Predator Air Jump Cue...nothing but net!

TATE

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I got my Predator Air Jump Cue in today from Omega Billiards in Texas. Michael Hoang there is a real pleasure to deal with. The cue was about $127 including free shipping.

The Predator Air is a patented three piece design. It has a phenolic tip with a backing pad and a short phenolic linen ferrule. The similarity to other jump cues stops right there. The ferrule is 13.75mm with a thick tapered shaft. The shaft and center section look to be made from an 1/8th inch thick hollow composite shell, possibly graphite, with a cored wood insert. The back butt is solid wood. I'll explain why that matters in a moment. The front shaft is connected to the center section with a very short radial pin. The back butt section is connected with a standard uni-loc. The finish is a flat black and very nicely done. The cue looks great with the Predator graphics.

The shaft only weighs 2.9 ounces, the center section 2.6 ounces, and the butt 3.5 ounces. Add them up to a total cue of 9 ounces. The shaft is 29 1/4". With the middle section only, the cue is a total of 40 1/4", and with the butt, the full length cue is 47 1/2".

Performance:

I took off the butt and tried to make a standard jump shot with just the first two sections. Nothing doing. The shaft and center section are too light to jump the cue ball with a conventional jump stroke. I was pretty distressed, then I put the heavier wooden butt section on and viola, big air! At full length, this cue is relatively easy to get the ball up and it's length makes it easier to aim than typical short jump cues. It's maybe a little less accurate than shooting a jacked up non-jump shot.

I quickly figured the shaft and middle section together are for dart-style jump shots, and it works very well for that. Together they only weigh 5.5 ounces, just a little more than a conventional shaft, but are plenty long to make the dart stroke. The cue ball pops right up in the air. I don't usually use a dart stroke, but with this cue, I'm going to learn it. It's great for very short jump shots. In case you haven't done a dart stroke, you hold the cue like a masse shot and hit down into the cueball, popping it up in the air.

Basically, the Predator Air is a winner. It's by far the best jump cue I've used. At full length, it's the easiest aiming jump cue I've ever used and it gets the ball up without too much effort - just what I was looking for.

Chris

PS. A leather tip is an option for these cues. There is no way I would recommend a leather tip on a jump cue.

Predator_Air_Full_Cue.jpg


Predator_Air_Tip.jpg


Predator_Air_radial_Pin.jpg


Predator_Air_Joint.jpg
 
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thanks for the review. i should be getting my predator air sometime this week too. can't wait to give it a try!

you said the cue was too light to jump with a pendulum stroke with 2 pieces. i can't see why this would be the case. i have a stealth airtime that is just a tiny bit heavier in the 2 piece config and i can pendulum jump with it no problem. i hardly ever use the dart stroke, it's just not something i practiced much. the stealth has a leather tip (very hard!) and i find that it jumps just fine. it's not quite as easy to get as much lift on the ball as phenolic, but i find that you have a lot more control of the cueball and that i am much more accurate with the leather tip. there's definitely pros and cons of both.
 
too short

you said in the short version the cue is only 39 inches? BCA and many other leagues say a cue MUST be 40 inches!!! Someone might call you on it and get either the cue or even you thrown out of a tourny.
 
TATE said:
I got my Predator Air Jump Cue in today from Omega Billiards in Texas. Michael Hoang there is a real pleasure to deal with. The cue was about $127 including free shipping.

The Predator Air is a patented three piece design. It has a phenolic tip with a backing pad and a short phenolic linen ferrule. The similarity to other jump cues stops right there. The ferrule is 13.75mm with a thick tapered shaft. The shaft and center section look to be made from an 1/8th inch thick hollow composite shell, possibly graphite, with a cored wood insert. The back butt is solid wood. I'll explain why that matters in a moment. The front shaft is connected to the center section with a very short radial pin. The back butt section is connected with a standard uni-loc. The finish is a flat black and very nicely done. The cue looks great with the Predator graphics.

The shaft only weighs 2.9 ounces, the center section 2.6 ounces, and the butt 3.5 ounces. Add them up to a total cue of 9 ounces. The shaft is 29 1/4". With the middle section only, the cue is a total of 39 1/4", and with the butt, the full length cue is 47 1/2".

