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Pro Pool Players Can't Make A Living!
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You want me to tell?
Why do I have to say it? Are you serious? You mean that this question is so difficult that nobody else gets it?
I don't think so! Like I said at the start...the answer is about as obvious as gravity.
Maybe this is actually the reason why billiards has wallowed in this situation for decades!
I guess people really just don't get it!!!!!
I'm stunned to be honest with you!
Why do I have to say it? Are you serious? You mean that this question is so difficult that nobody else gets it?
I don't think so! Like I said at the start...the answer is about as obvious as gravity.
Maybe this is actually the reason why billiards has wallowed in this situation for decades!
I guess people really just don't get it!!!!!
I'm stunned to be honest with you!
This subject has been beat to death.
No big time corporate sponsors paying to sponsor Pool. no TV coverage of Pool, so again no sponsorship money, or advertising revenues,
Too many pool organization, (BCA, APL, APL. etc.) or bodies governing what Pool so you do not have just ONE BODY like in REAL SPORTS RUNNING THE SHOW.
Like NASCAR, NHRA, NFL, MLB, Basketball, etc.
Ar you a talented Pool Player? Do you have the ability to learn GOLF, do so become a Pro Golfer. Make a decent living.
Why should you be stunned? Apparently we've all been tripping over ourselves for decades. Please do help us solve this dilemma. Oh, and I'm sure you'd be willing to put your name behind it, right?
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Back in the day, Willie Mosconi was on Brunswicks pay roll. Willie ran around the country to rooms promoting the game, Brunswick invested in, or invested in Willie was good business. As Brunswick saw a huge return in their investment.
Prize money comes from investors. Investors make their money by viewers/spectators buying the investors products. Currently, there are not enough viewers/spectators.
It will take a long time for pool to substantially increase it's popularity. IMHO, if it does happen and for it to sustain, it will start with youths and children through school and child programs. Incorporate pool in teaching physics, math, geometry and after school child social gatherings.
It will take a long time for pool to substantially increase it's popularity. IMHO, if it does happen and for it to sustain, it will start with youths and children through school and child programs. Incorporate pool in teaching physics, math, geometry and after school child social gatherings.
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The difficulties in generating (wealth / global) interest in Pool isn't the question nor the answer... This will only hurt the brain and waste resources.
The question and answer is:
How do you get everyone involved in pool on the same page, preaching from the same book at the same time!
Achieve this - we will see a change.
A change brings a different outcome. Whether it is good for the game or not. At least change would be upon us...
IMO - I think most would agree that a change in 'pool' administration is needed (hope I'm not wrong in thinking this?) :thumbup:
The question and answer is:
How do you get everyone involved in pool on the same page, preaching from the same book at the same time!
Achieve this - we will see a change.
A change brings a different outcome. Whether it is good for the game or not. At least change would be upon us...
IMO - I think most would agree that a change in 'pool' administration is needed (hope I'm not wrong in thinking this?) :thumbup:
Like I said earlier...
Like I said earlier...many of you are not going to like what I have to say if and when I give (I could say my opinion but actually, it is the very reason) the answers to my original questions.
The more I watch your responses and how most of you are giving some reasons why there isn't more money but not pinpointing the actual cause, it is becoming more and more obvious why this has gone on for so long and by all appearances...will continue indefinitely by the looks of things.
To be fair though, some of you have dropped grenades all around the actual reason but no one has come right out and got to the nuts and bolts of this problem.
Sorry that I haven't divulged the actual reason but I am just waiting to see how long it's gonna take before someone actually has the testicles to admit the truth.
By the way, this isn't some game I'm playing here. I'm not trying to get a lot of attention by holding off on my answer.
I am gaining more understanding into the depth of this problem though by seeing how long it is taking for people to bring up the OBVIOUS reasons why this problems exists!
...still waiting!
Like I said earlier...many of you are not going to like what I have to say if and when I give (I could say my opinion but actually, it is the very reason) the answers to my original questions.
The more I watch your responses and how most of you are giving some reasons why there isn't more money but not pinpointing the actual cause, it is becoming more and more obvious why this has gone on for so long and by all appearances...will continue indefinitely by the looks of things.
To be fair though, some of you have dropped grenades all around the actual reason but no one has come right out and got to the nuts and bolts of this problem.
Sorry that I haven't divulged the actual reason but I am just waiting to see how long it's gonna take before someone actually has the testicles to admit the truth.
By the way, this isn't some game I'm playing here. I'm not trying to get a lot of attention by holding off on my answer.
I am gaining more understanding into the depth of this problem though by seeing how long it is taking for people to bring up the OBVIOUS reasons why this problems exists!
...still waiting!
Got it. You've got nothing. I'm moving on.
Wow...
Now we're getting closer! Not there yet but shrapnel from the grenades is starting to permeate the meat! Come on guys...think!
Honestly...the answers are OBVIOUS!
It takes people who are willing to see the truth and accept the responsibility to bring change!
Now we're getting closer! Not there yet but shrapnel from the grenades is starting to permeate the meat! Come on guys...think!
Honestly...the answers are OBVIOUS!
It takes people who are willing to see the truth and accept the responsibility to bring change!
Yeah that's it FranCrimi...move on!
Go ahead and move on if you like! Most others have chosen to move on because they keep choosing to kick the can down the road...for decades!
Go ahead and move on if you like! Most others have chosen to move on because they keep choosing to kick the can down the road...for decades!
Yeah- you're better off trying to find out who the two undercover monsters are who decided not to snap off Hard Times.
I like your style. The art of fighting without fighting :thumb up:
BUT SERIOUSLY - Those who can do. Those who can't teach...
I'm a doer and that's why I'm always interested in these kind of verbal exchanges.
The more doers we have in our industry - CSI springs to mind - the greater % growth will happen over time for pool.
Now I'm off to continue to do... :thumbup:
Rob,
As a known "Dead Money" player, I'm mortified at your suggestion. Take us amatuer players out of a "pro" tournament and you have NO tournament. Mark G's challenge scenario is an interesting twist on new events. As we found out, there is a potential down side as well. Force the amatuers to play in qualifiers at their expense just to challenge the pro's (again at their expense) and you have a scenario destined to fail. Why would I want to do that? I'd just pack my bags and drive to the Turning Stone and play in a "professional" event.
Secondly, who is a professional pool player? Look on the BCAPL / CSI website and there are none! Only "Greand Master" players. ACS, APA and VNEA do have a list but they're years out of date. How does someone become a "pro". Define that please.
Professional pool is either dead or dying. Whether we like it or not. Who's to blame? Way too many factors. Some say the players themselves for having too many failed self-governing player bodies. Some say BCA. No action from the governing body of American pool. Some say the promoters are making most of the money. Some say it's the economy. In reality it is a combination of all of the above and more.
Guess I'm jaded. You can find me at a variety of amatuer "only" events. As there is no definition of a professional, known players are still allowed in to many of the events I play in
. Oh well. It's either that or no events at all.Lyn
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I think most people won't like what you have to say because you say it in a condescending manner. Also, if you stop putting the cart before the horse, it might help. I have an answer, but I'm saving it for a chance to try it out.
Novel idea: How about you just say it already. You're not nearly as important as you think you are, and your revelation, odds are, is nothing new. So set aside your misconstrued vision of self-worth and stop wasting everyone's time. Say what you want to say so we can put this thread to rest the same as we did the hundreds that came before it.
Barry Behrman, Mark Griffen and Barry Hearn would be sad for a week.