Predator Revo shafts everywhere at the DCC

I'm not sure about Becue, but Revo shafts do vary from one piece to another. They do behave slightly different (in the context of being used on a cue), just like maple shafts of the same make (e.g. 314, OB Pro, Wx700, etc). Is it an issue of weight or whatever? Sorry, I can't answer that objectively; I just know it's different.

I was disappointed at first because I genuinely thought they are now able to create a shaft that plays exactly the same regardless of which one you pull off the shelf. But oh well, on the bright side, variety is the spice of life I suppose.

I have to agree with you here. My 12.9 (uni loc) played awesome. But the 12.4 which I paired with my LE13 was awful. Both tips were factory Predator tips. Deflection-wise the 12.9 exhibited lower deflection than the 12.4.

I do have a Becue as well but I have not tried to learn how much the shaft deflects. So far, everyone that has tried my Becue has praised it for being solid feeling & vibration free.
 
What I do have issue with and have to strongly disagree with is where you said you made 5 shots with the Revo that you couldn't have made with your regular shaft. Do I believe that you honestly believe that - yes. But in no way can the Revo; or any other LD shaft make ANY shot that could not be made with the good Ole Maple - period. I offer some of our respected instructors and Dr Dave to chime in on this too. I think it's great your happy with the Revo but find that statement VERY misleading to anyone reading it that doesn't know any better.

Make sure you are arguing against what the guy actually said. Did he say *he* couldn't make it with his regular shaft, or did he say the shot cannot be made with a regular shaft? I have a nice Andy Gilbert cue. I already played Predator when I bought the cue, so I got 1 314-2 shaft from Andy and 1 regular Gilbert shaft for completeness sake. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the Gilbert shaft and it hits wonderfully. However, *I* cannot make a ball using english. Ok, I can adjust a bit and kinda sorta play, but there are shots that I can make with the Predator that I simply cannot make with the regular shaft. Now. Today. Without a ton of practice.

Really, though, it is more about the consistency with which I can make shots using considerable english. When I'm playing "old school" guys who play with standard maple shafts, and are very good players, I notice that when they really have to stroke the ball with english at a distance, they miss a lot more than they should. Beautiful speed and shape most times, but miss the big shot requiring a lot of english. Whereas the C player with the Revo shaft may not play at their level, doesn't have the speed control and shape, but hits those big spin shots like hangers. I'm not trying to make any point with this...just my observation.

KMRUNOUT
 
Uni-lock and Radial is what they currently provide whether it is popular or not.

I like a 3/8 x 10 modified joint myself but the 30" shaft is important to me but an e-mail today says they haven't finished compiling their test results on the 30" shafts and won't be divulging that info either, which seems to mean that 30" shafts aren't just around the corner.

Perhaps if the public demands it with more phone calls and more e-mails we might see it. Personally, I think the 29" shafts are just a tad too light for my taste. I don't know if I just want the extra weight or that I feel more comfortable playing with a 30" REVO shaft.

JoeyA


Uniloc is that popular? I see more 3/8-10 pin than uni-loc. I really dislike anything but a 3/8-10 or a radial. Seems like they get the job done fine, and easy enough fitting another shaft to them if the cue maker didn't "alter" the threads a bit ;)
 
I don't know why so many hate the REVO. I love mine... If you got the bucks buy one, if not play with a walmart stick. SVB could beat any of us with a Walmart special.
 
Or if your a real player you don’t worry about what everyone else is playing with.. you find out what’s best for YOUR game.

Im a Predator fan as well as Mezz and have had dozens of both, some play great and some play like logs. No two shafts will ever be the same but the Revo will be the closest anything will ever come because its not wood and the makeup should be identical within. That being said, I have friends who are really good players and after trying the Revo shaft said they'll keep their money and stick with what they have. Its all personal preference, several people in my town bought them due to the hype and now they're for sale.

Here's a great quote by Heraclitus that sums it up...
"Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back"

Find out what the warrior is playing with...
 
I play with solid maple. I know how much deflection my shafts have. That being said, if a product could improve my pocketing percentage on inside English shots, I'd be willing to give it a try. $500 isn't much but I don't want to waste it if I don't like the revo. I don't want to be stuck selling one either. Predator should give popular pool halls some loaners for their patrons to try imo.
 
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I play with solid maple. I know how much deflection my shafts have. That being said, if a product could improve my pocketing percentage on inside English shots, is be willing to give it a try. $500 isn't much but I don't want to waste it of I don't like the revo. I don't want to be stuck selling one either. Predator should give popular pool halls some loaners for their patrons to try imo.


Hey James. Your question is exactly why I decided to with a LD shaft. Played with a maple all my life. At 50 years old, I still had problems with using inside English on certain shots, mainly long shots, but the mediocre once seem to ratter more often then I'd like.

So, I bought an OB shaft to give it a go. I figured it I don't like it, I'd sell it and only lose $30 bucks or so. So, no big deal.

Well, I liked it. The inside English shots were working great. With the ob on the rail, 1.5 diamonds from the pocket, and the cb down near the spot. Make the ob, and spin cb around 3 or 4 rails for position of another ball near the bottom rail.