Performance:

I took off the butt and tried to make a standard jump shot with just the first two sections. Nothing doing. The shaft and center section are too light to jump the cue ball with a conventional jump stroke. I was pretty distressed, then I put the heavier wooden butt section on and viola, big air! At full length, this cue is relatively easy to get the ball up and it's length makes it easier to aim than typical short jump cues. It's maybe a little less accurate than shooting a jacked up non-jump shot.

I quickly figured the shaft and middle section together are for dart-style jump shots, and it works very well for that. Together they only weigh 5.5 ounces, just a little more than a conventional shaft, but are plenty long to make the dart stroke. The cue ball pops right up in the air. I don't usually use a dart stroke, but with this cue, I'm going to learn it. It's great for very short jump shots. In case you haven't done a dart stroke, you hold the cue like a masse shot and hit down into the cueball, popping it up in the air.

Basically, the Predator Air is a winner. It's by far the best jump cue I've used. At full length, it's the easiest aiming jump cue I've ever used and it gets the ball up without too much effort - just what I was looking for.

Chris

PS. A leather tip is an option for these cues. There is no way I would recommend a leather tip on a jump cue.

Predator_Air_Full_Cue.jpg


Predator_Air_Tip.jpg


Predator_Air_radial_Pin.jpg


Predator_Air_Joint.jpg

I also ordered a the Predator Air jump cue from Omega Billiards. Mike is a very nice guy to order from. He even sent me a tracking number. The cue will be here tomorrow. Free shipping...

Glad you like the cue. I'm eager to try it out. Nice pics. While I currently agree with you about the no need for a leather tip, I'm curious how the cue would perform with a very hard leather tip. Has anyone used this cue with a leather tip?
JoeyA
 
McChen said:
thanks for the review. i should be getting my predator air sometime this week too. can't wait to give it a try!

you said the cue was too light to jump with a pendulum stroke with 2 pieces. i can't see why this would be the case. i have a stealth airtime that is just a tiny bit heavier in the 2 piece config and i can pendulum jump with it no problem. i hardly ever use the dart stroke, it's just not something i practiced much. the stealth has a leather tip (very hard!) and i find that it jumps just fine. it's not quite as easy to get as much lift on the ball as phenolic, but i find that you have a lot more control of the cueball and that i am much more accurate with the leather tip. there's definitely pros and cons of both.

Please give us a comparison when the get the Predator Air.
JoeyA
 
McChen said:
thanks for the review. i should be getting my predator air sometime this week too. can't wait to give it a try!

you said the cue was too light to jump with a pendulum stroke with 2 pieces. i can't see why this would be the case. i have a stealth airtime that is just a tiny bit heavier in the 2 piece config and i can pendulum jump with it no problem. i hardly ever use the dart stroke, it's just not something i practiced much. the stealth has a leather tip (very hard!) and i find that it jumps just fine. it's not quite as easy to get as much lift on the ball as phenolic, but i find that you have a lot more control of the cueball and that i am much more accurate with the leather tip. there's definitely pros and cons of both.

I had pretty good control with the phenolic tip. For the life of me, with this cue there was no way I could get the ball up in short version with a conventional stroke. Maybe it's me, but I think others should post their results. With the dart stroke, it was no problem tio pop the ball up.

I had no problem controlling the shot with the phenolic tip. The reason why I don't recommend leather is because I find I can make a much easier stroke with the phenolic (in long cue form) and get plenty of lift, allowing me to focus on my aim. I set up some spot shots from the kitchen and shot them in - that's how accurate the longer cue can be.

Chris
 
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cbi1000 said:
you said in the short version the cue is only 39 inches? BCA and many other leagues say a cue MUST be 40 inches!!! Someone might call you on it and get either the cue or even you thrown out of a tourny.

Sorry, I made a mistake - it's 29 1/4 and 11 = 40 1/4 in short form.

Chris
 
cbi1000 said:
you said in the short version the cue is only 39 inches? BCA and many other leagues say a cue MUST be 40 inches!!! Someone might call you on it and get either the cue or even you thrown out of a tourny.


I would find it shocking that the short version of the cue was anything less than 40". I should get mine tomorrow (according to UPS) and I'll measure it and post the results sometime tomorrow evening if this is still a mystery here.

This is the link to Predator.

http://www.predatorcues.com/predator_cues_airJump.html


There's just absolutely no way this is possible. It would be the biggest boondoggle since the IPT.


