Question for Fast Larry

RAZOR ROG said:
A Newfie won best in show at the Westminster show this year. ;)

RAZOR


Hey man, I saw that. I heard when fls' german shepherd saw the show on tv and got the news, he ran out into his back yard, jumped into fl's pool and drowned himself. I heard FL moved to Poland over that, at least thats the rumor going around. I wish he would move to Mexico, we could use the laughs. The dude drinks gold tequila by the shot, he can't be all bad amigos.
 
I'll bet this post gets a ton of feedback. Whatever happened to WonderDog...why did he stop posting?
 
UW, I think the mentally unstable Larry Guninger is having another relapse! Pocoloco12003, elanobeone,BigBopper, Jacko,,,Larry has more imaginary friends than Sybil!! I wonder if someone can check the IPs for all those "guys" and see if we can pull the curtain back on that wacko.


Brian
 
pocoloco12003 said:
You are absolutely correct, the guy was simply kidding around, you could clearly see that. She took it the same way, came back with a tactful lady like reply and FL moved on. There was no attack or slight put on Sarah by FL, but it did not take long for somebody to use that against him and to attack him. Larry fools around with ladies all the time. I saw him put a Hawiian lei around the neck of this really nice looking lady at a show once and said now you can go home and tell all of your friends you were laid by Fast Larry. That is the way the guy is, he's liable to do anything for a laugh. He means no harm or insult with these things. There are too many people wired up too tight on this board who are jumping him every time he opens up his mouth. They must listen to too much talk radio and feel every time they hear something they don't like they can go off on an insult tear. Man, lighten up people, you gringos need to drink more tequila and eat more burritos, then you will be more fun to be around.



I learned from day 1 that if you grow up in a pool room - no matter what sex you are - if you can't take the kidding; YOU ARE TOAST. Now the latest yuppified versions of pool rooms I have seen lately, I cannot say for sure but I guess someone could get sued for sexual harassment!! Very Strange. :(

Phyllis Gumphrey
 
Larry Saint John N.B is in New Brunswick (hence the N.B), Newfoundland is another province, is it possible for you to make even a nice comment without comming off as a complete ass your "jokes" are old.
 
Why should pool rooms be any different than anywhere else? Is the expectation of decency a foreign concept in that environment? I hope not. Why is it that when a woman posts on this group, she gets sex "jokes" directed at her? Doesn't seem to happen to the men (or the ones who seem to be men, by their IDs), unless someone asks about Larry and his dog. Another nice topic.
 
UWPoolGod1 said:
I'll bet this post gets a ton of feedback. Whatever happened to WonderDog...why did he stop posting?


what sa matter, dont you read man, el pero did him self in, he is no more. He is in heaven with Lassie.
 
Phylbert57 said:
I learned from day 1 that if you grow up in a pool room - no matter what sex you are - if you can't take the kidding; YOU ARE TOAST. Now the latest yuppified versions of pool rooms I have seen lately, I cannot say for sure but I guess someone could get sued for sexual harassment!! Very Strange. :(

Phyllis Gumphrey

Yo senorita, you dont wanna spend no money going after Fast, be smart, he hangs out every April at the Master for a entire week. Just sick your leader on him, she will take him out for you. There is only one little problem, Fast can get in the gate and martha is bared off the grounds, if she shows on the course a Pinkerton guard will shoot her. You know, yo leader, Martha Burke. Hootie gave her the finger also, what do you think of that. It means guys are gonna be guys and you women should butt out of their world. One more point, who said the ladies can't make sexist jokes on this board against the men, if that floast their boat, go for it, this is a two way street or do the sexist facist females just want to deball all the real men here with their instructions on how they must talk and act now. Are these so called women, really women, if you know what I mean, look around pool. How many have kids or a husband, but they all have girlfriends. Everyone here should learn how to live and let live and butt out of other peoples lives and business.


