Qatar World Cup 10-Ball 2026

If Josh retired tomorrow he’d still be regarded by some as one of the best players of all time and a cinch for the hall of fame. His legacy is just fine.
He's already in my top five players of all time, along with Mosconi, Greenleaf, Reyes and Sigel. Josh has won at everything. His titles include the World 9ball, World 8ball, World Games Gold medal, World Teams Championship, China Open, US Open 9ball. In the fringe games, he has won the
Derby City banks, Derby City Master of Table, Buffalo Billiards 1-pocket, European 14.1 Pool Championship, American 14.1 championship. For the most part, he has also won most of the other major titles the greats of today hope to retire with on their resumes. He even has a silver and a bronze at the World 10ball and has double digit Euro-tour titles. Despite still being in his 20s, he is already third in history in career prize money won. It's hard to imagine what his competitive resume will look like when he retires. As they say, we shall see.
 
What impresses me the most about Filler is how he always rises to the occasion for the big money events.

The older generation (pre Euros) the major events had 64 player fields and maybe only six or seven with a realistic chance to win, with a few more darkhorses.

Nowadays the fields are much larger with many more top players (800+). All capable of winning. And only one player (Josh) is a clear favorite.

Plus always cool under pressure. He's got my vote!
 
What impresses me the most about Filler is how he always rises to the occasion for the big money events.

The older generation (pre Euros) the major events had 64 player fields and maybe only six or seven with a realistic chance to win, with a few more darkhorses.

Nowadays the fields are much larger with many more top players (800+). All capable of winning. And only one player (Josh) is a clear favorite.

Plus always cool under pressure. He's got my vote!
Yes, well said.

An irony is that the viral globalization of the game that brought our game to its current mind-blowing level is largely a result of the FAILED attempt at Olympic inclusion, which some do not realize bore quite a bit of fruit.

Ever since the day that pool was recognized as a sport by the IOC, many of the national Olympic committees have given funding to pool and to its top players. Two of the most noteworthy examples were Taiwan and Poland, and we saw how many fine players came out of those two countries once investment in the game grew. Sadly, no such funding came the way of American pool.

It's a whole new ballgame in pool, and I love the fact that great players seem to keep popping up in the darndest places (such as Kaci in Albania, Yapp in Singapore, Capito in Hong Kong, Grabe in Estonia, Januarta in Indonesia, Labutis in Lithuania, Szolnocki n Hungary and so many others). Few of us believed these to even be serious pool-playing nations until quite recently.

Whether the new and truly international game that pro pool has become is better than what we used to have is open to debate. It's in the eye of the beholder, but I'm enjoying this era of pro pool.
 
He's already in my top five players of all time, along with Mosconi, Greenleaf, Reyes and Sigel. Josh has won at everything. His titles include the World 9ball, World 8ball, World Games Gold medal, World Teams Championship, China Open, US Open 9ball. In the fringe games, he has won the
Derby City banks, Derby City Master of Table, Buffalo Billiards 1-pocket, European 14.1 Pool Championship, American 14.1 championship. For the most part, he has also won most of the other major titles the greats of today hope to retire with on their resumes. He even has a silver and a bronze at the World 10ball and has double digit Euro-tour titles. Despite still being in his 20s, he is already third in history in career prize money won. It's hard to imagine what his competitive resume will look like when he retires. As they say, we shall see.
Your knowledge of players seems to be vast, and I know it’s a matter of opinion but what kept SVB from not making your top 5? SVB has won everything and I’m my opinion the best American player of all time, and IMO closing in on Efren for GOAT status!
 
Your knowledge of players seems to be vast, and I know it’s a matter of opinion but what kept SVB from not making your top 5? SVB has won everything and I’m my opinion the best American player of all time, and IMO closing in on Efren for GOAT status!
SVB routinely falls short on the international tournament stage.
 
Your knowledge of players seems to be vast, and I know it’s a matter of opinion but what kept SVB from not making your top 5? SVB has won everything and I’m my opinion the best American player of all time, and IMO closing in on Efren for GOAT status!
Efren is still probably the best player that ever lived, although I think that distinction will one day belong to Filler. Sigel is the best ever American player in my books. He was one of the five best ever at 9ball during the 9ball era and was one of the five best ever at straight pool during the straight pool era. Mosconi and Greenleaf each have 15+ World Championships and dominated their respective eras in ways that we haven't seen since. They are the cornerstones, the foundational players upon which American pool was built. SVB, to me, is just the fourth best ever American.

