Pre & Post Shot routine

Is your Pre & Post Shot routine automatic, or do you use a count down system.

What I mean by a count down system is. Do you have a series of steps you go through, than follow by the numbers each time you make and shot, & post Cue Ball hit that you follow that has made you a better pool player.
 
I'm not sure what you mean by steps. But I do get down on the shot the same each time. I step into the shot first and then I simply place my bridge hand and bend down. I also keep my eyes locked on the object ball as I am doing this until my stance is completely set. This way I ensure that I am staying in line with the shot.

Other things I try to do is to not plan the table while behind the cue ball. Sometimes I plan everything out and get down on the shot not realizing that I didn't quite give the shot the attention it needed. If I walk around and check the sight lines then I still have to walk over to the cue ball and aim.

That is not to say that I do this every shot. Usually it is quite obvious what I have to do.

Part of my post shot routine is making the next ball! :D

hope this helps.
 
I just do "what feels/looks right", which is probably why I will never be of shortstop+ caliber... that, and I just simply don't have the time... :p
 
Cocobolo Nut said:
Is your Pre & Post Shot routine automatic, or do you use a count down system.

What I mean by a count down system is. Do you have a series of steps you go through, than follow by the numbers each time you make and shot, & post Cue Ball hit that you follow that has made you a better pool player.

I try to do the same pre-shot rountine, but I don't do it "by the numbers" and I think to do so distracts from the job at hand. Post shot I just try to stay down for a reasonable length of time.
 
Don't know much about my pre-shot routine but my post-shot routine usually involves walking to my chair and sitting down...
 
catscradle said:
I try to do the same pre-shot rountine, but I don't do it "by the numbers" and I think to do so distracts from the job at hand. Post shot I just try to stay down for a reasonable length of time.

I used to have confusions because I was told to perform identical pre-shot routine for every shot, even the number of featherings. However I discovered that sometimes maintaining it during certain shots just don't make me comfortable. Finally I chose to execute every shot base on my own comfortability, but of course not deviating too much from the fundamentals. For post shot, I'll probably just stay down for a couple of seconds. Not too long in case any balls roll back at me.
 
Cocobolo Nut said:
Is your Pre & Post Shot routine automatic, or do you use a count down system.

What I mean by a count down system is. Do you have a series of steps you go through, than follow by the numbers each time you make and shot, & post Cue Ball hit that you follow that has made you a better pool player.

Yes. I now have 39 ingredients in my recipe for a successful pool shot, encompassed within six steps. Every shot deserves The Recipe.;)

Jeff Livingston
 
The hassetsu (shooting steps) of Zen Cueism

Stroll around the table, regarding it as if it was a complex fine art object in a gallery. Don't consider your options from only one perspective.

Fix the cue ball, object ball, and pocket firmly in your mind, as one unified entity.

Relax into your stance, allowing your body to join the CB, OB, and pocket in natural harmony. Allow your self to become One with the feng shui of the table.

Contemplate each part of your body in turn to ensure its correctness. Assume the standing lotus position of kyudo: feet 1.5 shoulder-widths apart, big toes forming a 60-degree angle to each other, left foot pointed at target. Toes uncurled. (Seriously; the tiniest curl of my left smallest toe caused me many a missed shot until I discovered and corrected it.) Weight distributed evenly between feet. Knees flexed or locked, or one of each - but unwavering.

Bridge shoulder relaxed, not tensed. Bridge elbow nearly straight but not tensely locked (specific conditions may dictate a more bent elbow).

Bridge hand firmly anchored on the table or rail, ideally with four fingertips and the heel of the hand.

Bridge fingers cradling the cue, but not clenching it.

Stroking shoulder and elbow still. Forearm hanging loosely, like a pendulum of string, straight down from elbow to knuckles. Particular attention should be given to the wrist, that it be nearly straight, but naturally loose and not tensely locked. The first finger joints should be parallel to the wrist, not bent inward. The second and third finger joints surround and support the cue, but do not clench it. Thumb and pinky finger relax and do not touch the cue.

Practice-stroke evenly and smoothly, relaxing any muscle tension that induces swerve or hesitation into one's stroke. Stroke forward on exhalation of breath, and allow the cue to return backward on inhalation. Contemplate the cue tip's close approach to the cue ball's point of contact. Stroke until the tip's approach is perfect three times in a row. Then become still, and turn your attention from the cue ball to object ball.

Regard the point upon the OB that you will hit. Peer penetratingly at it until the OB becomes as large as a grapefruit.

Glance once along the line connecting the point on the OB that you will hit and the center of the pocket into which the OB will fall.

Now, this is important:

DO *NOT* ADJUST YOUR BODY!

If you performed all of the proper steps up to this point, every bit of your body is in the perfect position to make the shot. Your Spirit has seen to that, finely attuning your body to achieve Unity with the floor, table, cue, and balls. Any crude adjustment that your conscious mind makes will be incorrect, and you will miss.

If you failed to achieve perfect harmony with the table's feng shui, then stand up, take three steps back, and begin all over again.

At least two full seconds before pulling the trigger, fix your gaze upon the OB and keep it there until the cue ball arrives at the point you intended. This is also critical. The ONLY thing in your mind's eye must be that object ball until the CB hits it.

Your final stroke should be exactly like your practice strokes, except that it is permitted to continue freely to its natural follow-through. The forearm and cue glide to a halt; no muscular effort brakes or accelerates follow-through!

Only your forearm should move during the shot. Fingers, toes, shoulders, etc., should remain utterly inert. Only relaxation in natural harmony permits such stillness. Any muscle tension will disrupt the feng shui and cause your chi to flow astray!

Move only after you see the object ball strike a rail or fall into a pocket. Then rise upright and contemplate the result of your hassetsu uncritically.

Every shot made is perfect. It went exactly in accordance with nature, even if it did not go as you intended. Every shot is a marked and true step along the Four-Bank Path to Enlightenment and Correct Thinking. You may follow the Path, learning from the result of each shot, or stray from it by insisting, foolishly, that you are right and results are wrong.

Correct Thinking follows the Path in harmony with the Universe. Incorrect Thinking concludes that the shot went wrong, not the shooter.

"Never let your ego interfere with your success."
 
I saw an accustats tape once that showed a guy that gets down on his knees so his head is right at rail height. He lays his cue down and puts his hands up and waves them like he is summoning the pool gods to show him the shot...(or he is waffting a fart).....:confused:
 
I was taught that Post Shot Routine is just as important as the Pre Shot Routine. The Post Routine is to simply notice where your cue tip ends up.
What I was told is if you don't know where your tip ended you missed the shot no matter if the ob went in or not. This really screwed me up for a long time. But with persistance it corrected my swiping the cue and now my stroke is dramaticaly improved.

I'll have to admit I don't always pay attention but when I do I make shots I can't believe. The training tip worked for me eventually.

I'm told the world class players are only concerned with delivery of the stroke after they've gone through their pre shot routine. Nothing else is one their mind.
 
I was taught that Post Shot Routine is just as important as the Pre Shot Routine. The Post Routine is to simply notice where your cue tip ends up.
What I was told is if you don't know where your tip ended you missed the shot no matter if the ob went in or not. This really screwed me up for a long time. But with persistance it corrected my swiping the cue and now my stroke is dramaticaly improved.

I'll have to admit I don't always pay attention but when I do I make shots I can't believe. The training tip worked for me eventually.

I'm told the world class players are only concerned with delivery of the stroke after they've gone through their pre shot routine. Nothing else is one their mind.
 
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