Martha Burke Gives Women a Bad Name

Oregon Magazine
March, 2003

(OMED: Certain references to national socialism in the text below were taken directly from signs carried by pseudo-feminists in public demonstrations between 1960 and 2003.)

Femi-Nazi Martha Burke, National Charwoman of the National Council of Women’s Organizations said during a mid-February PBS Lehrer News Hour interview, “Television is still a media run by men.”

The interview itself was about the idiotic attack on the men’s golf club that hosts the Masters tournament (April 7-13), one of the most important competitions in the sport. The female fascists of the extreme left have already frightened half of America’s males into giving up everything that used to make them men, but a few stalwart holdouts still stand as magnificent examples of what America once produced.
Hootie Johnson is the boss of the all-male Master’s bunch, and an odd target for liberals. He helped desegregate South Carolina University and personally pushed women into executive jobs with Banker’s Trust. Sexist racists should be made of sterner stuff.

But, the moronic Miss Burke has been hammering on him, threatening demonstrations during the annual spring event if he doesn't ignore the club's constitutional right to freedom of association for private organizations, and install women in positions of power. Advertisers have been frightened away, but that is not surprising. It doesn’t take much to frighten advertisers, even ones the size of Chrysler. Jesse Jackson can blackmail corporations like that with a single phone call threatening 20 demonstrators in front of the company’s headquarters. This is because the mainstream media, CBS included, will go anywhere Jesse sends them, and cover any event he orders them to cover, then run the segment exactly as he has edited it.
It's how the good Christian reverend manages to afford a wife and family and a mistress and family at the same time.

But, when Miss Burke started threatening reprisals against Tiger Woods, who this year following his recent surgery is swinging well and has a chance to win his third Masters in a row, she got an earful from another successful black man.
Bryant Gumbel, in a recent HBO sports show, labeled Burke’s attack on the Masters as “extortion.” When she compared sexism to racism, Gumbel said, "You don't worry about your safety on this, do you? Nobody gets shot over women's rights. Nobody gets beaten or lynched over women's rights!"
Tiger, interested in making golf history by winning his third consecutive (fourth overall) Green Jacket, has politely refused to kowtow to Miss Burke.
It all leaves Miss Burke floundering a bit, and has forced her to take alternate approaches. One of these is the aforementioned criticism that television is a male-dominated profession, which is why CBS is carrying the sexist Masters.


Since CBS is, just as she said, carrying the Masters, I looked up a few items on their site.
The morning CBS lineup is as follows: Up to the Minute, Morning News Lynne Pitts (Executive Producer), Market Watch Report and the Early Show: Here's the sexist staffing picture. Melissa McDermott (anchor), Susan McGinnis (Anchor), Alexis Christopheris (Anchor), Hanna Storm (Anchor), Julie Chen (Anchor), Rene Syler (Anchor), Harry Smith (Anchor)
A search of the network executive structure turned up women in charge. Investigative areas, general news, programming, they’re all over the place.
Four CBS morning news shows. Seven anchors. Six women and one man. All of it followed by the Martha Stewart Show. Television is dominated by men?
This is why Martha Burke is widely considered to be a complete joke.
 
kyle said:
Larry Saint John N.B is in New Brunswick (hence the N.B), Newfoundland is another province, is it possible for you to make even a nice comment without comming off as a complete ass your "jokes" are old.

Ah man, dont bitch about the jokes, mess with the guy and he will get out his newfie joke book and unload on you guys. What dont you send him some new jokes, he needs some bad. The last one he told me was how many newfies does it take to screw in a light bulb?

He also sent me this email, it was from a guy named John, FL thought it rang true and so do I. He shared it with me, I now share it with you.