Finally, the case for SVB over Filler would be a very weak one indeed. Still in his 20s, Filler has already won, at least once, each of the World 9-ball, the World Games gold medal, the UK Open, the US Open 9ball, the China Open 9ball, the World 8-ball, the Qatar World Cup 10ball, the European Open 9ball, the European 14.1, the Las Vegas Open 10ball, the Bali 10ball, the American 14.1, the Derby City 9ball, the Derby City banks, the Derby City Master of the Table, the Buffalo Billiards one-pocket, the World Pool Masters, and the World Cup of Pool. He also has double digit Euro-tour titles and has won both a silver and a bronze at the World 10ball. He has a WPA World Teams gold medal on his resume, too. No, Shane has not won everything and is missing several of the game's biggest titles on his resume. The same cannot be said of Filler, who seemingly gets around to winning every major title there is. Also, Filler has mass-produced major titles in all three of the major pool-playing continents while most of Shane's titles came on his home soil.

SVB is awesome, a living legend. I am very proud to say that I watched his unforgettable career up close over the years. I am proud to say that I was often there to congratulate him when he won his biggest titles and that I was there for his BCA Hall of Fame indcution.. His greatness is indisputable and his name rightly comes up when we speak of the best ever pool players ..... but cracking the top five of all time isn't easy, and I hope I made it clear why I chose the ones I did.
 
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Efren is still probably the best player that ever lived, although I think that distinction will one day belong to Filler. Sigel is the best ever American player in my books. He was one of the five best ever at 9ball during the 9ball era and was one of the five best ever at straight pool during the straight pool era. Mosconi and Greenleaf each have 15+ World Championships and dominated their respective eras in ways that we haven't seen since. They are the cornerstones, the foundational players upon which American pool was built. SVB, to me, is just the fourth best ever American.

Finally, the case for SVB over Filler would be a very weak one indeed. Still in his 20s, Filler has already won, at least once, each of the World 9-ball, the World Games gold medal, the UK Open, the US Open 9ball, the China Open 9ball, the World 8-ball, the Qatar World Cup 10ball, the European Open 9ball, the European 14.1, the Las Vegas Open 10ball, the Bali 10ball, the American 14.1, the Derby City 9ball, the Derby City banks, the Derby City Master of the Table, the Buffalo Billiards one-pocket, the World Pool Masters, and the World Cup of Pool. He also has double digit Euro-tour titles and has won both a silver and a bronze at the World 10ball. He has a WPA World Teams gold medal on his resume, too. No, Shane has not won everything and is missing several of the game's biggest titles on his resume. The same cannot be said of Filler, who seemingly gets around to winning every major title there is. Also, Filler has mass-produced major titles in all three of the major pool-playing continents while most of Shane's titles came on his home soil.

SVB is awesome, a living legend. I am very proud to say that I watched his unforgettable career up close over the years. I am proud to say that I was often there to congratulate him when he won his biggest titles and that I was there for his BCA Hall of Fame indcution.. His greatness is indisputable and his name rightly comes up when we speak of the best ever pool players ..... but cracking the top five of all time isn't easy, and I hope I made it clear why I chose the ones I did.
When you compare excellence across different games, I agree with your analysis, regarding Mike and Efren.

However, if you look at Nine Ball how do you beat Earl's record?

Earl is annoying but he was a monster at Nine Ball.

5 US opens and 3 World Nine Ball titles.

Efren never came close to that record in Nine Ball.

I believe he won one US Open.

I know that he defeated Earl in their action match. race to a hundred.

But we are talking tournament wins.

Jose Parica was a monster action player who everybody feared but didn't do that well in tournaments.......

SVB beyond his stellar tournament record took on a myriad of players for the cash.

Filler is the Killer and a pleasure to watch.

I think I first saw him play in a straight pool tournament when he was 16 in NY.

He ran like a hundred balls.

He is clearly, the man at this point in time..........
 
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Your knowledge of players seems to be vast, and I know it’s a matter of opinion but what kept SVB from not making your top 5? SVB has won everything and I’m my opinion the best American player of all time, and IMO closing in on Efren for GOAT status!
Fully admiting that I am a Filler fan and knowing that it sounds rude:
There was a time when the best American Pool Player was the best pool player of the world. But these times seem to be over. Just because SVB dominated the American pool players in the past doesn't show his superiourity right now any more. Quite a few European pool players are on his level and rising, where Shane is most likely at his peak or even past it. And we have a high number of Asian players lurking in the dark that might be even stronger.