Edit - lol - Timing is everything here!
 
Da Poet said:
I would find it shocking that the short version of the cue was anything less than 40". I should get mine tomorrow (according to UPS) and I'll measure it and post the results sometime tomorrow evening if this is still a mystery here.

This is the link to Predator.

http://www.predatorcues.com/predator_cues_airJump.html


There's just absolutely no way this is possible. It would be the biggest boondoggle since the IPT.

Sorry, my mistake - it's 40 1/4".

Chris
 
You can break with any cue but...

itgroupy said:
Can you break with this cue?

It's possible, but you won't get good results! This is not a jump/break cue, just a jump cue.
 
I've played with it, but it's nothing special. It's very light, but don't think it will improve your game. I like a normal jumpcue more.
 
I would be interested

in how close you can get over a ball with the 3 pieces, and whether the closeness affects accuracy.

And how close you can get over a ball with 2 pieces and whether it has any measure of accuracy then?

It looks, weighs, and sounds very close to the Scorpion Jump Cue in the 2 piece mode, and pretty close to the original Frog in the 3 piece mode. The original Frog was 46" long. The Frog was good for accuracy, but anything 5" or closer and I couldn't get over the ball, and the Scorpion was good for getting over a ball, but my accuracy was not close to the Frog with it.

I have studied Jump cues for quite some time, and I have noticed that the real light ones are good for getting over a ball, but people struggle a lot with accuracy with them. And just reversed for longer heavier jump cues.
 
Omega Billiards

Some contact information for:
Omega Billiards
Michael
www.OmegaBilliards.com
1-817-232-4494

Good service. Nice guy.

Fed Ex tracking number says the Predator Air is out for delivery. :cool:
JoeyA
 
Snapshot9 said:
in how close you can get over a ball with the 3 pieces, and whether the closeness affects accuracy.

And how close you can get over a ball with 2 pieces and whether it has any measure of accuracy then?

It looks, weighs, and sounds very close to the Scorpion Jump Cue in the 2 piece mode, and pretty close to the original Frog in the 3 piece mode. The original Frog was 46" long. The Frog was good for accuracy, but anything 5" or closer and I couldn't get over the ball, and the Scorpion was good for getting over a ball, but my accuracy was not close to the Frog with it.

I have studied Jump cues for quite some time, and I have noticed that the real light ones are good for getting over a ball, but people struggle a lot with accuracy with them. And just reversed for longer heavier jump cues.

I'll try to figure out how close tonight with a conventional stroke, full length. For short, tight shots, the dart stroke is amazingly easy with this cue. I'll let you know.

Chris
 
Haven't played it yet, but I just got mine in.



The exterior is fine, but I have to honestly say I'm a little underwhelmed at the quality of the joints. The saw blade lines are still quite visible on the interior of the joint and there appears to be little bits of debris permanently adhered and pressed into the glue. It's just superficial stuff, but it looks sloppy and I would have expected better from Predator. Very similar to the pics posted earlier.

Still open minded about the way it plays, but not in as much of a hurry as I thought I'd be. I'll wait for traffic to die down a bit before heading out and check in later.
 
Da Poet said:
Haven't played it yet, but I just got mine in.



The exterior is fine, but I have to honestly say I'm a little underwhelmed at the quality of the joints. The saw blade lines are still quite visible on the interior of the joint and there appears to be little bits of debris permanently adhered and pressed into the glue. It's just superficial stuff, but it looks sloppy and I would have expected better from Predator. Very similar to the pics posted earlier.

Still open minded about the way it plays, but not in as much of a hurry as I thought I'd be. I'll wait for traffic to die down a bit before heading out and check in later.


Just got back from the pool hall. The Predator Air jumps VERY accurately, far more accurately than my Bunji Jump Cue or my old Ezell jump cue. You an easily draw your cue ball after jumping as well.

Like Tate said, the short handle is easy to jump with the dart stroke although I have never used that style of jumping and find it a little "new". Probably just need some more practice with it.

I did notice that it is harder to make short jumps (really short jumps) than it is to make long jumps. The cue feels like it is air instead of wood or whatever it is made of. It so light they could have called it the feather. :)


Overall, it gets a big thumbs up from me and I will be using it from now on.
I do need to get a lesson for jumping very short shots though as I too am not jumping short, that well.

JoeyA
 
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