V> Larry,
> I have been reading the posts on AZ Billiards recently and I thought I
would take this opportunity to tell you how embarrassed I feel about the
things some of those people write to you/about you. I don't know what makes
people do the things they do but they're out there and I guess there isn't a
hell of a lot we can do about it. I have been playing pool since I was 13
(I'm 45 now) and I have noticed something about this wonderful sport. Pool
is, for some people, like driving. Take the nicest guy in the world, put him
behind the wheel of a car, and he turns into Mr. Hyde. Same thing with pool.
It seems to bring out the worst in some people. I don't know why. :o :rolleyes:
 
jer9ball said:
Those comments towards Sarah made my stomach turn.

jer9ball

You should really lighten up.
Maybe what he said was a little stupid, but it made your stomach turn?
Toughen up a little. We ARE pool players, not a sewing circle.
 
Settle down boys and girls. I know it was a joke. If I would have been offended, I would have been sure to say something. I know not to take things too seriously. We all have different humor...that is something I know we can agree on. So...no harm done.

Sarah
 
QUOTE=sarahrousey]Settle down boys and girls. I know it was a joke. If I would have been offended, I would have been sure to say something. I know not to take things too seriously. We all have different humor...that is something I know we can agree on. So...no harm done.

Sarah[/QUOTE]


Thank you Sarah for coming on and putting this issue to rest. You know I would never insult you and that I respect you as a fellow professional. I would be a sad day when we get so thin skinned and sensitive that we can no longer kid around with each other in good natured humor. You are an all right broad in my book.
You could have just sat back and enjoyed the roast, but you came in and had your say and that means you have a lot of class in my book. I just took you out of the B section and moved you into the A section. Bravo, we need more like you. You busy Friday night?

An email that just came in said:

I saw the post on the AZ board and it’s sad that some people rag on you. These stupid people sit behind a computer and have nothing but negative things to say. I appreciate your help and respect the things you say about the game.
Original Message

This is a great one from da bazooka, your right Joe; do not lose sight of which we are, pool players and not politicians running for president.

Quote Joe: Toughen up a little. We ARE pool players, not a sewing circle.

Your right Joe, what's with you guys, you got a pair hanging or what?

These attacks on me are not helping me or helping you. When you do that to me you scare off any other pros who might have wanted to come on and post and help you. They realize if you do it to me, you will do it to them. Hal Houle a real teaching pro came on this board and ccb and was attacked, smeared, ridiculed and ran off. He just left, did not need your insults. When was the last time Earl or Grady taught anything here, or went to the trouble to explain anything to you?

Any time any body does, there are 5 people at their throats. That is the problem. Keep this up and what you will end up with is no pros or experts posting or helping you. What you will be getting for advice will be from a bunch of table mechanics most of which can't run 3 friggin balls and from a bunch of guys sitting behind the desk of a pool hall for minimum wage that has nothing to do during the day but post here and most of them can't run 4 friggin balls. That will be your new teachers and that has been a lot of the attackers in the past, these guys want the lime light, want to be out front as the guru teacher and attack any thing said just out of meanness or simple jealousy.

Lighten up people; you are cutting your own throats here. I posted over and over how I respect and accept Efren is the best player on earth today. You can never find anything or any place where I have not said that. I do not put him on my top 10 list and I got nothing but insults and digs over that. Because my opinion differed from yours, so you have the right now to insult me. Welcome to the new sicko internet, welcome sickos who can tee off on any one and release their anger and venom hiding under the rocks of anonymous protection. Most of this crap and anger they post they would never say if they came up to someone face to face in a real pool hall. Unless they had their dental insurance paid up in full. But here, its blast away, ooohh look how much fun that is.

I said my top 10 are for the great champions, who won the big ones, the world championships, not the Akron open or the Bintangonehunglow invitational. The world championship, in the ball room in the main hotel in NYC that is the one. I simply stated that winning a lot of tour events is nice, that means you are a winner and a good player, but not a great player. In golf, Sam Sneed won the most tour events, 100, but was never in the upper great class because he choked and dogged too many majors. He won many majors, but his dogs in the US open and Masters were never forgotten.

