Pro Pool vs Pro Golf TV Productions

Rickhem

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Pro Golf is the result of years and years of what I'll call "grooming". You'll not see a pro golfer on TV smoking, or seldom drinking anything but water. You won't see them wearing anything other than pants, and the standard golf shirt, although they show more and more sponsor logos. Payne Stewart, with his "plus 4s" were channeled to stay within the guidelines, while allowing for variety. They (the PGA) have an image that the players need to align themselves with, and for the overwhelming majority, they do, at least while on-camera. Watch any broadcast and whenever they get to the last few holes, all the tournament leaders are talked about like they're saints. I'm not saying that they players are phonies, but they go with the program because the years have shown that doing so makes a golf tournament broadcast more attractive to sponsorship, and that means more money for the prize pool. Everyone wins.
 

KissedOut

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Golf and pool are nothing alike and there's nothing useful that pool coverage can get from golf coverage.
 

Cuedup

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Hitting a ball with a stick describes a number of sports. The unpopular ones could definitely learn from the popular ones, assuming increasingly popularity is a goal.
 

hang-the-9

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I'd love to see a pool tournament covered like a golf tournament.

Not sure if that would work well, there is much less time between shots in a pool tournament and I think hopping from one table to another would just be messy since you could not follow the action and some great shots may be missed.
 

hang-the-9

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Real problem is that lots and lots of people like golf. Pool not so.

More people play pool than golf, but more people are invested and interested in golf even if they don't play it much. By invested I don't mean just money but their interest and as a following. Similar to baseball or other pro sports, many of the fans never actually play it, but they follow it all the time. There are a lot less hard core pool fans that know the players than in most other sports.
 

hang-the-9

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Hitting a ball with a stick describes a number of sports. The unpopular ones could definitely learn from the popular ones, assuming increasingly popularity is a goal.

If you add in hitting a ball without a stick also, or hitting something with something else (target with an arrow, target with a bullet, etc...) that simple explanation covers a huge number of sports. It would be a good way to explain our culture to aliens.

"Hi, we are from Rigula 7, what is your species like" "We like to hit things with other things" "Ah, yes , we have seen that in many of your "wars" and "sporting activities" how peculiar."

Hm.. now that I think about it, most of the core human activity since our time on the planet can be summed up in two things "lifting (and moving) and hitting". Agriculture, hitting the ground, lifting seeds. Cities, lifting bricks and hitting iron. Trade, lifting of goods and bringing to other places, sometimes hitting those we meet along the way. Heck even our very existence can be summed up in "I'd hit that" that our ancestors must have said about some wench they met in a pub in 1450 AD. Not much more past that LOL
 
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Cuedup

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Not sure if that would work well, there is much less time between shots in a pool tournament and I think hopping from one table to another would just be messy since you could not follow the action and some great shots may be missed.
With about 3 seconds of "action " every <insert whatever random shot clock time of the day> I feel there is some room for increasing the entertainment value.

I don't know what the answer is but I'm certain that to bring in the casual viewer something must be done to make it actually entertaining to watch.
 

Cuedup

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If you add in hitting a ball without a stick also, or hitting something with something else (target with an arrow, target with a bullet, etc...) that simple explanation covers a huge number of sports. It would be a good way to explain our culture to aliens.

"Hi, we are from Rigula 7, what is your species like" "We like to hit things with other things" "Ah, yes , we have seen that in many of your "wars" and "sporting activities" how peculiar."
I think it's genetically engrained to receive satisfaction hitting something with a stick hard. That's typically at odds to success at pool , which is something I point out with other players I'm coaching.
 
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tomatoshooter

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More people play pool than golf, but more people are invested and interested in golf even if they don't play it much.
More people play pool, but, how many play it with a similar level of commitment? I don't know what the relative levels are other than it's a lot easier to stop in a bar and throw some coins in the table than to play a round of golf, so I suspect there may be more very casual pool players. On the other side, it's much easier to get a table in your house and practice every day than to make it out onto the golf course. I'd guess there are more very casual and very serious pool players and golf may have more inactive and semi serious players.
 

MitchAlsup

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Every house I've been in that was on a golf course had a pool table in it.
Almost any property is big enough to have a pool table on it (without also being on other properties)
Almost no property is big enough to have a golf course on it (without also being on other properties)

Ted Turner being the obvious exception.
 
I want the production team who put this together to do a similar video for 9-ball. This looks amazing.

Great Clip. Even though this is only a teaser that's the type of production I'd love to see done with pool here in the US.
 
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Ghost of OBC

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The produced packages folks have referenced are really important to golf coverage and could be for pool.

Player profiles, human interest stuff about the local pool scene, side stories about dead money players, gambling and road stories. Pool as a culture is full of great stories but coverage is totally devoid of storytelling.

I also think leaning into the gambling aspect could help. Fantasy football has been huge for the NFL. Fantasy golf is likewise a benefit. There's no longer a taboo against sports betting. Online Calcutas or fantasy leagues for real or funny money could really drive interest among sports gamblers. It's also a reason to follow matches that aren't the favorites which would be great for the players and sponsors.
 

Island Drive

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Rodney Morris in GA, saw em in WY this year, said he's got a site for pool match betting!
 

KissedOut

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The produced packages folks have referenced are really important to golf coverage and could be for pool.

Player profiles, human interest stuff about the local pool scene, side stories about dead money players, gambling and road stories. Pool as a culture is full of great stories but coverage is totally devoid of storytelling.

I also think leaning into the gambling aspect could help. Fantasy football has been huge for the NFL. Fantasy golf is likewise a benefit. There's no longer a taboo against sports betting. Online Calcutas or fantasy leagues for real or funny money could really drive interest among sports gamblers. It's also a reason to follow matches that aren't the favorites which would be great for the players and sponsors.
Getting an outfit like DraftKings, Fanduel, or one of the online casino sports books as a sponsor might be viable.
 
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