Proper snooker cues.

predator said:
I see snooker players sometimes shooting pool with snooker cues or some modified snooker cues with fatter shafts. Do you think they do this to show off? No. I think they simply can't shoot better with a pool cue.
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I've tried pool cues a couple of times, even used on an American pool table
i felt about as comfortable as i imagine i would wearing high heels.
As the american tables have grown in popularity over here in recent years and are no longer the rarity they once were I've wanted to play it more, not wanting to use a snooker cue though as mine are mere 9mm tipped and as all house cues are merely reclaimed from november 5th bonfires I've bought a maple Riley Tombstone, a vintage billiards cue no newer than the early 50's with it's thicker butt billiards cue taper and 11mm tip it seems perfect for American pool being played by this snooker player.
 
Sweet looking cues mate. I love my Dufferin but will upgrade one day. I need to concentrate on getting a snooker table first. That's in the near future.
 
I agree that some cheap cues, especially sneakys made from good wood, play just as well as some of the more expensive ones, but there is a much greater chance of it being a complete piece of crap as well.

I've never played with a high end snooker cue, but I've hit a few Dufferins that played great.

I actually owned a cheap British snooker cue and thought it felt horrible; I was better off with a pool cue. I'm sure there are some quality makers out there, the cues on this thread are gorgeous.

Americans seem to mostly know the Parris name.
 
pred willie hoppe le-good evening

Gabica from the phillippines wants 1200. $ for a custom Parris.(New with 12.5 shafts) I can run consistant 40+ with the New pred Willie Hoppe.(Unilock joint) I run 50's with Mcdermott b model shafts, on Ernie Martinez Hustler(3/8-10). My Phillippi playes snooker very well to it is 59",I like the extra length as well.5/16-14) The key is a stroke . On another topic they said spin had nothing to do with tip size.((Parick Johnson offered 100.$ for proof of any difference with a low deflection shaft ) I even use the Pro Cup cue ball( Larger) to play snooker. 5-10 brunswick mark
 
average players wont prob notice much difference when swapping cue as other things effect their game too much, but to play great snooker you need a snooker cue just like to play great pool you need a pool cue, you can still play pool with a snooker cue but it is harder and in the long run you will miss more shots because of the cue. same applies to snooker with a pool cue

parris used to do the work on my cues for free and gave me the one i used for a long time but i prefer maple and he struggles to get great wood these days as do most cue makers. i always felt his cue were too solid for me, i used a snooker cue made in thailand for most of my career it plays great as good as any parris i also bought 10 more to bring back from there and everysingle one was awesome. and good enough to play perfect with most of the other mass produced english cue brands play like crap.

dufferins play very close to any top snooker cue and a pro could play close to 95% or more with a good one so for most normal players it is fine. the optimine tip size for a pool player would be 10mm poss 9.5anything smaller and you will have problems putting unintentional side on the cue ball. you can get away with it but in the long run its just making it harder for your self. once you get up to 11mm your losing the abiltity to consistantly play all the shots but plain ball stuff is still easy i imagine with an 11mm tip you can only play 85% shots. bigger tips feel good at first as there is alot or margin for error but you lose the feel and power you need. and if your playing alot of snooker you will get more enjoyment with a good performing cue one suggestion is poss stick with maple as it will be easier to switch back and forth from your pool cue.

if anyones interested my snooker cue is sitting in case id sell it happily you dont even have to practise it almost self aims lol i also have a replica spare too
 
Great info on tip size, chamillionaire.

Whats the brand name or maker of your cues from Thailand? If a player of your caliber likes them, it would be worth looking into.
 
Probably mastercue or O min. Unique cues are methinks a newcomer on the Thai cue scene.

Thai cues usually are very good and far cheaper as is anything made by people earning 1/10th of their western counterpart.

I've a gorgeous Thai cue, the craftsman ultimate, http://www.craftsmancues.com/acatalog/Craftsman_Classic_cues.html
The classic range are made in Thailand and finished in Leeds.
Tight staight grain, 5 clear sharp v's almost perfect even splices and about 300 quid less than it's English counterpart. Doesn't help me play any better, but just holding a classy looking cue makes me feel on top of my game.

Kinda like that feeling you get when you've just had a shave after a week off.
 
bac english snooker 2pc

I did use a proper snooker bac english snooker cue, it was just sitting in the corner of the spray booth-much stiffer,pin in the shaft,spliced ebony with the wedge handle.Ivory joint collar.2 equal parts. Short taper,10mm. The cue made the game much easier. Its been over 30 years since I used the snooker cue.56 1/2 length,ash cue. It definetly had more power than the pool cue, mark
 
bud green said:
Great info on tip size, chamillionaire.

