Question about Derby cues

middleofnowhere

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I know this subject is probably been beaten to death. I've been watching the YouTube coverage and it's great I'm really enjoying it. I got to ask though, is anybody there using a conventional cue anymore?
I'm not being sarcastic, it's just that the volume of players at Derby would be a pretty good indication of the trend.
 
Define conventional cue. Do you mean a wood shaft?
Yeah it would mean a wood shaft probably a wood butt with a few inlays some Irish linen. Certain types of tapers, certain types of ferrules and so on. Players years ago used to be so particular about their cues.

They would go on and on about balance points, length, shaft diameters, ferrule materials and so on. Now it seems like the cue arrives in a box maybe a choice of three shaft diameters, whatever kind of ferrule it comes with. They take it out of the box and play with it. Of course you have to have a glove.
You know what I mean.
I just mentioned it because the Derby has so many players. Well they're probably not there playing I would be curious if a player like Sigal or Nick Varner, Archer are now using these new cues. I would be interested in their honest opinions.
Like I said the subject is probably been beaten to death but I don't think in the light of all these new cues it can really be discussed enough. A cue can be quite an investment and a new player or even an experienced player probably has to wonder should I make this change.
 
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Yeah it would mean a wood shaft probably a wood butt with a few inlays some Irish linen. Certain types of tapers, certain types of ferrules and so on. Players years ago used to be so particular about their cues.

They would go on and on about balance points, length, shaft diameters, ferrule materials and so on. Now it seems like the cue arrives in a box maybe a choice of three shaft diameters, whatever kind of ferrule it comes with. They take it out of the box and play with it. Of course you have to have a glove.
You know what I mean.
I just mentioned it because the Derby has so many players. Well they're probably not there playing I would be curious if a player like Sigal or Nick Varner, Archer are now using these new cues. I would be interested in their honest opinions.
Like I said the subject is probably been beaten to death but I don't think in the light of all these new cues it can really be discussed enough. A cue can be quite an investment and a new player or even an experienced player probably has to wonder should I make this change.
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Yeah it would mean a wood shaft probably a wood butt with a few inlays some Irish linen. Certain types of tapers, certain types of ferrules and so on. Players years ago used to be so particular about their cues.

They would go on and on about balance points, length, shaft diameters, ferrule materials and so on. Now it seems like the cue arrives in a box maybe a choice of three shaft diameters, whatever kind of ferrule it comes with. They take it out of the box and play with it. Of course you have to have a glove.
You know what I mean.
I just mentioned it because the Derby has so many players. Well they're probably not there playing I would be curious if a player like Sigal or Nick Varner, Archer are now using these new cues. I would be interested in their honest opinions.
Like I said the subject is probably been beaten to death but I don't think in the light of all these new cues it can really be discussed enough. A cue can be quite an investment and a new player or even an experienced player probably has to wonder should I make this change.
For me, the short answer is the more recognizable players are going to play with their sponsor's cue/shafts and that just isn't going to be wood or traditional for the most part as production makers are making traditional cues less and less. Traditional makers like Schon, Joss, and the like don't sponsor big tournaments these days at least to my knowledge, so their visibility is less than Predator and Cuetec. Do they even sponsor players these days?

For the rest, carbon fiber offers several advantages over wood, so I feel like that's why many of the better players have switched. The advantages are certainly why I did. At this point, it's the old school folks that are playing with wood shafts for the most part. I probably played with a wood shaft for 20 years or more. If I play with wood now, it's likely because I picked up a butt that I don't have carbon for (looking at you 3/8x11). I have a couple really nice customs and an old school Schon that have great wood shafts, but I hardly ever play with wood anymore because I like playing with a Revo.

Younger folks also see Filler, Gorst and the like shooting with non-traditional cues and carbon fiber and that's what they will want. Additionally, that's what going to be in a lot of brick-and-mortar stores that deal in production cues as well. Cost plays into the decision. To get a traditional cue that has great looking woods is simply more expensive, possibly prohibitively, these days when you can pick up a Lucky or Valhalla for $150. Look at Predator - 5-10 years ago you could get a good 8 point sneaky with really nice wood for like $400. Now, they are painted and like $800 for an 8 point.
 
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For me, the short answer is the more recognizable players are going to play with their sponsor's cue/shafts and that just isn't going to be wood or traditional for the most part as production makers are making traditional cues less and less. Traditional makers like Schon, Joss, and the like don't sponsor big tournaments these days at least to my knowledge, so their visibility is less than Predator and Cuetec. Do they even sponsor players these days?

For the rest, carbon fiber offers several advantages over wood, so I feel like that's why many of the better players have switched. The advantages are certainly why I did. At this point, it's the old school folks that are playing with wood shafts for the most part. I probably played with a wood shaft for 20 years or more. If I play with wood now, it's likely because I picked up a butt that I don't have carbon for (looking at you 3/8x11). I have a couple really nice customs and an old school Schon that have great wood shafts, but I hardly ever play with wood anymore because I like playing with a Revo.

Younger folks also see Filler, Gorst and the like shooting with non-traditional cues and carbon fiber and that's what they will want. Additionally, that's what going to be in a lot of brick-and-mortar stores that deal in production cues as well. Cost plays into the decision. To get a traditional cue that has great looking woods is simply more expensive, possibly prohibitively, these days when you can pick up a Lucky or Valhalla for $150. Look at Predator - 5-10 years ago you could get a good 8 point sneaky with really nice wood for like $400. Now, they are painted and like $800 for an 8 point.
Get one Whyte Triple 60 shaft and get adapters for every size pin you play with, it's what I did and have never looked back.
 
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