Efren is Efren and Earl was brilliant. But when I watch the old videos, those guys made mistakes in nearly every other rack. Nowadays - that will sort you out in round 2 or 3 of a tournament like the Quatar World Cup.

My point is that the greatness of a player is highly linked to the ammount of dominace over the competition. And competition was high in Quatar. And competition will be high in future events like this. And I am not sure if our idols of the past would be able to repeat their success story against the present stiff competition.

Efren is/was the "Magician", but you don't need so much magic, if you play every position with surgical precision. ..... like Filler, when he is in stroke.

Just my humble opinion.

Gerhard
 
This is like trying to compare Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth, Josh Gibson, Willie Mays, Barry Bonds, Aaron Judge and Shohei Otani.^ It makes for interesting discussions, but the number of variables that enter into each player's greatness are too many to be able to make any definitive call.

^ Competition level, segregation, ballpark configurations, 100% day games vs mostly night games, jet lag, doubleheaders, bullpens with 100 MPH flamethrowers, analytics, conditioning, performance enhancers, etc., etc.
 
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But we are talking tournament wins.

Jose Parica was a monster action player who everybody feared but didn't do that well in tournaments.......

SVB beyond his stellar tournament record took on a myriad of players for the cash.

Filler is the Killer and a pleasure to watch.

I think I first saw him play in a straight pool tournament when he was 16 in NY.

He ran like a hundred balls.

He is clearly, the man at this point in time..........
Nice post!

As you note, action pool has no relevance to this discussion. Greatness is measured in titles, and not in minor ones but major ones. Noone ever got into the BCA Hall of Fame based on their record in action pool, and action pool is rarely, if ever, mentioned in hall of fame proceedings. It's why the great Parica wasn't inducted until he was 65 --- his tournament record was good but not on the level of so many who get inducted.

Back to tournaments. Earl's record is phenomenal. In a recent thread about best ever nine ball players, I had Filler, Sigel and Earl as my top three, so we are pretty much on the same page here. Comparing them to each other is not so simple, and I respect your choice to place Earl above the other two He was an incredibly special player, and like Josh, he had a way of scoring a lot of blowout wins in event finals. I've often posted that Filler's countless moments of dominance bring to mind prime Earl Strickland. Nobody could beat him when Earl found his highest gear in the 1990s, and nobody can beat Filler when he finds his highest gear this decade.

That said, pro pool is much more than the World 9ball and the US Open 9ball, and Filler's resume, in which he has countless major titles all over the globe against the killer fields of this generation, merits great respect. Most of Earl's major titles (Sigel's, too) came when the fields were 90% American and when nearly all the majors were played in America, and that must also be factored in.

Thanks for sharing your opinion here. It's always fun to compare notes with someone who has sweated decades of pool like me.

PS I think the debate about whether all games should be considered in the greatness equation is a debate for the ages. It's a quesiton that the members of AZB have often struggled with.
 
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Efren is still probably the best player that ever lived, although I think that distinction will one day belong to Filler. Sigel is the best ever American player in my books. He was one of the five best ever at 9ball during the 9ball era and was one of the five best ever at straight pool during the straight pool era. Mosconi and Greenleaf each have 15+ World Championships and dominated their respective eras in ways that we haven't seen since. They are the cornerstones, the foundational players upon which American pool was built. SVB, to me, is just the fourth best ever American.

Finally, the case for SVB over Filler would be a very weak one indeed. Still in his 20s, Filler has already won, at least once, each of the World 9-ball, the World Games gold medal, the UK Open, the US Open 9ball, the China Open 9ball, the World 8-ball, the Qatar World Cup 10ball, the European Open 9ball, the European 14.1, the Las Vegas Open 10ball, the Bali 10ball, the American 14.1, the Derby City 9ball, the Derby City banks, the Derby City Master of the Table, the Buffalo Billiards one-pocket, the World Pool Masters, and the World Cup of Pool. He also has double digit Euro-tour titles and has won both a silver and a bronze at the World 10ball. He has a WPA World Teams gold medal on his resume, too. No, Shane has not won everything and is missing several of the game's biggest titles on his resume. The same cannot be said of Filler, who seemingly gets around to winning every major title there is. Also, Filler has mass-produced major titles in all three of the major pool-playing continents while most of Shane's titles came on his home soil.

