Pro level players entered in Bca open events

[DelayedJuice]

Played this Danny guy last year in a mini at the Rio. He plays good but he told me he didn't do well in the open last year. So if he didn't do well last year whats all the fuss about? His exact words were " yea I'm a scrub". He sounded pretty down on himself for not doing well. Maybe he thought like you guys and thought he had it in the bag. I really believe the open division in BCA is one of the toughest tournaments to win. Race to 5 alternate break and the last 48 are running everything. Sometimes it doesn't go so well for favourites. How about just play and have some fun……seems like a decent option lol

 

[bdorman]

Since the probability of breaking even after expenses is so low, I can only assume that players' primary motivation is to play pool. 95% of them know they'll lose money on the deal. They're there to play and compete against other players like them.

But if your division is loaded with ringers you'll barely even get to play. Two- or three- and out. Go home.

 

[cardiac kid]

Lyn -

If you or anyone else is playing in the BCAPL with the intention of going to Vega$ to come out ahead on your expenses, you need to do some serious re-evaluating. Just like any pool tournament, two or three people (or teams) make money. Everyone else goes home even at best or loser.

But if you want an excuse to go to Vega$, have something to do while there besdes trying to hit the jackpot slot machine, see some old friends, make some new friends, get some competition all in an atmosphere that is professionally run and organized, then you should jump at the chance to play in the BCAPL. I've been going every year since 1998 and look forward to it every year.

And I wouldn't advertise it as withholding the entry fee --- I would let people know they 'won' a free entry fee to next year. Attendance would go up. And if they don't show up, still obviously put the entry fee $$$ in the prize pool to benefit those that do attend.

This whole thing is really suppose to be about having fun. I'm playing in the 9 Ball Challenge, Master Scotch Doubles, Mixed 9 Ball Teams and Super Seniors 8 Ball. I do go for the fun. Of course it's nice to win some money very once in a while. The problem is most of the players who finish high in the singles don't come back the next year to support the next higher level event. The expenses are too high and the chances of success go down the higher you go.

You and me are league players. We love the competition, the chance to see old friends and meet new ones. Some of the players like those mentioned by the OP are going strictly to make money. They may have spent the eight weeks qualifying but their hearts are in what they can do, not what the team does. I've been at the bottom with a two and out team, The middle with "we got our entry fee back!!!!" team and the top with a second place finisher over the twenty plus years I've played team events. Regardless of how I do this year, I'll be back next year. So will you.

Bill Stock has a thankless job. If he does his job correctly, lots of players will be angry he didn't allow them to "sneak" into the Open. Or the Leasure for that matter. Through the past ten years, me and Bill have had many discussions about player ratings. He takes his job seriously and does not like to be "played". I'll give him the benefit of the doubt every time!

See you in Vegas!

Lyn

 

[u12armresl]

Where's that apology at for something I didn't say?

I think one of the big things here is that this is a league tournament. A lot of people are doing this recreationally, so they're encouraged to participate through handicapping that gives them hope that they can cash. These are people that already spend time playing league and probably don't want to waste money, more time and a good part of their vacation time to get beat down. The division participation is probably a pretty good representation of the balance of players in the BCA(80% low, 15% A, 4% M and 1% GM, if that.)

The DCC is a great example of a tournament that's run on even footing. The atmosphere is built for old-school gambling and pool star-gazing. They each are catering to the crowd that they are followed by.

If you take a look at the divisions, you can also see names such as Chip Compton competing in the Masters division, not the GM. Pool is a funny thing. Oregon did pretty well last year, too, but you certainly wouldn't consider this a place to earn your stripes and pay your dues playing monsters.

 

[Mark Griffin]

George Mastermaker is also the dad's name - so I'm not sure which one you played. There is also a brother named Joey.

Hard to tell but it should be about having fun.

Mark Griffin

Last year in the men's 8 ball open BCA, I matched up with a George Mastermaker. Hmm...that name sounded familiar...who am I thinking of...

Anyway I asked him and sure enough it was Danny...I guess that is his middle name or something. I played pretty well and ended up winning the match and knocking him out of the tourney. I won 1 or 2 more and then lost. Do I belong in the Open division? Probably. I got 65th. I'd say Danny or a player like him should have their shot at the tourney. I think if you get like top 8 or something you are bumped up to the advanced division. I see no problem with this. Danny is a very nice guy and was glad to meet him. I played a great match and had something to feel good about. Win-win to me. If he had beat me, well then I had the chance to play a great player.

KMRUNOUT

 

[Banks]

Why???, maybe because he finished 17th at the US Open and Turning Stone pro level tournaments last year. He lost 9-7 at turning stone to Alex Pagulayan it's on YouTube
Can Alex also play in the Open division in that case?

Other than the newly-formed Leisure division, the BCA's Open division is their lowest. After that, it goes Advanced, Master and Grandmaster.

He lost 9-7 to Alex so he can't play? And he placed 17th at the US Open?

You really come across as one of the bitter APA posters, but this is a BCA thread.

Be careful, I got red rep for implying the same thing.

Who cares who plays in it, get up and play. I'm waiting for the follow up post of "I played and drew Danny M. and beat him, man I played really well"

No, you got a red rep for not reading what was posted before your reply and making a snide APA comment.

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Confusion is starting to set in now.. you're complaining about Mastermaker or others not being allowed in the bottom division, but then you follow it up by saying people should go for the gold? Feel free to say how he should've just signed up for the GM division to begin with.

You better reread things and tell me where I complained about Danny or anyone playing.

Where's that apology at for something I didn't say?

If you're cashing in good pro fields and are fairly competitive with pros, then you should not be in the lowest division. You then follow it up by saying people should man up and play hard, but then that doesn't apply to strong players wanting to slip into the lower division? Why is that? So, what exactly was it that you were complaining about? The bitter APA players? Where did that even come from? People that don't want to play even against Mastermaker or that Mastermaker doesn't want to play even against others? Are you complaining about people not playing?

I'll repeat.. you got the red rep for skipping over what was already said, not for implying people should play even(even though they won't play even with others). That's why I hadn't bothered responding, because you're missing my point and it doesn't look like we're going to agree on anything here.

 

[Put_upor_shutup]

Anybody wanna play some 10$ tic tac toe?

 

[Lonestar_jim]

Anybody wanna play some 10$ tic tac toe?

Call it.

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[takeitdown]

If anybody here isn't willing to play anybody on a barbox with alternating break then they shouldn't travel to the event. If you are a AA level or better you can beat anybody on a barbox period. Short races are even better.

I guess everybody complaining about better players doesn't play big table long race events like Derby, Turning Stone or US open.

 

[Banks]

If anybody here isn't willing to play anybody on a barbox with alternating break then they shouldn't travel to the event. If you are a AA level or better you can beat anybody on a barbox period. Short races are even better.

I guess everybody complaining about better players doesn't play big table long race events like Derby, Turning Stone or US open.

You do understand this is still a league tournament, right?