While that is one clear advantage of using Diamond tables in a temporary tournament venue, I doubt it was what Dartman meant.
"Predator" tables
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While that is one clear advantage of using Diamond tables in a temporary tournament venue, I doubt it was what Dartman meant.
Thanks for the followup. Now I understand why you wrote what you did and it makes good sense
I wonder if the flyer you have is for a separate amateur event in the same basic location, and not the "pro" event we are watching on the stream? When the press releases came out about a month or two ago about this new tour put on by CSI, I recall it stated all the events would be played on Predator tables. The exception was the event at Griffs which would be played on Diamond tables (since its an existing pool room, not a temporary tournament venue).
If the slate is crowned or bowed how much can one actually move the slate with screw pressure before it cracks?? If the slate is crowned/bowed badly can one put some tension on it, let it sit for awhile until it relaxes then add more tension later to "bend" it all the way back?? Kind of like they do with houses when the joists are sagging?? Not trying to derail the thread, just wondering what the fix is if there is one.And they're 3 piece slates, each one has to be assembled from scratch, and THOSE tables have crowned slate problems that are requiring the slates to be drilled out and screwed down to the center supports....way to design a top notch pool table guys!!
Yeah, drill the slate, ad slate screws in the middle, pull down the slates, but that also depends on the frame work.
That's just temporary, because then the tables have to be disassembled after the event, and if anyone buys one from the event....guess what
Average Joes
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Sorry to hijack this post a touch, not completely related but was really interested to hear from someone with experience in table set up for professional tournaments (realcobraking)...
I always assumed that Diamond tables in pro competitions would be the 9 foot single piece slates rather than 3 piece, which is what you are suggesting here as correct also? Makes perfect sense to use those slates, MUCH faster for levelling!
BUT when you look at the WPA regulations here:
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It says:
"Tournament tables must have a set of slates consisting of three pieces of equal size with wooden frame of at least ¾ inch [1.905 cm] thick lumber attached underneath the slate. The slate sections must be secured to the base frame with countersunk screws or bolts."
This would suggest that only 3 piece slates can be used for tournament tables, and therefore that a single piece slate would not be permitted?
Is those another one of those WPA grey areas where their own rules don't actually apply in real life, or did I miss something, or is this actually the case (can't be!!!???!!)
My question? Are single piece slates ok for/used in pro tournament or not? (my guess, yes!)
The short answer is the regulatory bodies take about 30 years to catch up to the standard of equipment and rules.Sorry to hijack this post a touch, not completely related but was really interested to hear from someone with experience in table set up for professional tournaments (realcobraking)...
I always assumed that Diamond tables in pro competitions would be the 9 foot single piece slates rather than 3 piece, which is what you are suggesting here as correct also? Makes perfect sense to use those slates, MUCH faster for levelling!
BUT when you look at the WPA regulations here:
Rules
Navigate the rules and regulations of pool with ease. Stay informed and play fair with WPA Rules!
It says:
"Tournament tables must have a set of slates consisting of three pieces of equal size with wooden frame of at least ¾ inch [1.905 cm] thick lumber attached underneath the slate. The slate sections must be secured to the base frame with countersunk screws or bolts."
This would suggest that only 3 piece slates can be used for tournament tables, and therefore that a single piece slate would not be permitted?
Is those another one of those WPA grey areas where their own rules don't actually apply in real life, or did I miss something, or is this actually the case (can't be!!!???!!)
My question? Are single piece slates ok for/used in pro tournament or not? (my guess, yes!)
DeeDeeCues
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To me it looks like the table is wearing bell bottom jeans and from the angle the picture is taken it looks like it is supposed to be a 3c table. Dont know why, its just what I see.
Doesn't look much worse than the Paragon. Those legs look like an arthritic dog popping a squat.
DeeDeeCues
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Sorry to hijack this post a touch, not completely related but was really interested to hear from someone with experience in table set up for professional tournaments (realcobraking)...
I always assumed that Diamond tables in pro competitions would be the 9 foot single piece slates rather than 3 piece, which is what you are suggesting here as correct also? Makes perfect sense to use those slates, MUCH faster for levelling!
BUT when you look at the WPA regulations here:
Rules
Navigate the rules and regulations of pool with ease. Stay informed and play fair with WPA Rules!
It says:
"Tournament tables must have a set of slates consisting of three pieces of equal size with wooden frame of at least ¾ inch [1.905 cm] thick lumber attached underneath the slate. The slate sections must be secured to the base frame with countersunk screws or bolts."
This would suggest that only 3 piece slates can be used for tournament tables, and therefore that a single piece slate would not be permitted?
Is those another one of those WPA grey areas where their own rules don't actually apply in real life, or did I miss something, or is this actually the case (can't be!!!???!!)
My question? Are single piece slates ok for/used in pro tournament or not? (my guess, yes!)
Wpa also bans any foreign objects being on the playing surface when a short is taken, but rack templates are used all the time.
The problem with those BCA rules, is, they didn't write them! Craig with Connelly billiards did, way back then, now why do you suppose that wasSorry to hijack this post a touch, not completely related but was really interested to hear from someone with experience in table set up for professional tournaments (realcobraking)...
I always assumed that Diamond tables in pro competitions would be the 9 foot single piece slates rather than 3 piece, which is what you are suggesting here as correct also? Makes perfect sense to use those slates, MUCH faster for levelling!
BUT when you look at the WPA regulations here:
Rules
Navigate the rules and regulations of pool with ease. Stay informed and play fair with WPA Rules!
It says:
"Tournament tables must have a set of slates consisting of three pieces of equal size with wooden frame of at least ¾ inch [1.905 cm] thick lumber attached underneath the slate. The slate sections must be secured to the base frame with countersunk screws or bolts."
This would suggest that only 3 piece slates can be used for tournament tables, and therefore that a single piece slate would not be permitted?
Is those another one of those WPA grey areas where their own rules don't actually apply in real life, or did I miss something, or is this actually the case (can't be!!!???!!)
My question? Are single piece slates ok for/used in pro tournament or not? (my guess, yes!)
BCA?The problem with those BCA rules, is, they didn't write them! Craig with Connelly billiards did, way back then, now why do you suppose that was
I didn't studder!!
OK. The reason I asked is the subject was WPA.... not BCA.
The BCA has been around since 1922, the WPA since 1987. The WPA adopted a lot from the BCA.