SVB is awesome, a living legend. I am very proud to say that I watched his unforgettable career up close over the years. I am proud to say that I was often there to congratulate him when he won his biggest titles and that I was there for his BCA Hall of Fame indcution.. His greatness is indisputable and his name rightly comes up when we speak of the best ever pool players ..... but cracking the top five of all time isn't easy, and I hope I made it clear why I chose the ones I did.
I respect your opinion and knowledge but I disagree. Shane is a 20 time us open champion, a two time world champion, has over 100 professional tournament wins in every discipline that pool has to offer. No disrespect to Willie or Raph, but when they won their championships the fields were with around 8-16 players. For what its worth Francisco Bustamante when asked who the GOAT was he named Shane. At the end of the day it’s all a Matter of opinion.
 
Nice post!

As you note, action pool has no relevance to this discussion. Greatness is measured in titles, and not in minor ones but major ones. Noone ever got into the BCA Hall of Fame based on their record in action pool, and action pool is rarely, if ever, mentioned in hall of fame proceedings. It's why the great Parica wasn't inducted until he was 65 --- his tournament record was good but not on the level of so many who get inducted.

Back to tournaments. Earl's record is phenomenal. In a recent thread about best ever nine ball players, I had Filler, Sigel and Earl as my top three, so we are pretty much on the same page here. Comparing them to each other is not so simple, and I respect your choice to place Earl above the other two He was an incredibly special player, and like Josh, he had a way of scoring a lot of blowout wins in event finals. I've often posted that Filler's countless moments of dominance bring to mind prime Earl Strickland. Nobody could beat him when Earl found his highest gear in the 1990s, and nobody can beat Filler when he finds his highest gear this decade.

That said, pro pool is much more than the World 9ball and the US Open 9ball, and Filler's resume, in which he has countless major titles all over the globe against the killer fields of this generation, merits great respect. Most of Earl's major titles (Sigel's, too) came when the fields were 90% American and when nearly all the majors were all played in America, and that must also be factored in.

Thanks for sharing your opinion here. It's always fun to compare notes with someone who has sweated decades of pool like me.

PS I think the debate about whether all games should be considered in the greatness equation is a debate for the ages. It's a quesiton that the members of AZB have often struggled with.
Absolutely all,games should be mentioned regarding who the GOAT is. That’s why I don’t have Earl in my top 5 greatest of all time players, he won the majority of his titles in nineball, where Nick Varner has won championships in other pool games. When it comes to nineball? Sure Earl has to be mentioned has one of the best.
 
I respect your opinion and knowledge but I disagree. Shane is a 20 time us open champion, a two time world champion, has over 100 professional tournament wins in every discipline that pool has to offer. No disrespect to Willie or Raph, but when they won their championships the fields were with around 8-16 players. For what its worth Francisco Bustamante when asked who the GOAT was he named Shane. At the end of the day it’s all a Matter of opinion.
Counting the CSI US Opens as majors is hilarious. None of them are and, frankly, it has probably been a few years since anyone on this forum tried to suggest otherwise. Some of the CSI US Opens have had fields of less than 20 and very few of them have deep, international fields. I'd say one Euro-tour title is worth three CSI US Open titles. That gives Ralf Souquet the equivalent of 69 US Opens. Of course, that's nonsense, too. Shane has five US Opens, and all of them were against fields weaker and less internationally balanced than what we've seen in this decade of pro pool.

Yes, it's a matter of opinion, but Shane has never dominated across the world. Yes, he dominated on American soil against fields that were chiefly American, but his track record is much poorer when competing against large, internationally diverse fields worldwide. Filler's resume at age 29 already eclipses that of Shane at 43. Title count? Who cares. When discussing greatness, it is major title count that matters, because performance against elite fields is the only real measure. Filler's rate of winning major championships all over the globe is so much greater than that of Shane that the comparison borders on silly.

Is Shane's 5 US Opens 9ball, 1 World 9ball, 1 World 8ball any stronger than Filler's 1 US Open 9ball, 1 World 9ball, 3 China Open 9ball, 1 World Games 9ball gold medal, and 1 World 8ball? That's pretty close, but if you look at all the other majors, Filler has won everything in sight and Shane hasn't won anything close to that. Finally, as Shane has noted, Filler has worn him out in head-to-head play for the length of Josh' career.

Of course, you are allowed to size it up as you please. Thanks for sharing your views.
 