Whats the brand name or maker of your cues from Thailand? If a player of your caliber likes them, it would be worth looking into.
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i just looked and it is called a bermoz prob not made any more, a thai customer that used to come into my pool room about 10 years ago made me 2 custom one's. it is nothing special to look at just a 3 quarter maple and ebony with extendable extension but plays pretty nice. i think he was importing into australia at one stage but it could even be made by one of the bigger thai companies but just rebadged.

parris did some wrok on mine and put his badge on it at one point. all of the thai cues mentioned before in my opinion play better than parris cues, i havent played for 3 or 4 years but i always found that parris cues off the rack play too solid with not alot of feedback. most pro's cues are either custom parris or he has done alot of work on them. i would order some of the thai one's the craftmanship is top notch but they feel play the best out of all the cue's i used when i was a pro. most top players dont go for all the fancy inlays as there more interested in how it plays,
but some of those cues from ultimate look pretty hot, wity mentioned omin and master i remember i bought around 10 of those many years ago when i called into there shop in bangkok just because i was so impressed with how they played
 
"parris did some work on mine and put his badge on it at one point."
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lol he has a habit of doing that i hear, then throws his rattle from his pram when the chinese do the same. :D
 
white

Those are great looking cues, any idea of ballpark price?

It would be a great cue to get, not sure im ready to give up the convience of my 1/2 cue for a 3/4 again.
 
Wity...........................whats up?? Why are you selling your Trevor?

Its a nice looking cue.

Mike
 
All because of a rubber wine bottle cork.

Sounds daft but its true.

I bought it 2nd hand and it had no butt joint, The seller lived near Trevor and so it was agreed he'd deliver it there so Trevor could fit a butt joint and make me a mini butt. I sent the money to Trevor to pay him and he posted the cue on to me when done.

Thing is i've always played with cues around the 18 oz mark, this one was 20oz without the butt joint and i thought i'd cope as i play ok with my sons 19 oz cue. Trevor added the butt joint weighing 1/2 oz and drilled out a bit more but it still ended up at 20 oz. Anyways as i have done loads of times with my cues I took a rubber wine bottle cork and shaped it to just push / pull out of the butt to protect the wood, and i started playing with it.

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It really was a battle for me to get used to it's weight and i said i'd give it till this xmas wherby i'd sell it if i was still struggling. After a couple of weeks though i pulled out the plug to attatch the mini butt and the rubber broke leaving the stem in the butt. I tried to remove it with a needle then a nail then a screwdriver but doing so i realised Trevors butt joints are open ended as I only managed to push the stem fully inside the butt. Which by now had a whopping 7" drilled out of it. Eventually i ended up with a small screw in the top of a biro insert the head of which was araldited to a watchmakers screwdriver and the ballpoint end had a blob of blue tack on it in the hope of it sticking to the rubber so i could extract it.

All I succeeded in doing was to bend the bloody biro insert and having the lot stuck inside.

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Stop laughing this is a true story. :P


Ok so it rattled a bit but that did not bother me really and round about november i was used to it and played just as badly as i do with any cue, when i decided to send it back to Trevor who had offered to remove the butt joint and get it out for me.

I told him i was in no hurry and expected it to be a while especially with him being so busy with xmas orders but not playing with it for some weeks when i got it back it was totally alien to me again and I just dont fancy getting used to it all over again. It wasn't so bad the first time as i mainly play against my son and beat him but he's improved no end.

Bugger was standing at 6 frames up to my 1 two weeks ago and started taking the piss offering me a 20 start so I said "put your money where your mouth is" and grabbed hold of my 18 oz cue and whipped his arse in the last frame playing for a couple of quid it was the only way i could save any face.

That settled it really, The Tender Woman had to go.

(Tender woman.. (from Al Wilson's song The Snake )

The full story....http://www.thesnookerforum.com/board/showthread.php?t=12907&highlight=biro+insert
 
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LMAO!! Sorry, but when you said stop laughing its true...................that was point I was laughing!!

Funny how things work some time.........it is a beautiful cue though.

Trevor e-mailed and said mine should be done soon, he is waiting on butt jonts or something from Germany.

I will post picks once they are available!

Mike
 
...he is waiting on butt jonts or something from Germany.
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That explains why they are open ended then, they are bloody Jerry built !!! I shall pull his leg about that no doubt.

(Dunno if you understand the phrase but pow's during the war were put to work on many a building site hence "Jerry Built" is synomonous with poor quality in the uk amongst the older generation.)

(Much like BMW Porche Mercedes etc gimme an Austin A40 anyday.:D :lying through my teeth:
 
Nice looking cues.
I prefer maple cues and so I don't have to use two different cues to play both games I made a couple of matching shafts, 10mm & 12mm.
I used some old growth maple, linen ferrules. moori soft on the 10mm and a medium on the 12mm, the hit is really nice and the adjustment between games is easy.

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