Putting a Predator or OB-1 Shaft on custom?
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What do you know?Sheldon said:Hey Dick, try not to confuse us with facts, ok?
You are just a custom cuemaker.
I heard you invented the balsa wood ferrule tenon with teflon ferrule.
BPG24 said:
Yeah, I'm not the only one with english problem. Or are you refering to more idiots like me out there?
Just to let you know English is my third spoken language. Very unfortunate.
BPG24 said:
I think you are the one the earn that title in post #110.
I'm be glad to accept the title as Ignorant Jr.
BPG24 said:
Bashing cuemaker?
No, but I would say....DISRESPECTING cuemaker opinion and other Az Senior member e.g. Lisa.
I learn alot from this people when I first started out here. I like to hear cuemaker opinions and as well as other . They do not need any test or fact. We do not need those from them. I accept what is given in the post and threads. I would try them out if possible. Believing in them, I would also buy cue with different wood. Believe me or not, Joey once stated that he got a cue without any ferrules(not the one stated here, in the other forum), i actually tested one with my cue... with no ferrule. Like many other thing, if it doesn't work for me, I move on. You don't simply come here and challenge the cuemaker with some proven fact and/or ask them to accept your opinion/fact. These cuemakers have years of experience under their belt. Some of them learn from the best or even legend cuemaker around. They have learned alot from great player while doing cues for them and offering them for free here. How better than that can it get?
I love to hear more opinion and many other things from them here in the future to come. But to have people like you coming and showing/challenging, how a product is more superior to theirs', you simply are making this "Ask the Cuemaker" section die in the process. Why? In the near future, no cuemaker will dare share their opinion(not fact) on board this forums. I do not allow that. My action here clearly has an objective when you started out your fiasco.
What ever argument or wrong saying I posted and offended you in anyway, which I think I have in many ways and intended purposely, I would like to sincerely apologize to you.
PEACE bro...
BPG24
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icem3n said:Yeah, I'm not the only one with english problem. Or are you refering to more idiots like me out there?
Just to let you know English is my third spoken language. Very unfortunate.
I think you are the one the earn that title in post #110.
I'm be glad to accept the title as Ignorant Jr.
Bashing cuemaker?
No, but I would say....DISRESPECTING cuemaker opinion and other Az Senior member e.g. Lisa.
I learn alot from this people when I first started out here. I like to hear cuemaker opinions and as well as other . They do not need any test or fact. We do not need those from them. I accept what is given in the post and threads. I would try them out if possible. Believing in them, I would also buy cue with different wood. Believe me or not, Joey once stated that he got a cue without any ferrules(not the one stated here, in the other forum), i actually tested one with my cue... with no ferrule. Like many other thing, if it doesn't work for me, I move on. You don't simply come here and challenge the cuemaker with some proven fact and/or ask them to accept your opinion/fact. These cuemakers have years of experience under their belt. Some of them learn from the best or even legend cuemaker around. They have learned alot from great player while doing cues for them and offering them for free here. How better than that can it get?
I love to hear more opinion and many other things from them here in the future to come. But to have people like you coming and showing/challenging, how a product is more superior to theirs', you simply are making this "Ask the Cuemaker" section die in the process. Why? In the near future, no cuemaker will dare share their opinion(not fact) on board this forums. I do not allow that. My action here clearly has an objective when you started out your fiasco.
What ever argument or wrong saying I posted and offended you in anyway, which I think I have in many ways and intended purposely, I would like to sincerely apologize to you.
PEACE bro...
I don't know what planet you are from, but common sense obviously does not exist there... You accuse me of bashing cue makers, which I most certainly did not do. Then you turn around a bash Dick Neighbors, who is a cue maker. What in the world were you thinking? I guess you weren't
You have misunderstood almost every post by me, taking what I say and trying to turn it into something that it's not. I noticed this several pages back, which is why I asked you to stop responding to me. You refused to do so, and I had to call you out for being ignorant. YOU are ignorant by the very definition of the word. Go look it up.
