Predator Men's Event Cancelled, Alberta Canada.

DaveK said:
lol ... Red Deer (about the size of Green Bay) is an hour drive to a city of 1M people to the north (larger than Austin Tx or Denver) , and a 1 hour drive to a city of 1.3M people (about the size of Dallas Tx) to the south ... not exactly "uninhabited".

Dave
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Try focusing on the content of my post. I said that "although Canada's landmass is largely uninhabited". I didn't claim that Red Deer or the surrounding area was. Just giving a sense of perspective on that although Red Deer is a small city, among driving distance to other cities. It's still a piss poor choice even in comparison to where you may end up if you just threw a dart at a Canadian map.

It would have taken extremely minor thought to have this event in a local more suited to fill the bracket.

Once again if we consider that that portion of the country is primarily a BB game, so local talent would be low. The organizers should have considered placing the event in a spot where it could have been fed by multiple and large populations. Clearly Niagara Falls would have been the best choice in this regard. Seconded by Toronto, which could have been trumped by Montreal. The 9ft pool scene in the Western Quebec area is strong.
 
The_JV said:
Try focusing on the content of my post. I said that "although Canada's landmass is largely uninhabited". I didn't claim that Red Deer or the surrounding area was. Just giving a sense of perspective on that although Red Deer is a small city, among driving distance to other cities. It's still a piss poor choice even in comparison to where you may end up if you just threw a dart at a Canadian map.

It would have taken extremely minor thought to have this event in a local more suited to fill the bracket.

Once again if we consider that that portion of the country is primarily a BB game, so local talent would be low. The organizers should have considered placing the event in a spot where it could have been fed by multiple and large populations. Clearly Niagara Falls would have been the best choice in this regard. Seconded by Toronto, which could have been trumped by Montreal. The 9ft pool scene in the Western Quebec area is strong.
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I guess I would have put it where there were more pro players. Are there that many in Canada?
I would have probably kept it in the states at least. I don't understand the reasoning.
 
336Robin said:
I guess I would have put it where there were more pro players. Are there that many in Canada?
I would have probably kept it in the states at least. I don't understand the reasoning.
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Pros go where the $$ is usually. I'm guessing travel issues, aka covid, was the main issue. There aren't any pros in Louisville either but they show up in droves for Derby.
 
I think its the format, in general. The MR 9 ball events sell out in 6 minutes, literally. The Predator events I believe have had byes since day one.

This specific event has too many corona restrictions for travel. But all the other USA based events have not had stellar attendance.
 
iusedtoberich said:
I think its the format, in general. The MR 9 ball events sell out in 6 minutes, literally. The Predator events I believe have had byes since day one.

This specific event has too many corona restrictions for travel. But all the other USA based events have not had stellar attendance.
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Arizona and Wisc. were both full. I think they were a tad hopeful by enlarging field so much for Vegas. IIRC the German event was full or close to it. Pros will play any format if the money is good. If they'd stick to 64man fields they'll all be full.
 
garczar said:
Arizona and Wisc. were both full. I think they were a tad hopeful by enlarging field so much for Vegas. IIRC the German event was full or close to it. Pros will play any format if the money is good. If they'd stick to 64man fields they'll all be full.
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Anyone got a payout for those events. Tournaments are always better attended with better payouts.
 
garczar said:
Seriously? https://probilliardseries.com/2022-arcadia-arizona-open/ scroll down to final stages. shows payouts.
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Where is there the first payout on this bracket?

I see no money on this.

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garczar said:
Also one at the bottom so you can see the final.
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I missed it because the writing is so small. Only a few are making any money. I can imagine donators would get tired
of having no chances. Maybe this is not a location issue. With the payouts being so small the players that attend anyway
are spending any sponsorship they have which is probably also small. So when they skip events they deem are going to cost
them funds they are deciding which one they have the money to play. Matchroom has the premium events.
 
336Robin said:
I missed it because the writing is so small. Only a few are making any money. I can imagine donators would get tired
of having no chances. Maybe this is not a location issue. With the payouts being so small the players that attend anyway
are spending any sponsorship they have which is probably also small. So when they skip events they deem are going to cost
them funds they are deciding which one they have the money to play. Matchroom has the premium events.
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MR also has been doing large events a lot longer. I don't think anyone with half a brain would put the Pred.ProSeries and the Matchroom9 on the same level. That being said any pro pool is good. People need to quit whining. BTW, here's the payout for a MR9 event. Gotta convert Euros. Good but not all that great. http://9ball.ro/
 
garczar said:
MR also has been doing large events a lot longer. I don't think anyone with half a brain would put the Pred.ProSeries and the Matchroom9 on the same level. That being said any pro pool is good. People need to quit whining. BTW, here's the payout for a MR9 event. Gotta convert Euros. Good but not all that great. http://9ball.ro/
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I don't think people are whining nearly as much as they are concerned. I rarely follow any of this and only got interested when a fellow
player mentioned it in conversation. I think the Predator effort is awesome, so I felt it was worth it to explore what went wrong.

With payouts at this level, I'm sure there is more to this than meets the eye. Events don't just jump on the screen there are surely
a lot of production costs. Although 40k of the entire prize fund was spent on 1st and 2nd place and with payouts this low why not
spread the love a little?

It would do things well if people would watch the matches on YouTube. That might help things, after all I'm sure there are sponsors.
 
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