putting precious stones in a cue design

turquoisecrazy said:
Deroo always uses fake diamond(plastic crystal), with fake ivory(plastic, or mammoth), and a fake predator shaft(illegal patent violation), with an extension design he stole from someone else. O, and joints he bought from Falcon, with designs he stole from pechauer, and other cue makers.

What do you mean why use diamond? I will never give a fake diamond ring to the woman I love, or buy anything fake because fake is cheap, that is why. I guess if you deal with Deroo cues, you do not have the appreciation for something original and authetic obviously.

Dont go for the fake cheap stuff, leave that to some cheap cue makers like Deroo, and scam cue dealers like Donald duck.

You can put the diamond at the tip end of the points, that would look very nice, perhaps with an ivory border. Is the ring platinum/white gold? You can have the diamond inlays surrounded by the white gold/platinum rings, or with inlays made with that material.

Since they are pretty small in size, it would not look too loud. Besides, diamond is supposed to look elegant and classy (except fake plastic diamond used by Deroo).

Or may be you can make a bushka ring at the A joint with the diamond. That way, you do not have to worry about not having other ings on the cue to match with the diamond rings.
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You know what, Turquoise crazy? I didn't know you were a jerk. I knew you were a little off-center...which is OK, we all are. I had no idea that you were a jerk, though. What was the purpose for this attack? What do you stand to gain from this? If you don't have something to contribute to a discussion, then please just stay out of it entirely. If the only thing you have to say is something bad about someone else, then you obviously don't have much to say. This was a discussion about adding gemstones to a cue, then you chose to hijack it and turn it into personal assaults against someone you don't even know. YOU want to tell someone else about CLASS? Give me a break...you apparently wouldn't know class if it bit you on the ass.
 
sheldon's cue

cue looks super, sheldon,,,can you tell us how the stones were finished,,,were they filled in with clear or were they raised and exposed ?
 
hey that looks nice sheldon

would there be a way to cut a channel in the cue and then to fill in the diamonds and some type of clear substance to let the light in? For example maybe a 1/4 inch deep chanel all the way around the cue, then fill it in with some type of epoxy and put the diamonds in the chanel with it, then a layer of sealant over top of that? Or some type of light colored reflective material in the chanel, i guess thats what platinum settings are supposed to do? I dont know, the more i think about this the more i wonder if this is going to be too gaudy.

my other option like i said would be to do a combination of the gold and the diamonds on the butt cap in some type of design of my initials STP, that could be something small and cool but not supernoticeable. WOuld that be doable?
 
scottycoyote said:
hey that looks nice sheldon

would there be a way to cut a channel in the cue and then to fill in the diamonds and some type of clear substance to let the light in? For example maybe a 1/4 inch deep chanel all the way around the cue, then fill it in with some type of epoxy and put the diamonds in the chanel with it, then a layer of sealant over top of that? Or some type of light colored reflective material in the chanel, i guess thats what platinum settings are supposed to do? I dont know, the more i think about this the more i wonder if this is going to be too gaudy.

my other option like i said would be to do a combination of the gold and the diamonds on the butt cap in some type of design of my initials STP, that could be something small and cool but not supernoticeable. WOuld that be doable?
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I think stones in a cue look good if it's not overdone. If they are set in some sort of bezel, they look better. If they are just set into the wood or Ivory, to me they sort of just look like pieces of glass. I have cue being built now that will have a gold diamond-shaped bezel in the Ivory buttplate with 3/4 kt ruby set in it. The bezel is sized to match diamond shaped Ivory inlays in the points and butt sleeve. It's relatively expensive, though...between buying the stone and having a jeweler make the bezel and set the stone I have close to $1,000.00 in the stone and bezel. I had him radius the bezel to match the radius of the buttplate so the cuemaker can just set it flush after the cue is mostly finished and he'll have very little work to do on the gold. The stone will be flush with the surface of the buttplate. I had the jeweler cut a small groove all the way around the sides of the bezel so when the cuemaker sets it in the channel, the glue will have some purchase on the sides of the bezel.
 
