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Totti, I just checked the video link from youtube that you posted. that was an example of the medium stroke and middle of the table draw shot that I was talking about.

check on the final stroke at 1.41 (where the tip of the cue hit the CB). the cueball was hit just below the red marker. eventhough it seemed that he was aiming at the red marker on his practice strokes at first, the final stroke was really below those previous aims. don't get deceived by those initial stroking. if i were to say, the instructor did the opposite to what you had done. from the practice strokes and aim, down to the final execution.

* last, try to loosen your grip inorder to smoothen your stroke. take notice on how the instructor stroked the CB on the final shot (smooth).
 
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TOTTI said:
I DON"T KNOW HOW CAN I THANK YOU
I'll keep your advices in my mind and i'll try again and again .

the problem is that there's no instructor in my town to learn me so i've to learn myself bymyself ...............
and i'll try to find another table to apply draw show on it , if i did it perfectly i'll know that the problem is in my table's CLOTH ..,,..,,..,,..
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Totti,

Where do you live? I am sure that someone that comes here is near you or knows a room or person that is near you.

Dwight
 
Totti, I just checked the video link from youtube that you posted. that was an example of the medium stroke and middle of the table draw shot that I was talking about.

check on the final stroke at 1.41 (where the tip of the cue hit the CB). the cueball was hit just below the red marker.
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NO i mean when he hit the CB by his hand and it's back perfectly . i did id by my hand but the CB roll and stop it doesn't back ?????


Totti,

Where do you live? I am sure that someone that comes here is near you or knows a room or person that is near you.
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I hope so but i don't think so :)
i'm from Saudi Arabia . far away from you :)

REGARDS ... ... ...
 
Well...

Ok people, we have a guy in saudi arabia that needs help with his draw stroke, anyone know who is the closest one to him. Pass it along, let's help this man before he buys all the cloth in the middle east. lol

Dwight
 
Ok people, we have a guy in saudi arabia that needs help with his draw stroke, anyone know who is the closest one to him. Pass it along, let's help this man before he buys all the cloth in the middle east. lol
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:grin:

i asked someone yesterday about my problem , he said that the problem because the floor of my table made of WOOD not MARBLE ???

what do you think ?

and i wanna ask u about tables like Brunswick and Diamond , they made of wood or marble ?
 
italian slate...a type of manufactured rock i think.

i've played on wooden tables before, i can draw fine...just aim lower and snap your wrist...
 
TOTTI...Whoever said that is crazy. The bed of the table (or the cloth) has no bearing on whether or not you can draw the CB. It is ALL about the quality of the stroke! All quality pool tables have a slate bed.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

TOTTI said:
:grin:

i asked someone yesterday about my problem , he said that the problem because the floor of my table made of WOOD not MARBLE ???

what do you think ?

and i wanna ask u about tables like Brunswick and Diamond , they made of wood or marble ?
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thomba02...slate is natural rock, and comes from the Earth (from several places, including Italy, Brazil & China). It is mined in a quarry, and then cut and machined, for use as pool table slates.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

thomba02 said:
italian slate...a type of manufactured rock i think.

i've played on wooden tables before, i can draw fine...just aim lower and snap your wrist...
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TOTTI said:
:grin:

i asked someone yesterday about my problem , he said that the problem because the floor of my table made of WOOD not MARBLE ???

what do you think ?

and i wanna ask u about tables like Brunswick and Diamond , they made of wood or marble ?
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we already saw the video. we pointed out what you did wrong (complete with shot by shot illustration). it is unanimous that you hit the CB wrong. no matter what your table has for a flooring, be it marble, slate, wood, cement, etc... if your fundamentals are lacking, you won't be able to draw just the same. players do mistake of stunning the CB or a draw error on a marble or slate floored table, so what made you think that it is still the table's fault (having wood flooring) that you can't draw?

anyway, no offense but since you always brought this table and cloth thing up everytime, and it seems that you want to conclude or force your own suspicions that it's the table's fault, inspite of what people here told you that it's not. then don't follow our advice, you have your own. buy the table (with a flooring that you think would help you draw a lot) and a new cloth (with what you think that will help you draw a lot), does that solve your problem?