Oh, I know a TON of guys that make that shot with a maple shaft all day long and twice on Sunday. I, unfortunately, was not one of them (consistently anyways). Until now.

So, I kept the shaft and never looked back. Does it sound different, does it feel different, does it hit a little different. Yes, yes and yes.

But, I don't care if the cue sounds like a "cat on a hot tin roof" as long as the balls go in the hole.

I think you'd be better off going OB, Tiger, or other LD before shelling out big bucks for a REVO. So, far, it does not sound like the LD properties are that much better than a standard Pred shaft? and yes, using outside English has great benefits too, especially when you need to hit it a little harder with draw. So, it's working well.
 
I play with solid maple. I know how much deflection my shafts have. That being said, if a product could improve my pocketing percentage on inside English shots, I'd be willing to give it a try. $500 isn't much but I don't want to waste it if I don't like the revo. I don't want to be stuck selling one either. Predator should give popular pool halls some loaners for their patrons to try imo.

Wow an honest answer.. not putting the shaft down just saying it’s not for you lol and I agree. I was fortunate to get to play with it at the sbx a couple times to know I liked the hit but it still took some time to get used to. I would have a tough time blowing $500 on a shaft and have no idea what I was buying. Maybe that’s why I never bought a cue on the internet. I need to hit some balls with it before I spend the money.
 
I bought one of these in case I cross over to the dark side.

That is good looking stick. No dought Predator knows what they are doing. It will look good with that Revo:). UniLoc Radial? I did not realize until yesterday that the Predator Group owes UniLoc and Poison Billiards.
 
Predator should hire me to go around the country to the pool tournaments and demonstrate how the REVO shaft can improve your pocketing percentage on inside English shots.

Predator could just pay my expenses to the tournament and I would cover my own entry fees. :cool: In turn, I would set appointments to positively show how using a REVO shaft can improve your pocketing percentages when using inside English and for that matter, ANY English.

I have had about 20 LD DymondWood cues built in the last few years and they have exceptional low deflection characteristics, but are expensive to build/difficult to build, are very stiff AND brittle. An unencumbered flat fall on the concrete floor can result in the shaft splitting. Other than that, they are great. The REVO looks like it is pretty much indestructible for all practical purposes.

That FARGO guy Mike Page, who likes to rake the balls with the side of his cue shaft would never have to worry about dinging up the shaft. :thumbup:

JoeyA

I play with solid maple. I know how much deflection my shafts have. That being said, if a product could improve my pocketing percentage on inside English shots, I'd be willing to give it a try. $500 isn't much but I don't want to waste it if I don't like the revo. I don't want to be stuck selling one either. Predator should give popular pool halls some loaners for their patrons to try imo.
 
Predator should give popular pool halls some loaners for their patrons to try imo.

The REVO's are selling as fast as they are made. I said before and repeat no shaft will make me a better player. I have a lot of hours on my 12.4 and enjoy the smooth, straight. knick free feel of it. And the black material helps me with shot alignment.
Interesting that everything new sells. If there were no low flection shafts and everyone used maple our focus would be on tip, ferrules, shaft length, diameter. etc. The bangers in my room have no idea what the REVO is. The better players are welcome to try mine but are not overwhelmingly impressed. They already have good equipment. I will say a buyer cannot go wrong with a REVO. It will most likely last a lifetime. If they have unrealistic expectations that will be a let down. The reviews are mostly positive. You want it. Can afford it. Buy it.
 
Just wait till the RevoX!!!
Don't tell them to wait. I want ALL players to buy EVERY new shaft that comes out. It'll be good for the billiard industry in general. I'll just stick with my old-fashion maple shafts. I do spend money on Blue Diamond chalk, so I'm doing my little part !!!
 
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Are you sure that Predator didn't have some kind of giveaway? We have been waiting for our REVO back orders since OCT! Prior to the show we were told that we should expect April 1st (April Fools?) and now after the show we are told that our orders will not be delivered until June 30th!!! It seems odd that all the players have them, while the vendors who sell them can't seem to get ANY of their orders.
 
Are you sure that Predator didn't have some kind of giveaway? We have been waiting for our REVO back orders since OCT! Prior to the show we were told that we should expect April 1st (April Fools?) and now after the show we are told that our orders will not be delivered until June 30th!!! It seems odd that all the players have them, while the vendors who sell them can't seem to get ANY of their orders.

Per another thread:
Was told by the rep that the 11.8mm has been in testing and a couple people have them to test but production will most likely be a long way off due to them not having enough for the demand now. They were also planning on releasing a couple of other pins for the shaft but halted that plan as well for the same reason. They have so many on order from all their dealers they want to fill and catch up before they release anything else.
 
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Are you sure that Predator didn't have some kind of giveaway? We have been waiting for our REVO back orders since OCT! Prior to the show we were told that we should expect April 1st (April Fools?) and now after the show we are told that our orders will not be delivered until June 30th!!! It seems odd that all the players have them, while the vendors who sell them can't seem to get ANY of their orders.

June 30th? I hope that isn't the case for everyone :(
 
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