pro players are they the best instructors?

[9baller90]

If there's room on AZ Billiards for CJ Wiley and Stevie Moore, there should be room on AZ Billiards for Patrick Johnson and Neil.

The difference is that CJ and Stevie offer their advice to others and try to help people, whereas Pj and Neil negatively challenge everyone and everything which doesn't help anyone... Pj and Neil troll CJs threads while trying to dismantle his techniques, which is completely and utterly stupid to do. Cj is trying to help people improve and these jack knobs are trying to challenge him at every level just because their scientific analytical reasoning doesn't agree with CJs methods... Gimmie a break... Need more people like CJ on here rather than PJ and Neil......

Just my 2 cents...
Rant over.

 

[TheThaiger]

The difference is that CJ and Stevie offer their advice to others and try to help people, whereas Pj and Neil negatively challenge everyone and everything which doesn't help anyone... Pj and Neil troll CJs threads while trying to dismantle his techniques, which is completely and utterly stupid to do. Cj is trying to help people improve and these jack knobs are trying to challenge him at every level just because their scientific analytical reasoning doesn't agree with CJs methods... Gimmie a break... Need more people like CJ on here rather than PJ and Neil......

Just my 2 cents...
Rant over.

You are entitled to your opinion, I suppose...

 

[ENGLISH!]

If I wore a hat, I'd take it off to John Barton & CJ Wiley.

We ALL need to learn to be more civil to one another no matter how diverse our 'disagreement'. Myself included.

 

[nobcitypool]

I think one qualifier to those offering opinions should be added, that being, have you taken a lesson from a qualified/certified instructor such as Scott Lee/Randy G and a lesson from a pro such as CJ or Stevie?

I have done both. I think the answer is sometimes. I think it depends upon your level of play and what help you're needing. To use an example far at the edge to make this point, let's say I was a very good banks player just about ready to compete well in the Banks Tourney at DCC. I suspect I would gain more by going to John Brumback to learn his banking system that getting a stroke lesson. At the same time, if I was a novice player looking to learn banking basics, I might be better served reading Freddy the Beard's banking book or getting a lesson from Scott.

There is a gift to teaching. Few really have it. There's a gift to being a professional pool player. Few really have it. That said, guess how few professional pool players likely also have that special gift to teach? By no means am I saying a professional player cannot teach well and/or bring a lot to the party. I do think however, for the vast majority of pool players seeking instruction, a person whose primary directive is instruction would serve them best.

 

[nobcitypool]

After it was over, I "woke up" out of my trance and smiled at him. He didn't smile back, something had happened to him and I"ll never honestly know what that was for sure. You see I never saw him again.....he completely disappeared and would never return my messages. Still to this day I haven't seen him and that was over 8 years ago. I lost a good friend over a silly pool game, and it was because I couldn't control my killer instinct and desire to, not only win, but to demoralize my opponent.

CJ, I respectively disagree. Had he been a good friend, he would have caught on to what just happened and realized what an a$$ he had been to you all the time you'd been playing golf together. Sounds like he lost a good friend, you gained freedom from an A-Hole with issues. If you can't take it, you shouldn't be handing it out. You accepted his crap for a long time and when you handed it back one single time, it blew him up. His problem, not yours.

I think the majority of us, if we had your martial arts skills, would have chosen the "snap his neck" option. LOL

 

[CJ Wiley]

CJ, I respectively disagree. Had he been a good friend, he would have caught on to what just happened and realized what an a$$ he had been to you all the time you'd been playing golf together. Sounds like he lost a good friend, you gained freedom from an A-Hole with issues. If you can't take it, you shouldn't be handing it out. You accepted his crap for a long time and when you handed it back one single time, it blew him up. His problem, not yours.

I think the majority of us, if we had your martial arts skills, would have chosen the "snap his neck" option. LOL

Yeah, but once you start "snapping necks," I hear it's difficult to stop.

 

[DWoods6354]

Test of improvement

If I may, perhaps I can offer a humble test of skills improvement (less subjective than others).

I live in the DFW area, and have played in an established and stable league for the last 3 seasons. This is not a league that "rates" players. We simply play and mark the win / loss. No handicaps, no ratings, no issues. I have an consistent win/loss percentage with this group (not a lot of turnover in this league. It's mostly a fun league althoug it does pay at the end of eacy year - and my win/loss percentages have been very consistant and have not changed much over time. This should hold true for most league players in this type of environment.

Of course - this proof of improvements would take a bit longer as the "student" would need to compare against previous full seasons.

To be clear, I am not requesting free instruction. I have however strongly considered attending Randy G's pool school as I have never heard a negative about the experience from a former student.

I would naturally measure my progress against my historical record.

Lotsa league players in DFW would probably do the same - Just a thought.