Telling you Efren did the same is simply a statement of fact and history, so what do you do about that, you shoot your messenger. That is so typical of you.

One guy from the UK said all of my picks were Americans because I was an American. Go look at my top 10, #2 is Australian, 5=6 is English, and 7 is Belgium. 4 of the 10 are European. Because I did not put a Brit on the #1 spot in front of Hoppe the guy goes off on me. I did not because they don’t deserve the spot, it is just that simple, Hoppes record dwarfs anything any one in the UK ever did with a cue period.

Efren does not get on my list because he only won one world. Everyone on this list won multiple worlds, 5 to 15, not the bingtang open, but the world championship, that is the test people. You want to have a popularity contest of who you now know today. Some will just not look at this thing as a historically measure of greatness against all of those who played in the last century. I cannot put Efren on my list because of his failures in the world events. Earl won 5, Johnny Archer has won several, and both of these players would go on my 2nd tier 20 in front of Efren because of their better records and their greater accomplishments in the world. Both are greater players than Efren. Let me know when Efren wins 4 more world titles then I can change my opinion of where he should rank in the over all scheme of things.

Who is the best ball striker on tour today? Who hits it as long as Tiger, sometimes longer? Who putts as well as Tiger? Who hits better irons than Tiger? Who hits a better wedge and scrambles better than Tiger? Who has won already around 20 tour titles and makes a lot of money? Who is also a very good money player on side bets out on the course?
Leftie and he is a choking dog on the majors having never won one. Tiger has and has become one of the great ones on track to be the greatest of all time. Greatness is measured on winning the world titles, not the howtom open boys. That is the point you all refuse to accept because when you do, you must lower your opinion of Efren and raise your opinion of Earl which most of you refuse to do.

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Another person said I should have had Alfredo De Oro on my top 10 list. He missed the point where I said this is the list of the 20th century. Pool did not begin until the very late 1880’s and did not really get rolling until the late teens in the 20th century. Most of those early pool contests were in rotation and not a lot of competition. My feeling was to make a 2nd list of the 19th century; the 1800’s and list my top 10 pick there. I did not do that because I could see few on the board have any interest in anyone not now on ESPN or who is a dead player. De Oro did win in the 20th century, winning worlds in 1900-01-03-04-05-08. 6 worlds and by my way of doing it should take Jimmy Caras place having won one more world than Jimmy. I felt the way of dealing with Oro who split both centuries was to list him in the 19th century list, they he would be featured and the great Caras stays on the list also. De Oro won in 1887-88-89-92-93-94-95-99. 14 worlds wins. This guy was the 19th century Willie Mosconi. He was certainly the greatest pool player of the 19th century and the 2nd greatest pool player of all time. He would be at the very top of my 19th century list, maybe not #1; I would have to study that. Remember he played a little know totally non important side bar game called pool. To compare him then was to now compare a pin pong player to Agassi in Tennis, Agassi plays the bigger more important game, but both hit a white ball with a paddle. Billiards was the main game in the 19th century and that was where the real world championship was, not pool. De Oros pool wins in the 1880’s were about as important and given about as much credit as the world title artistic wins Rick Wright and I had in the mid 90’s, every one went whoop te do da, that does not mean squat, only 9 ball counts. There is some point and some validity to that biased stance. The bigger the game, the bigger the meaning of the win. What if a player today won 15 World Bank pool titles, is he as great as Mosconi? You see the point; he is not because his game is not as important. That is why De Oro does not go on my 20th Century list but does hit the top of my 19th century list. I did not miss his name, I considered it and weighed this heavily just as I did Efrens name before I left both off.

That of course changed after the depression of the 30’s and pool became the main game then. How can you possible compare Efrens one world win against De Oro’s 14 or Mosconi’s 15, now can you see he sucks up really short on that comparison?
De Oro, that was one hell of a Cuban, maybe Efren should start smoking cigars perhaps that was the secret.