Jack Flanagan said:
cue looks super, sheldon,,,can you tell us how the stones were finished,,,were they filled in with clear or were they raised and exposed ?
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I set the stones *just* below the surface of the cue, so that the finish sealed them in.
 
Actually, looking at the photo that Sheldon posted, the Ivory sort of serves the same purpose as the bezel. It allows the light to reflect back up through the stone so you can see the facets. That looks good, too.
 
scottycoyote said:
would there be a way to cut a channel in the cue and then to fill in the diamonds and some type of clear substance to let the light in? For example maybe a 1/4 inch deep chanel all the way around the cue, then fill it in with some type of epoxy and put the diamonds in the chanel with it, then a layer of sealant over top of that? Or some type of light colored reflective material in the chanel, i guess thats what platinum settings are supposed to do? I dont know, the more i think about this the more i wonder if this is going to be too gaudy.
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That would be pretty hard, especially with small stones. Getting them all to sit straight might prove challenging.
my other option like i said would be to do a combination of the gold and the diamonds on the butt cap in some type of design of my initials STP, that could be something small and cool but not supernoticeable. WOuld that be doable?
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I suppose so, If you can come up with a design I can give you some ideas on how it might be done. :)
 
Sheldon said:
That would be pretty hard, especially with small stones. Getting them all to sit straight might prove challenging.


I suppose so, If you can come up with a design I can give you some ideas on how it might be done. :)
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What ever you do, trust me, do not buy a Deroo...
 
Nice work sheldon,

Is It posible that the color of the bottom of the pocket for the stone could enhance the color or brilliance of the stone once in the cue? does the finish over the stone seem to effect them any?

The way the white only borders the top of that floater also draws My interest. pretty slick looking
 
Sheldon that looked great. Does anyone know if anyone has experimented with Amber? I have some and I know it looks great matched up with birdseye and several other woods. I was wondering though if it is too soft. Any help out there.
 
I have inlayed several types of stones over the past few months. I always set them in silver bezels. I prefer to only use the best materials in my cues, That being said. I think the zirconia's look the best when finished. They are very brilliant when compaired to sapphires (spelling?) or diamonds. In the cues that I am building the zirconia's are the best material to use based on looks. They arent as valuable as diamonds, But I think they look better. The whole point of the stones is to add a little flash. My 2 cents.
The best materials to use are the ones you want your cue made of, Who cares what everyone else likes. Why have a custom cue if it looks like everyone elses. Chris.
 
hey gerald that sounds interesting.....id really like to see that when you get it done....if you get a chance could you snap a pic of it before it gets put on the cue, then maybe one after?
My only problem would be finding a jewler i knew and trusted to do that for me.

sheldon i see your point....as far as getting the stones into the epoxy and even, etc

i do have a couple of ideas for my initials, ill try to get them drawn up and id appreciate your thoughts.....just wondering if you ever do titleist conversions? the more i think about it the more im liking the logo on the butt.......im bidding on a blue book of cues, maybe ill get some ideas from that if i win it.
 
scottycoyote said:
hey gerald that sounds interesting.....id really like to see that when you get it done....if you get a chance could you snap a pic of it before it gets put on the cue, then maybe one after?
My only problem would be finding a jewler i knew and trusted to do that for me.

sheldon i see your point....as far as getting the stones into the epoxy and even, etc

i do have a couple of ideas for my initials, ill try to get them drawn up and id appreciate your thoughts.....just wondering if you ever do titleist conversions? the more i think about it the more im liking the logo on the butt.......im bidding on a blue book of cues, maybe ill get some ideas from that if i win it.
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Chris Hightower has done a lot of works with stones, have you talked to him?
 