Fully admiting that I am a Filler fan and knowing that it sounds rude:
There was a time when the best American Pool Player was the best pool player of the world. But these times seem to be over. Just because SVB dominated the American pool players in the past doesn't show his superiourity right now any more. Quite a few European pool players are on his level and rising, where Shane is most likely at his peak or even past it. And we have a high number of Asian players lurking in the dark that might be even stronger.

Efren is Efren and Earl was brilliant. But when I watch the old videos, those guys made mistakes in nearly every other rack. Nowadays - that will sort you out in round 2 or 3 of a tournament like the Quatar World Cup.

My point is that the greatness of a player is highly linked to the ammount of dominace over the competition. And competition was high in Quatar. And competition will be high in future events like this. And I am not sure if our idols of the past would be able to repeat their success story against the present stiff competition.

Efren is/was the "Magician", but you don't need so much magic, if you play every position with surgical precision. ..... like Filler, when he is in stroke.

Just my humble opinion.

Gerhard
A solid, well-reasoned, post, but I'd like to offer that there are other considerations when it comes to Efren and Earl.

Efren's efforts are legendary, in part, because he advanced the science of the game. No idea how old you are, but when Efren came to America, he was employing some shots and strategies never seen before. He introduced us to many of the shots that would gradually enter the arsenals of most of the top players. Kick shots, 2-way sots, safeties --- Efren seemed to know shots that nobody else knew. At 9ball, but even more so at 1-pocket, he got everybody thinking differently about how the game can and should be played. Efren's greatness is partly tied to his performance and partly tied to his groundbreaking style of play, which integrated billiard knowledge into pool in a new way. His imagination set the stage for greater development of the theory underlying the game. Another amazing thing about Efren is the speed at which he learned and mastered new games. He had never played straight pool but tried his hand at the 1993 World 14.1 championships and medaled. He had never focused on 8ball, but when the IPT came along in 2006, he won the biggest prize ever paid in 8ball, which was $500,000. He had never tried one pocket until he learned much of it from, among others, Billy Incardona and Fred Bentivegna, and it wasn't long before, in Billy's words, he clearly understood things that even they didn't. He went on to be the greatest ever one-pocket player.

Earl's legend is another matter. Though it was played before, 9ball only became a major competitive discipline in 1976. For most of us, Earl came onto our radar in 1980 as a 19-year-old. He offered a brand of 9ball never seen before, a game based more on power than anything else. He was, unquestionably, the first to ever master the nine-ball break, and because of it, he sat opponents down for racks at a time more than anyone that came before him. It gave him a top gear that nobody could match. He was known for often dismissing the greatest of champions by very lopsided scores in competition. In short, Earl can be credited with ushering in the era of power 9ball that is still going strong.

Hence, it is true that if you watch old footage of Earl at 9ball, you will probably not think he played like the current edition of Filler, and I won't disagree. Similarly, if you watched footage of Efren at 1-pocket, you'd wonder whether he'd have beaten modern day Shane, Gorst or Filler at one pocket. I'd suggest, however, that a wider lens is needed to made these kinds of assessments. Earl and Efren were foundational players that introdcued a new type of pool to us, and part of their greatness is tied to having done so.

Just some food for thought.
 
Counting the CSI US Opens as majors is hilarious. None of them are and, frankly, it has probably been a few years since anyone on this forum tried to suggest otherwise. Some of the CSI US Opens have had fields of less than 20 and very few of them have deep, international fields. I'd say one Euro-tour title is worth three CSI US Open titles. That gives Ralf Souquet the equivalent of 69 US Opens. Of course, that's nonsense, too. Shane has five US Opens, and all of them were against fields weaker and less internationally balanced than what we've seen in this decade of pro pool.

Yes, it's a matter of opinion, but Shane has never dominated across the world. Yes, he dominated on American soil against fields that were chiefly American, but his track record is much poorer when competing against large, internationally diverse fields worldwide. Filler's resume at age 29 already eclipses that of Shane at 43. Title count? Who cares. When discussing greatness, it is major title count that matters, because performance against elite fields is the only real measure. Filler's rate of winning major championships all over the globe is so much greater than that of Shane that the comparison borders on silly.

Is Shane's 5 US Opens 9ball, 1 World 9ball, 1 World 8ball any stronger than Filler's 1 US Open 9ball, 1 World 9ball, 3 China Open 9ball, 1 World Games 9ball gold medal, and 1 World 8ball? That's pretty close, but if you look at all the other majors, Filler has won everything in sight and Shane hasn't won anything close to that. Finally, as Shane has noted, Filler has worn him out in head-to-head play for the length of Josh' career.