I have tried to give you nice people on the board a nice education on the history of our game and the great players of the 20th century. Allow me now to introduce you to the games premier expert and historian, Mike Shamos.
 
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The History of Pool
A Brief History of the Noble Game of Billiards
by Mike Shamos Copyright©1995 All Rights Reserved
The history of billiards is long and very rich. The game has been played by kings and commoners, presidents, mental patients, ladies, gentlemen, and hustlers alike. It evolved from a lawn game similar to the croquet played sometime during the 15th century in Northern Europe and probably in France. Play was moved indoors to a wooden table with green cloth to simulate grass and a simple border was placed around the edges. The balls were shoved, rather than struck, with wooden sticks called "maces"; The term "billiard" is derived from French, either from the word "billart," one of the wooden sticks, or "bille," a ball.
The game was originally played with two balls on a six-pocket table with a hoop similar to a croquet wicket and an upright stick used as a target During the eighteenth century, the hoop and target gradually disappeared, leaving only the balls and pockets. Most of our information about early billiards comes from accounts of playing by royalty and other nobles. It has been known as the "Noble Game of Billiards" since the early 1800 's, but there is evidence that people from all walks of life have played the game since its inception. In 1600, the game was familiar enough to the public that Shakespeare mentioned it in Antony and Cleopatra. Seventy-five years later, the first book of billiard rules remarked of England that there were "few Towns of note therein which hath not a publick Billiard-Table."
The cue stick was developed in the late 1600 's. When the ball lay near a rail, the mace was very inconvenient to use because of its large head. In such a case, the players would turn the mace around and use its handle to strike the ball. The handle was called a "queue"-meaning "tail"-from which we get the word "cue." For a long time only men were allowed to use the cue; women were forced to use the mace because it was felt they were more likely to rip the cloth with the sharper cue.
Tables originally had flat vertical walls for rails and their only function was to keep the balls from falling off. They resembled river banks and even used to be called "banks." players discovered that balls could bounce off the rails and began deliberately aiming at them. Thus a "bank shot" is one in which a ball is made to rebound from a cushion as part of the shot.
Billiard equipment improved rapidly in England after 1800, largely because of the Industrial Revolution. Chalk was used to increase friction between the ball and the cue stick even before cues had tips. The leather cue tip, with which a player can apply side-spin to the ball, was perfected by 1823. Visitors from England showed Americans how to use spin which explains why it is called "English" in the United States but nowhere else. (The British themselves refer to it as "side.") The two-piece cue arrived in 1829. Slate became popular as a material for table beds around 1835. Goodyear discovered vulcanization of rubber in 1839 and by 1845 it was used to make billiard cushions. By 1850 the billiard table had essentially evolved into its current form.
The dominant billiard game in Britain from about 1770 until the 1920's was English Billiards, played with three balls and six pockets on a large rectangular table. A two-to-one ratio of length to width became standard in the 18th century. Before then, there were no fixed table dimensions. The British billiard tradition is carried on today primarily through the game of Snooker, a complex and colorful game combining offensive and defensive aspects and played on the same equipment as English Billiards but with 22 balls instead of three. The British appetite for Snooker is approached only by the American passion for baseball; it is possible to see Snooker competition every day in Britain.