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also get the diamond table with matching centennial balls and cuetec cues by Allison Fisher. I heard with those equiptment, you would be able to draw and be able to beat your dad, 5-1. ---Travis Trotter :thumbup:
 
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But assuming you have good fundamentals, surely the condition of the cloth affects the amount of draw for a given stroke?
 
Hey...at least he did not blame the cue....:rolleyes:

I am not 100% sure but it looks like there may have been a touch of english thrown in with that draw shot...(based on the way the 10-ball rotates)
 
PKM said:
But assuming you have good fundamentals, surely the condition of the cloth affects the amount of draw for a given stroke?
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that's why you need to adjust to how much you need stroke the CB (assuming you have the fundamentals). the problem of the TS is not on how much he has to put on the stroke, but rather how to and where to stroke the CB (fundamental flaw). the CB's (10ball) spin tells a lot from what he did.
 
BRKNRUN said:
Hey...at least he did not blame the cue....:rolleyes:

I am not 100% sure but it looks like there may have been a touch of english thrown in with that draw shot...(based on the way the 10-ball rotates)
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I believe the cue alibi would had been more acceptable. don't you believe the z-shaft can help you draw the CB much easier? :D

seriously speaking, you can't perform a better draw in a z-shaft if you kept on hitting the CB dead center ! :D
 
I think we can all agree, at least in this case, it ain't the arrow...it ain't even the hunting ground.....it's the Indian!!!

Steve
 
pooltchr said:
I think we can all agree, at least in this case, it ain't the arrow...it ain't even the hunting ground.....it's the Indian!!!

Steve
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I believe Totti wanted to perform a full table draw. well, he won't be able to perform that unless he hit the CB at the right spot regardless of what cloth or table flooring he has. if a 9mm tip still doesn't solve his problem, he really needs to work on his aim.
 
Hi again :rolleyes:



I discovered why i can't draw well ..........
the problem is in my cue :embarrassed2:
I bought new cue two weeks ago and i can draw maybe half table :cool:
but i can't draw farther !!!!!!!!

i played on marble table it's really wonderful , there's huge difference between it and my table .................





So i'll not change my table's cloth :D
 
TOTTI said:
Hi again :rolleyes:



I discovered why i can't draw well ..........
the problem is in my cue :embarrassed2:
I bought new cue two weeks ago and i can draw maybe half table :cool:
but i can't draw farther !!!!!!!!

i played on marble table it's really wonderful , there's huge difference between it and my table .................





So i'll not change my table's cloth :D
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congratulations! you have finally figured out why you can't draw that well. but honestly speaking, basing from the video of yourself that you showed us, you really did hit and stroked the CB incorrectly that's why you weren't able to attain a better result.

but if you still insist that it's the equiptment's fault that you can't draw any better, well goodluck to you and avoid playing on equiptments that you think would affect your drawing technique, which is very difficult. :thumbup:

words of wisdom: pool equiptments are just tools, it is up to the user's ability to maximize the pool equipments potential. question is "do you really believe that your ability was able to fully utilize your cue and table's potential?
 
TOTTI said:
Hi again :rolleyes:



I discovered why i can't draw well ..........
the problem is in my cue :embarrassed2:
I bought new cue two weeks ago and i can draw maybe half table :cool:
but i can't draw farther !!!!!!!!

i played on marble table it's really wonderful , there's huge difference between it and my table .................
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some of the best in the world told you EXACTLY why you didn't get the results you expected... and you are still blaming the CLOTH????

you get better draw on new cloth... you get less draw with a heavy cueball...

but if you hit the cue ball correctly you WILL get draw..

learn how to stroke.... or blame the cloth for losing for the rest of your life
 
softshot said:
some of the best in the world told you EXACTLY why you didn't get the results you expected... and you are still blaming the CLOTH????

you get better draw on new cloth... you get less draw with a heavy cueball...

but if you hit the cue ball correctly you WILL get draw..

learn how to stroke.... or blame the cloth for losing for the rest of your life
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with that kind of an excuse, it would take a long time for him to learn how to play pool.

"you adjust to the equiptment, it's not the equiptment that will adjust for you." but it's not just the equiptment, you must also learn how to shoot properly.

man, I don't understand why some people insist that they could draw the CB farther even if they hit it just a few mm below off center. some people are trying too hard to defy physics. oh well, I guess it's all Efren's fault.
 
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