Of course, you are allowed to size it up as you please. Thanks for sharing your views.

And Josh still has at least 10 years of prime left most likely
 
A solid, well-reasoned, post, but I'd like to offer that there are other considerations when it comes to Efren and Earl.

Efren's efforts are legendary, in part, because he advanced the science of the game. No idea how old you are, but when Efren came to America, he was employing some shots and strategies never seen before. He introduced us to many of the shots that would gradually enter the arsenals of most of the top players. Kick shots, 2-way sots, safeties --- Efren seemed to know shots that nobody else knew. At 9ball, but even more so at 1-pocket, he got everybody thinking differently about how the game can and should be played. Efren's greatness is partly tied to his performance and partly tied to his groundbreaking style of play, which integrated billiard knowledge into pool in a new way. His imagination set the stage for greater development of the theory underlying the game. Another amazing thing about Efren is the speed at which he learned and mastered new games. He had never played straight pool but tried his hand at the 1993 World 14.1 championships and medaled. He had never focused on 8ball, but when the IPT came along in 2006, he won the biggest prize ever paid in 8ball, which was $500,000. He had never tried one pocket until he learned much of it from, among others, Billy Incardona and Fred Bentivegna, and it wasn't long before, in Billy's words, he clearly understood things that even they didn't. He went on to be the greatest ever one-pocket player.

Earl's legend is another matter. Though it was played before, 9ball only became a major competitive discipline in 1976. For most of us, Earl came onto our radar in 1980 as a 19-year-old. He offered a brand of 9ball never seen before, a game based more on power than anything else. He was, unquestionably, the first to ever master the nine-ball break, and because of it, he sat opponents down for racks at a time more than anyone that came before him. It gave him a top gear that nobody could match. He was known for often dismissing the greatest of champions by very lopsided scores in competition. In short, Earl can be credited with ushering in the era of power 9ball that is still going strong.

Hence, it is true that if you watch old footage of Earl at 9ball, you will probably not think he played like the current edition of Filler, and I won't disagree. Similarly, if you watched footage of Efren at 1-pocket, you'd wonder whether he'd have beaten modern day Shane, Gorst or Filler at one pocket. I'd suggest, however, that a wider lens is needed to made these kinds of assessments. Earl and Efren were foundational players that introdcued a new type of pool to us, and part of their greatness is tied to having done so.

Just some food for thought.
Yes Sir,
I fully agree.
As I said: "My point is that the greatness of a player is highly linked to the ammount of dominace over the competition."
Efren and Earl were absolutely dominant - no doubt. Shane not so much (though still brilliant).

Thank you for your wise words

Gerhard

BTW - I am 64. Grew up in the same billard joint with Ralph Eckert (unfortunately not his dedication, ambition or talent). So just old enough that I had the pleasure to meet Freddy the Beard.
 
And Josh still has at least 10 years of prime left most likely
Tough to say, but that sounds about right, and we're not even sure we have seen Filler's best yet. Even compared to a couple of years ago, he is better than he was at both defense and kicking, so he is still developing. Not even tactical super-gurus like Pagulayan and Biado have an easy time beating Josh to the shot.

I will offer this, however. Shane remains a top ten player in the world at age 43. I have to wonder whether Josh will be a Top 10 player in the world when he's 43, but on average, it's probably a bad idea to bet against Josh on any matter. Shane's longevity is something very special and his sustained excellence is simply phenomenal.
 
Yes Sir,
I fully agree.
As I said: "My point is that the greatness of a player is highly linked to the ammount of dominace over the competition."
Efren and Earl were absolutely dominant - no doubt. Shane not so much (though still brilliant).

Thank you for your wise words

Gerhard

BTW - I am 64. Grew up in the same billard joint with Ralph Eckert (unfortunately not his dedication, ambition or talent). So just old enough that I had the pleasure to meet Freddy the Beard.
Cool, Gerhard. I'm Stu from New York City and I'm 68. Ralph Eckert and I are friends. He is a lovely guy. We met through our mutual friend Thorsten Hohmann in what I believe was 2006. In fact, I drove Ralph to the airport after the 2023 US Open 9ball in New Jersey. Shortly before that, he had been named coach of Team Europe for the 2023 Mosconi Cup, so we had a lot to talk about.
 
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