Billiards in the United States
How billiards came to America has not been positively established. There are tales that it was brought to St. Augustine by the Spaniards in the 1580's but research has failed to reveal any trace of the game there. More likely it was brought over by Dutch and English settlers. A number of American cabinetmakers in the 1700's turned out exquisite billiard tables, although in small quantities. Nevertheless, the game didn't spread throughout the Colonies. Even George Washington was reported to have won a match in 1748. By 1830, despite primitive equipment, public rooms devoted entirely to billiards appeared. The most famous of them was Bassford's, a New York room that catered to stockbrokers. Here a number of American versions of billiards were developed, including Pin Pool, played with small wooden targets like miniature bowling pins, and Fifteen-Ball Pool, described later.
The American billiard industry and the incredible rise in popularity of the game are due to Michael Phelan, the father of American billiards. Phelan emigrated from Ireland and in 1850 wrote the first American book on the game. He was influential in devising rules and setting standards of behavior. An inventor, he added diamonds to the table to assist in aiming, and developed new table and cushion designs. He was also the first American billiard columnist. On January 1, 1859, the first of his weekly articles appeared in Leslie's Illustrated weekly. A few months later, Phelan won $15,000 in Detroit at the first important stake match held in the United States. He was a tireless promoter of the game and created the manufacturing company of Phelan and Collender. In 1884 the company merged with its chief competitor, J.M. Brunswick & Balke, to form the Brunswick-Balke-Collender Company, which tightly controlled all aspects of the game until the 1950's.
The dominant American billiard game until the 1870's was American Four-Ball Billiards, usually played on a large (11 or 12 -foot), four -pocket table with four balls, two white and two red. It was a direct extension of English Billiards. Points were scored by pocketing balls, scratching the cue ball, or by making caroms on two or three balls. A "carom" is the act of hitting two object balls with the cue ball in one stroke. With so many balls, there were many different ways of scoring and it was possible to make up to 13 points on a single shot.
American Four-Ball produced two offspring, both of which surpassed it in popularity by the late 1870's. One, simple caroms played with three balls on a pocketless table, is sometimes known as "Straight Rail", the forerunner of all carom games. The other popular game was American Fifteen-Ball pool, the predecessor of modern pocket billiards.
The word "pool" means a collective bet, or ante. Many non-billiard games, such as poker, involve a pool but it was to pocket billiard that the name became attached. The term "poolroom" now means a place where pool is played, but in the 19th century a poolroom was a betting parlor for horse racing. Pool tables were installed so patrons could pass the time between races. The two became connected in the public mind, but the unsavory connotation of "poolroom" came from the betting that took place there, not from billiards.
Fifteen-Ball Pool was played with 15 object balls, numbered 1 through 15. For sinking a ball, the player received a number of points equal to the value of the ball. The sum of the ball values in a rack is 120, so the first player who received more than half of the total, or 61, was the winner. This game, also called "61-Pool", was used in the first American championship pool tournament held in 1878 and won by Cyrille Dion, a Canadian. In 1888, it was thought fairer to count the number of balls pocketed by a player and not their numerical value. Thus, Continuous Pool replaced Fifteen-Ball Pool as the championship game. The player who sank the last ball of a rack would break the next rack and his point total would be kept "continuously" from one rack to the next.
Eight-Ball was invented shortly after 1900; Straight Pool followed in 1910. Nine-Ball seems to have developed around 1920. One-Pocket has ancestors that are older than any of these; the idea of the game was described in 1775 and the complete rules for a British form appeared in 1869.
 