Cue Crazy said:
Is It posible that the color of the bottom of the pocket for the stone could enhance the color or brilliance of the stone once in the cue? does the finish over the stone seem to effect them any?
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I can't really say on the color question, I have only done stones in that one cue.
The way the white only borders the top of that floater also draws My interest. pretty slick looking
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Thanks! Took me a little bit of experimenting, but wasn't too difficult once I figured out how to do it.
I am usually pretty BAD at coming up with designs, but once in a while I stumble onto something. :eek:
 
> In a long conversation with Blud's son Donald while he was working for SouthEast cues,he said that one of the real challenges of inlaying stones like rubies and diamonds is how to install them without them falling out,getting knocked out of place,coming loose and causing a buzz,and getting finish to stick to them. No glue known to man will stick to a diamond,even on a large flat surface,which means mounting them requires either a prong type mounting,like a wedding ring,or making a small tube-type bezel,countersinking it,inserting the stone and crimping it in place,all without damaging it. The work he showed me on some 25-50k collectors cues was worthy of DeBeers Jewelers,but admitted that the cues had some hush-hush type stuff done to them as far as applying the finish. Didn't Jim Rempe's old Crown Jewels cue have 2 2 carat diamonds in it,one on each side of the cue in the top of the crown? Does anyone have quality pics of that cue? Tommy D.
 
Would it be feasible to first place the stones and set in a clear casting resin and then after hardening, cut the resin in a more traditional shape such as square or round to fit your inlay pocket? I've seen the casting resin dyed to simulate Ivory and then used for inlays on gun stocks. I even used the casting resin to simulate MOP in an old junk cue I was refinishing for a friend. The difference was barely noticable. I'm thinking somewhere along the lines of the Dufferin logo/window on the butt of their cues. Just a thought.
 
scottycoyote said:
hey gerald that sounds interesting.....id really like to see that when you get it done....if you get a chance could you snap a pic of it before it gets put on the cue, then maybe one after?
My only problem would be finding a jewler i knew and trusted to do that for me.

sheldon i see your point....as far as getting the stones into the epoxy and even, etc

i do have a couple of ideas for my initials, ill try to get them drawn up and id appreciate your thoughts.....just wondering if you ever do titleist conversions? the more i think about it the more im liking the logo on the butt.......im bidding on a blue book of cues, maybe ill get some ideas from that if i win it.
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Sure, I'll try to get some pics before and after. The after shots may take a little time...Danny doesn't really get in a big hurry building cues. :) He has the bezel and ruby now, so I'll have to go to his shop to get pictures.
 
Gerald,

Danny Tibbits is someone I have heard a lot about. Unfortunately, I have not really played with any of his cues. Could you showed me a picture when you have the time, please?
Also, how is the hit--is it on the stiff side? Is there some unique feature(s) which serve(s) to act as a trade mark of his cues? (things such as the flared butt of an Omega, the stitches of a Cogs, the ivory tip on the pin of a Schick...etc)
Thank you.

Richard
 
turquoisecrazy said:
Chris Hightower has done a lot of works with stones, have you talked to him?
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I have put small diamonds in ivory just under the surface like Sheldon did his and they looked great. I have put a good bit of rubies and emeralds in lately and they look more like red and green glass. Diamonds have more shimmer from the facets so they retain a lot of their beauty if layed into ivory or silver, but the colored gems lose a good bit of their beauty when finished over. I put thirty 1/2 carat rubies and emeralds in a cue that I am taking to the Expo. I wish they looked better, but where else can you get that color red and green withour putting glass in? At least it adds value to the cue and adds nice color.
Chris
www.hightowercues.com
 
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nipponbilliards said:
Gerald,

Danny Tibbits is someone I have heard a lot about. Unfortunately, I have not really played with any of his cues. Could you showed me a picture when you have the time, please?
Also, how is the hit--is it on the stiff side? Is there some unique feature(s) which serve(s) to act as a trade mark of his cues? (things such as the flared butt of an Omega, the stitches of a Cogs, the ivory tip on the pin of a Schick...etc)
Thank you.

Richard
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Richard,

You can go to Danny's website and he has a gallery of photos of the cues he has built Tibbitts Cues. I think that one of the main unique features of Danny's cues are the long, thin, very sharp points. Every one of Danny's cues that I have hit with had a very solid hit...maybe a little on the stiff side.

The cue that I'm playing with now is the four-point with the rectangular Ivory windows in the butt sleeve. Since the photo in the gallery was taken, Danny has replaced the butt plate with an Ivory one with a signature.
 
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