To top it off, you call me ignorant when all I have done is prove you wrong, then you apologize in the same post. What a joke you are.
As for Lisa, she had no answers for my last 2 or 3 posts to her. Maybe in the world you are from, being a member of an internet forum the longest means something. Here it means you have been a member longer and nothing else, she has been wrong at least twice in this thread that I have noticed, both times I responded to her with no return answer.
The fact remains, until you prove that the current tests on deflection are wrong, you have no argument.
Until you can read and understand English, (which you obviously struggle with) please stop bothering me.
dave sutton
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my shaft didnt change weight from the ferrule change. was and still is 4.2 oz
also if you can feel the difference between 4.1 and 4.2 or 4.2 and 4.3 your the most amazing man on earth. you should have your own t.v. show
also if you can feel the difference between 4.1 and 4.2 or 4.2 and 4.3 your the most amazing man on earth. you should have your own t.v. show
it isn't that you will feel the difference.it is the difference in deflection and squirt and all that stuff.as far as i can tell a gram or maybe less will make a difference if it is a difference in the end mass.something that wouldn't even register on your scale(unless you are weighing something illegal)could make a difference in deflection.it is like putting light weight whells and tires on a race car.if you reduce the unsprung weight(outside the suspension and including suspension) by say 50 lbs.the cars performance will improve dramatically.they say 50lbs unsprung is like 300lbs sprung.on the other hand if you reduce the weight by removing the spare tire(sprung weight) you will not feel a thing.i guarantee that adding a Maple tenon 1" and using ivory instead of titan or whatever plastic they used before increased your end mass by a little,therefore increasing the deflection.it is common sense.
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dave sutton
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if there was a change it is undetectable. ive played with this shaft for months now. if you didnt tell me it was changed and i didnt see it, i wouldnt know. still preforms like a predator. like i said i made a maple shaft with ivory ferrule at the same time and i struggle to pocket balls. then i put the predator on and fall right back into line.
still a huge difference
still a huge difference
dave sutton
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yea.. i love my predator and i love a good maple with ivory but not both. if i play with one i cant play with the other. ball just doesnt go where i think it should
i can play equally with either just have to be focused on only one
i can play equally with either just have to be focused on only one
BPG24
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Maybe Mason can use common sense to explain why we can tell a huge difference between a stock Predator and a standard maple shaft, but we can also tell a huge difference between a correctly modified Predator and a standard maple shaft...
Both ways the Predator has less deflection.... Since you seem to understand it so well, please do explain
Maybe the construction of the shaft has more to do with it than some of us think
Both ways the Predator has less deflection.... Since you seem to understand it so well, please do explain
Maybe the construction of the shaft has more to do with it than some of us think
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Because it's still has 4 inches of hole below the ferrule.BPG24 said:
When you apply sidespin on the cueball, the faster that tip deflects off the cueball the LESS the cueball will deflect off the tip.
Standard maple or laminated , it doesn't matter. The faster that tip deflects off the cueball, you know the rest.
Then there are some people like Efren who use backhand english. Push the ball towards the spin side not away from it. But, does another can of worms worth at least 20 pages.
Only enough for the tenon I bet.BPG24 said:
Usually three times the size of the hole.
I've had it done where the hole was plugged up about an inch the 3/4 long by 5/16 18 tenon came out for a melamine ferrule. It shot more solid but it sure did change the cueball squirt A LOT.
BPG24 lighten up man,there is no reason to attack me.i already explained it.i never said the deflection would be the same as a Maple shaft.all i said was,to Dave,that i bet the deflection of that shaft increased,maybe not enough to feel,but increased nonetheless.it is getting tough to even express an opinion in this thread and i thought this thread was opinion based.i guess i will stay out of it.
Yes get out of here.masonh said:
Get me some micarta ferrules.
Got my cnc taper machine lined up but it's too late to make cuts here.
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