Proper Etiquette

kaznj

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I saw another post about sharing winnings, and I was wondering. If I know player A is a good player and he is likely to beat player B. I don't really know either player personally. I bet on A and win let's say $100. Player A knows I won the money. Do you think I should give some money to A? If yes, how much? I think betting is better than backing because even if you share, you give a smaller piece. Grady says on one of his videos that he never liked to be backed. He didn't want to work hard for someone else to make money. I am not really into gambling, but I will sometimes make a small wager on someone or a ball game.
 
It depends on WHO you placed the bet with. If it was Player B, Player A has a right to be upset if you cut him out of action he was hoping to get. If it was with another rail-bird I say no harm, no foul.
 
kaznj said:
I saw another post about sharing winnings, and I was wondering. If I know player A is a good player and he is likely to beat player B. I don't really know either player personally. I bet on A and win let's say $100. Player A knows I won the money. Do you think I should give some money to A? If yes, how much? I think betting is better than backing because even if you share, you give a smaller piece. Grady says on one of his videos that he never liked to be backed. He didn't want to work hard for someone else to make money. I am not really into gambling, but I will sometimes make a small wager on someone or a ball game.

That person helped you make the money. He deserves a cut. You are essentially backing him in the match, game, whatever.

I don't like to back other players too often. Nor do I like to make side bets. The politics are too much for me. If I'm being backed, we usually have a 50/50 arrangement unless otherwise specified.
 
Should you then give a cut to the LOSER of the match as well, as that person ALSO helped you win your bet, simply by not playing as well? :P
 
Agreed

Drew said:
That person helped you make the money. He deserves a cut. You are essentially backing him in the match, game, whatever.

I don't like to back other players too often. Nor do I like to make side bets. The politics are too much for me. If I'm being backed, we usually have a 50/50 arrangement unless otherwise specified.


I couldn't agree more w/ Drew here. No one is ever obligated to stake someone else in a match. Now, should they offer/agree to staking it, i believe the std. rate should be 50/50 to 60/40, stake getting the 60, since they're taking the full risk of losing the dough...
 
Tip

I do this quite often. If I win any reasonable money ($100+) I will usually tip the player 10% (If he knew I was betting). If I win decent money ($500+) I will tip him whether he had any idea or not. Any less $ and it isn't worth the trouble. I feel as was posted previously, bets with another railbird do not cut into the player's action; therefore, they are not entitled anything. I do like to reward the player for playing well and let them know I might be willing to bet on them again. This might open more opportunities.
 
I agree with the tip. After all, you are being entertained. At least buy the guys a drink. Share the love.
 
seems like a no brainer...

mosconiac said:
It depends on WHO you placed the bet with. If it was Player B, Player A has a right to be upset if you cut him out of action he was hoping to get. If it was with another rail-bird I say no harm, no foul.

I completely agree... Player A gets nothing unless you're betting with Player B.
However, this is dangerous territory... if you bet with Player B... you can never be sure that Player A isn't in cahoots with Player B...

Best to stay away from betting with the Players unless you know them very well...

Even betting with the railbirds has potential conspiracy problems...

Ah.... what the hell do I know.... maybe just paranoid....
 
personally i don't see why you should give any money to the players. as far as i'm aware this seems to be a phenomenon only found in pool and i don't understand it. i agree about buying the lads a drink though, but that's a different issue.

please enlighten me. bear in mind i am from england and we don't have a pool culture or an 'action' culture over here like you do. but in any other situation or sports giving tips to the players is unheard of.
 
worriedbeef said:
but in any other situation or sports giving tips to the players is unheard of.

Yes, but also in other sports you are not nearly as close to the action, nor might your actions affect the outcome of the match (pressure). Most other sports are engaged in by paid professionals, not average joes scraping to make ends meet. I would pretty well go with the original poster here and offer to let the player bet half of your side action with you. This way, you assume he is playing to win and feels confident so and no discussion of splitting. If he rejects the offer to take half, you owe him nothing, but I would buy him a drink.
 
J.A.W.S. BALLS said:
I couldn't agree more w/ Drew here. No one is ever obligated to stake someone else in a match. Now, should they offer/agree to staking it, i believe the std. rate should be 50/50 to 60/40, stake getting the 60, since they're taking the full risk of losing the dough...
Just wondering, if you both put up equal $$ does the non-shooter only get 25% in return, or do you still split 50-50?
 
Misunderstanding Sir/mADAM

buzzsaw said:
Just wondering, if you both put up equal $$ does the non-shooter only get 25% in return, or do you still split 50-50?


I didn't say if we both put up equal $$ does the non-shooter only get 25% in return. I sd, if one, who is never 'obligated' to stake another...etc...that's not putting up equal amounts of $$. That's getting staked. If you'd like me to explain, imho, what staking someone consists of, (which I kind of already did in my original post) I'll gladly do that in another thread. Thanks, and sorry for the misunderstanding.
 
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