Pro's Cues And Their Influence

How much influence does a pro have on your future cue buying choice? In golf, there's tremendous influence and some of the bigger name pro's are paid 8-10 million dollars A YEAR to play a specific brand name club in order to affect buying habits. Of the following, which one will have you placing an order within the next year for their cue?

Efren - Judd
Dueul - Woodpecker (forgot the cuemaker) Jacoby? Josey?
Jeanette Lee - Jacoby
Archer - Scorpion
Allison - Cuetec
Strickland - Cuetec
Corr - Falcon
McCready - Hunter or Willee Cue
Immonen - Mezz
Souquet - Joss
Williams - Predator
Sambajon - PFD
Grady - Bludworth
Any Others - ?
 
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None of the above. I don't choose what I want based on what I see others using. I'm sure there are many out there that do, but it's not for me. I guess I don't fall into the marketing hype.

I've heard that the endorsement for Tiger Woods from Titleist was worth over $10M. I wonder what Nike is now paying....
 
None for me. I've always like trying cues and finding out if I like them, but thats based on appearance on a crazy to desire to own the best hitting cue I can.


I wonder what the low and mid end pros shoot with, probably based more on hit than dollars.
 
If you're going to buy an inexpensive cue, I'd think that seeing Allison so often swinging hers (and Earl, too, just not as often), would make CueTech a good choice. I bought a jump/break CueTech when I needed a quick cue one day. I'm sure Earl's and Allison's use of them influenced my decision. I thought, how bad could they be? And, if I didn't like it, I wasn't out that much.

A friend of mine was standing in line trying to get an autograph from Earl. Some guy behind him in line said, "Here I'm holding a $1000 cue and Earl wins this tournament with a $200 stick...that can't be a real CueTech, he must have had it "tuned up." So there's the credibility factor, too. Does someone who fails to call a foul on himself make a good rep for a cue company?

Jeff Livingston
 
drivermaker said:
...Any Others?

Mike Zuglan-Joss
Danny Basavich-"Kid Delicious" Custom Cue
Buddy Hall-Lucasi
Niels Feijan-Longini
Fabio Petrono-Longini
Rodney Morris-Szamboti
Alex Pagulayan-Schon
Charlie Bryant-Jerry Oliver
Mike Davis-Eddie Anderson (Mechanicsburg, PA)
Shannon Daulton-South East Cues
Bobby Pickle-South East Custom
Pookie-Cognoscenti
Larry Nevel-Reese Cues (South Carolina)
Allen Hopkins-Black Boar
Ryan McCreesh-Predator
George San Souci-Ted Harris Custom Cues

Another category: Break Cues

Sledgehammer
Predator

Any others? :confused:

JAM
 
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drivermaker said:
How much influence does a pro have on your future cue buying choice? In golf, there's tremendous influence and some of the bigger name pro's are paid 8-10 million dollars A YEAR to play a specific brand name club in order to affect buying habits.

Hey, Driverdude, hope everything's good by you.

Ignoring the fact that golf has a higher profile than pool for a moment, there are several reasons for this. Amont the most overlooked reasons is that golf club technology is a fast evolving science, and the fact that the pros all seem to hit it further than they used to seems to, very visibly, corroborate that the equipment in golf is improving continually and significantly. Buying a new set of clubs every two years is typical of even typical weekend players at all skill levels. As a good set of clubs costs about $1,000 these days, all these golfers spend $500 a year on equipment (and probably as much on golf balls). Nobody in their right mind believes that cuestick technology is a rapidly evolving science in which the equipment being made today is clearly superior to that of yesterday, and that the equipment made two years from now will be indisputably better than that of today.

Perhaps Predator was the last to have some success convincing players that their shafts represented an important advance in the science of cuemaking, but I think that was a big, though obviously well-marketed, hoax, and I am not of the opinion that the advent of the Predator shaft has contributed anything of importance to the evolution of pool equipment.

On the forum, we like to reminisce about how the cuemakers of yesteryear, such as George Balabushka and Gus Szamboti, were the best ever, and yes, guys like George and Gus deserve their legendary status. Still, tell me about a golf club maker of the past held in similar regard. You can't because the club makers of yesteryear didn't make equipment as good as that of today.

... and that's why, when I visit my dear old dad, I love to hit a few balls with his Palmer cue which he bought in the mid 1960's, but feel no particular urge to hit the links with the Spalding golf clubs he used back then.
 
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Rude Dog said:
Hey, the little guy just moved up a notch on my favorite player list. :D

Alex uses a schon with a predator shaft. Not sure if that moves him back down on you list, lol...

-Roger
 
buddha162 said:
Alex uses a schon with a predator shaft. Not sure if that moves him back down on you list, lol...

-Roger



How many other Pro use different or custom made shafts on their cues? I've heard several different stories about this and I really don't know what to believe anymore.

I've heard that Allison uses a Cuetec with a custom shaft, but continues to promote the cue as Cuetec only. True? I don't know. Can anyone elighten me a little about this?

