphlet lol ok book. It has that professional mystique to it - like shooting behind the back I suppose. When I do it there's too much friction; same with the fist bridge. If skin starts dragging, I can't deal with the extra backhand required. IOW shot speed now becomes a matter of overcoming the bridge.
 
My closed bridge has no daylight around the stick. Just like Mosconi taught me.
I copied LoreeJon's loop in my closed bridge because it's loose and relaxed but the way the loop leans, it still secures the cue stick, which for me is the best of both worlds.
 
I copied LoreeJon's loop in my closed bridge because it's loose and relaxed but the way the loop leans, it still secures the cue stick, which for me is the best of both worlds.
I recall she started to market a hand held bridging aid that was subsequently outlawed by some pigheaded sanctioning board. (sry BJ) People with small hands/arthritic hands/no hands need such tools already.
 
There's no reason except psychological to prefer a closed bridge for any kind of shot.

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Except as described above by several of us, those (lower level, if you like) players who wiggle and/or use aggressive strokes find the closed bridge restricts unneeded cue movement.

Your post intrigues me in two ways:

1) It's absolutist declaration (all billiards players obey x for every shot possible shot, including power draw, masse, etc.)

2) Your impressive ability to read the minds of all players in the world and assess their psychology
 
There's no reason except psychological to prefer a closed bridge for any kind of shot.
Except as described above by several of us, those (lower level, if you like) players who wiggle and/or use aggressive strokes find the closed bridge restricts unneeded cue movement.
The reason to restrict most unneeded cue movement (movement after tip/ball contact) is psychological - it's distracting, but doesn't affect the shot itself. Hiding stroke errors that move the cue before contact is another reason, I guess...

Your post intrigues me in two ways:

1) It's absolutist declaration (all billiards players obey x for every shot possible shot, including power draw, masse, etc.)

2) Your impressive ability to read the minds of all players in the world and assess their psychology
Yours, on the other hand, is simply incorrect. I didn't say anything about what "all billiards players" do or think; only about the physical realities of open & closed bridges.

pj
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I recall she started to market a hand held bridging aid that was subsequently outlawed by some pigheaded sanctioning board. (sry BJ) People with small hands/arthritic hands/no hands need such tools already.
I don't know anything about a hand-held bridge aid and you haven't provided enough information for anyone to agree with you or not as to the ruling of the legality of it.
 
Patrick, remember, what we're all saying here now regarding closed bridges vs. V-bridges is all opinion-based, and that includes you. There is no scientific evidence that proves one way or the other, that a closed bridge doesn't have physical benefits. Just because you believe you can accomplish the same things with both, doesn't make it absolute fact. What you are presenting now is your hypothesis without any controlled experiment results as proof.
 
There is no scientific evidence that proves one way or the other, that a closed bridge doesn't have physical benefits.
Slomo videos of tip/ball collisions show that the shaft/tip reacts identically with an open or closed bridge until after the cue ball is gone.

There’s also my own decades of experience using open bridges on all shots without drawbacks.

I’d be interested to hear about any actual evidence otherwise.

pj
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I don't know anything about a hand-held bridge aid and you haven't provided enough information for anyone to agree with you or not as to the ruling of the legality of it.
It was a small, handheld, rectangular piece of plastic that somehow worked with a standard bridge. It was advertised in Billiards Digest many years ago. You'll have to ask her about it. I don't even remember the name of it. Anyway the point was there should be bridging aids for more elevation, shooting from the rail, even a post for "freehand" jumps and Masses.
 
Slomo videos of tip/ball collisions show that the shaft/tip reacts identically with an open or closed bridge until after the cue ball is gone.

There’s also my own decades of experience using open bridges on all shots without drawbacks.

I’d be interested to hear about any actual evidence otherwise.

pj
chgo
Wait... I thought you were a scientist. You aren't? You're unfamiliar with experiments in a controlled environment? At this point it's still your opinion.
 
The snooker players have a special technique for keeping the cue on the V for power shots. I've never seen it in instructionals.
I was dumbfounded the first time I noticed Neil and Judd doing this -- pulling up slightly with the shooting hand, flexing the cue against the chest and down onto the bridge hand. The stroke doesn't just look like they hit it hard -- it looks spring-loaded, unleashed, all the while maintaining the accurate strike on the cue ball!

Mind boggling and scary good!
 
I was dumbfounded the first time I noticed Neil and Judd doing this -- pulling up slightly with the shooting hand, flexing the cue against the chest and down onto the bridge hand. The stroke doesn't just look like they hit it hard -- it looks spring-loaded, unleashed, all the while maintaining the accurate strike on the cue ball!

Mind boggling and scary good!
For some of them the flex is against the chin, or so it seems.
 
I was dumbfounded the first time I noticed Neil and Judd doing this -- pulling up slightly with the shooting hand, flexing the cue against the chest and down onto the bridge hand. The stroke doesn't just look like they hit it hard -- it looks spring-loaded, unleashed, all the while maintaining the accurate strike on the cue ball!

Mind boggling and scary good!
The pendulum stroke will arc the tip downward. The ridiculous stick taper compensates for this. I think the tiny tip might might also help in pointing the impact where it is most efficient.
 
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