Can anyone tell which series' of Predator cues are not made in China as I have a proposed trade in and do not want a Chinese made cue?
Thanks,
Pat
Thanks,
Pat
Predator Question
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My buddy has been to the Predator Factory in China quite a bit and let me tell you the place is huge with the most high tec equipment on earth. He also said you could eat off the floor its so clean. Doesn't matter what nationality is pressing the buttons, its the equipment there using that matters and there wood selection.
Believe it or not, there quality control is much better than most cues out there from anybody.
Why can't a guy just like buying Made in the USA items. Every time someone posts about buying "American Made" they get attack. I'm sick of it. Let it go. He just asked a question. I don't think you will change his mind on this forum.
Since you asked, the only answer is NO, you can't on any new ones. Only the really old ones were from US. I corrected my answer cause I thought you were referring to newer series.
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I think it's the earlier Predator stuff, Prior to 2002. If you can find one with a 5/16 X 14 Joint it would be a pretty good bet that one isn't Chinese, but I'm sure there are other joints they installed before they became "international".
and I think some of the shafts up until some of the 314-2's were American/Canadian made.
To me the original Z shafts are so uniquely different from the other shafts that I have wonder where those were made, but maybe that's just me
and I think some of the shafts up until some of the 314-2's were American/Canadian made.
To me the original Z shafts are so uniquely different from the other shafts that I have wonder where those were made, but maybe that's just me
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Cues are like cars in terms of where they come from. I live in Canada and when
I hear people say ''Buy Canadian'' I laugh because there isn't a car thats 100%
Canadian. Parts of the cars come from all over the world and we '' Assemble''
it. From tips to weight bolts, wood , finishes, pins and so on, come from all over.
Not sure what you read but my comment but it was far from an '' attack'' and think your
putting your own spin on what I said.
I was giving him some actual info about one of the biggest cue company in the world.
Not trying to change his mind, just clarifying that not all things made overseas is junk.
P.S i wrote this in a non - attack manner and was very calm while I was writing it
You are 100% correct, that series was the only cue ever ,that was made from top to bottom in Jacksonville.
My thoughts.
Almost impossible to avoid paying for something imported when buying such a product. The materials required are produced in too many different countries. Wood, plastic, metal, rubber, and more. Asia, South America, Central America....and Canada to name an individual country.
Even the ones people think were made in the USA very likely required contributing to importation of materials and paying for foreign labor.
The P2 was indeed made in Jacksonville. I do not know if any of the materials were imported from China though. It may be impossible to find out with certainty now. Obviously the woods were likely imported, but not likely from China, although with China importing and exporting so much wood it is possible.
I would say avoid buying a Predator if you wish to avoid Chinese products. Buy a cue from a company based in the US, that has always been based in the US, and that has never imported any of their finished products or engaged in any off-shore production.
To take it one step further, it might be difficult to establish whether a cue maker employs any Chinese immigrants or descendants of Chinese immigrants, but thorough investigation could probably settle the matter.
In addition, there is Chinese owned property in the US. One might want to make sure than none of the operations of cue manufacturing took place on property leased or purchased from Chinese.
Worthwhile if one is determined I suppose.
Good luck with your endeavor.
EDIT: One last thought. If you wish to definitely not support any China made products and you decide to find a P2, you should consider sanding off any logo or identifying marks to avoid unintended marketing for that company.
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Almost impossible to avoid paying for something imported when buying such a product. The materials required are produced in too many different countries. Wood, plastic, metal, rubber, and more. Asia, South America, Central America....and Canada to name an individual country.
Even the ones people think were made in the USA very likely required contributing to importation of materials and paying for foreign labor.
The P2 was indeed made in Jacksonville. I do not know if any of the materials were imported from China though. It may be impossible to find out with certainty now. Obviously the woods were likely imported, but not likely from China, although with China importing and exporting so much wood it is possible.
I would say avoid buying a Predator if you wish to avoid Chinese products. Buy a cue from a company based in the US, that has always been based in the US, and that has never imported any of their finished products or engaged in any off-shore production.
To take it one step further, it might be difficult to establish whether a cue maker employs any Chinese immigrants or descendants of Chinese immigrants, but thorough investigation could probably settle the matter.
In addition, there is Chinese owned property in the US. One might want to make sure than none of the operations of cue manufacturing took place on property leased or purchased from Chinese.
Worthwhile if one is determined I suppose.
Good luck with your endeavor.
EDIT: One last thought. If you wish to definitely not support any China made products and you decide to find a P2, you should consider sanding off any logo or identifying marks to avoid unintended marketing for that company.
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There is a way to tell: the serial number. The older predators don't have serial numbers. The serial number tell you what year and month it was produced.
There isn't any Predator cue that is not made in China, even if the butt is not, the shaft will be definitely made in China
But let me tell if you are in cue business I'll say take the trade because Predator cue will sell faster then most other cues.
After rereading your post it seems I jumped the gun. You were not attacking anyone. Maybe I've read to many posts that are anger filled towards someone that is just supporting there country.
Sorry for directing my comments at you.
No problem and thanks for that.Its hard to gage the mood or context somebody is
putting across on the computer. Like yourself, I've had to re-read a lot of comments
over the years to figure out how the person is putting forth there thoughts on the screen.
Takecare and thanks again
Predator question
I thank the people who gave me the answer I was looking for. I will not question the technology and and cleanliness of factories there (China) are probably state of the art. What people failed to account for is the primary ingredient in most pool cues is wood. I am very concerned on how long the wood and how the wood is seasoned. In addition, I believe with our economy being what it is here in the US we should support American cue makers. Again, thank you for the answer as it helps me determine whether I want to precede with the proposed trade in.
I thank the people who gave me the answer I was looking for. I will not question the technology and and cleanliness of factories there (China) are probably state of the art. What people failed to account for is the primary ingredient in most pool cues is wood. I am very concerned on how long the wood and how the wood is seasoned. In addition, I believe with our economy being what it is here in the US we should support American cue makers. Again, thank you for the answer as it helps me determine whether I want to precede with the proposed trade in.
Well I bought my predator from a small business owned by an american so that's good enough haha