Thanks.
 
ChuckPorter said:
I've heard that Allison uses a Cuetec with a custom shaft, but continues to promote the cue as Cuetec only. True? I don't know. Can anyone elighten me a little about this?

Thanks.

I'm pretty sure most pros that endorse a certain cue mfg use a different shaft other than "stock".
 
drivermaker said:
How much influence does a pro have on your future cue buying choice? In golf, there's tremendous influence and some of the bigger name pro's are paid 8-10 million dollars A YEAR to play a specific brand name club in order to affect buying habits. Of the following, which one will have you placing an order within the next year for their cue?

Efren - Judd
Dueul - Woodpecker (forgot the cuemaker) Jacoby? Josey?
Jeanette Lee - Jacoby
Archer - Scorpion
Allison - Cuetec
Strickland - Cuetec
Corr - Falcon
McCready - Hunter or Willee Cue
Immonen - Mezz
Souquet - Joss
Williams - Predator
Sambajon - PFD
Grady - Bludworth
Any Others - ?

well honestly, i am being slightly influenced......since i've seen reyes's judd i'm going to make it a point to hit with one very soon. if i like it i may be ordering one. anyone here own a judd??? i'd like to see a review if possible.

i'm surprised that the mcdermott shafts haven't started showing up in the hands of pro players.

i noticed that jam said rodney morris is shooting with a szamboti, i never looked at it up close, i just always thought it was a capone since he was sponsored by capones. she's right i'm sure, i just found it weird that he was sponsored by a cue maker but used another cue.

thanks
 
vapoolplayer said:
well honestly, i am being slightly influenced......since i've seen reyes's judd i'm going to make it a point to hit with one very soon. if i like it i may be ordering one. anyone here own a judd??? i'd like to see a review if possible.

i'm surprised that the mcdermott shafts haven't started showing up in the hands of pro players.

i noticed that jam said rodney morris is shooting with a szamboti, i never looked at it up close, i just always thought it was a capone since he was sponsored by capones. she's right i'm sure, i just found it weird that he was sponsored by a cue maker but used another cue.

thanks

Rodney Morris is sponsored by Capone's a pool hall (in Florida I think) so is Robb Saez, not Mike Capone the cuemaker from Jersey. I have seen Rodney's Szamboti in person and it is awesome.
 
1-pocket-player said:
Rodney Morris is sponsored by Capone's a pool hall (in Florida I think) so is Robb Saez, not Mike Capone the cuemaker from Jersey. I have seen Rodney's Szamboti in person and it is awesome.


ok, gotcha, my mistake. everytime i see him play, i'm staring at that cue. has anyone hit with it? i've never hit with one, and what price range is szamboti?

thanks
 
1-pocket-player said:
Rodney Morris is sponsored by Capone's a pool hall (in Florida I think) so is Robb Saez, not Mike Capone the cuemaker from Jersey. I have seen Rodney's Szamboti in person and it is awesome.


I thought he was under an endorsement deal with Fury. Did that fizzle?
 
drivermaker said:
Do you think he's endorsing the product very well then if he's using another cue, especially if they're paying him?

no i don't. if you're endorsing a product........you would think they would use it. i just know at the fury amatuer tour this month, they listed his name on team fury.

as a consumer, imo, i would think twice before buying a product that the endorsing player doesn't even use.
 
Allison told me, as did Janet Shimel, that she uses an "Off The Shelf" Cuetec Cue. if she didnt, they could be sued for false advertising.

however, i've been told by other reliable sources that the shafts are not completely stock on Earl's Cuetec, and possibly Allison's. but Allison's shaft did look like a Cuetec Shaft in Vegas at the BCA in '02.

who knows.

but the next cue i intend on buying is a Jacoby. hopefully will have it ordered once the tax refunds are determined. and no professional has had much of an influence on my decision to buy a Jacoby either.

DCP
 
JAM said:
Mike Zuglan-Joss
Danny Basavich-"Kid Delicious" Custom Cue
Buddy Hall-Lucasi
Niels Feijan-Longini
Fabio Petrono-Longini
Rodney Morris-Szamboti
Alex Pagulayan-Schon
Charlie Bryant-Jerry Oliver
Mike Davis-Eddie Anderson (Mechanicsburg, PA)
Shannon Daulton-South East Cues
Bobby Pickle-South East Custom
Pookie-Cognoscenti
Larry Nevel-Reese Cues (South Carolina)
Allen Hopkins-Black Boar
Ryan McCreesh-Predator
George San Souci-Ted Harris Custom Cues

Another category: Break Cues

Sledgehammer
Predator

Any others? :confused:

JAM

Jam,
Buddy Hall played with a South East cue at the 2004 US Open. I was surprised to see that since he'd been sponsored by Lucasi for a couple of years. Maybe his deal with Lucasi ran out.

SCCues
 
This is my choice !!!

I know alot of people don't agree but I just love my Dale Perry cues. He has built me a few and I love every one. I also have a Ted Harris cue, and it's AWESOME !!!
 
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