From 1878 until 1956, pool and billiard championship tournaments were held almost annually, with one-on-one challenge matches filling the remaining months. At times, including during the Civil War, billiard results received wider coverage than war news. Players were so renowned that cigarette cards were issued featuring them. The BCA Hall of Fame honors many players from this era, including Jacob Schaefer, Sr. and his son, Jake Jr., Frank Taberski, Alfredo De Oro, and Johnny Layton. The first half of this century was the era of the billiard personality. In 1906, Willie Hoppe, at the age of 18, established the supremacy of American players by beating Maurice Vignaux of France at balkline. Balkline is a version of carom billiards with lines drawn on the table to form rectangles. When both object balls lie in the same rectangle, the number of shots that can be made is restricted. This makes the game much harder because the player must cause one of the balls to leave the rectangle, and hopefully return. When balkline lost its popularity during the 1930's, Hoppe began a new career in three-cushion billiards, which he dominated until he retired in 1952. Hoppe was a true American legend, a boy of humble roots whose talent was discovered early, a world champion as a teenager, and a gentleman who held professional titles for almost 50 years. One newspaper reported that under his manipulation, the balls moved "as if under a magic spell", To many fans, billiards meant Hoppe.
While the term " Billiards" refers to all the games played on a billiard table, with or without pockets, some people take billiards to mean carom games only and use pool for pocket games. Carom games, particularly balkline, dominated public attention until 1919, when Ralph Greenleaf's pool playing captured the nation's attention. For the next 20 years he gave up the title on only a few occasions. Through the 1930's, both pool and billiards, particularly three-cushion billiards, shared the spotlight. In 1941 the Mosconi era began and carom games declined in importance. Pool went to war several times as a popular recreation for the troops. Professional players toured military posts giving exhibitions; some even worked in the defense industry. But the game had more trouble emerging from World War II than it had getting into it. Returning soldiers were in a mood to buy houses and build careers, the charm of an afternoon spent at the pool table was a thing of the past. Room after room closed quietly and by the end of the 1950's it looked as though the game might pass into oblivion. Willie Mosconi, who won or successfully defended the pocket billiard title 19 times, retired as champion in 1956.
Billiards was revived by two electrifying events, one in 1961, the other in 1986. The first was the release of the movie, "The Hustler", based on the novel by Walter Tevis. The black and white film depicted the dark life of a pool hustler with Paul Newman in the title role. The sound of clicking balls sent America into a billiard frenzy. New rooms opened all over the country and for the remainder of the 60's pool flourished until social concerns, the Vietnam War, and a desire for outdoor coeducational activities led to a decline in billiard interest. By 1985, there were only two public rooms left in Manhattan, down from several thousand during the 1930's. In 1986, " The Color of Money", the sequel to "The Hustler" with Paul Newman in the same role and Tom Cruise as an up-and-coming professional, brought the excitement of pool to a new generation. The result was the opening of " upscale" rooms catering to people whose senses would have been offended by the old rooms if they had ever seen them. This trend began slowly in 1987 and has since surged, even resulting in a public stock offering in 1991 by Jillian's, a Boston-based room chain.
While the game has had its heroes since the early 1800's, it has had to wage a constant battle for respectability. Poolrooms were often the target of politicians and legislators alike, eager to show their ability to purge immorality from their communities. Even today, obtaining a billiard license can require compliance with antiquated regulations. In the 1920's, the poolroom was an environment in which men gathered to loiter, smoke, fight, bet, and play. The rooms of the 1990's bear no resemblance to those of earlier times. The new rooms have a cachet approaching that of chic restaurants and night clubs. They offer quality equipment, expert instruction, and the chance for people to meet socially for a friendly evening. Being totally without stigma, these rooms are responsible for introducing an entire new audience to the game and are resulting in the greatest surge in billiard interest in the United Stated in over a century
 
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pocoloco12003 said:
Yo senorita, you dont wanna spend no money going after Fast, be smart, he hangs out every April at the Master for a entire week. Just sick your leader on him, she will take him out for you. There is only one little problem, Fast can get in the gate and martha is bared off the grounds, if she shows on the course a Pinkerton guard will shoot her. You know, yo leader, Martha Burke. Hootie gave her the finger also, what do you think of that. It means guys are gonna be guys and you women should butt out of their world. One more point, who said the ladies can't make sexist jokes on this board against the men, if that floast their boat, go for it, this is a two way street or do the sexist facist females just want to deball all the real men here with their instructions on how they must talk and act now. Are these so called women, really women, if you know what I mean, look around pool. How many have kids or a husband, but they all have girlfriends. Everyone here should learn how to live and let live and butt out of other peoples lives and business.


Martha Burke Gives Women a Bad Name

Oregon Magazine
March, 2003

(OMED: Certain references to national socialism in the text below were taken directly from signs carried by pseudo-feminists in public demonstrations between 1960 and 2003.)

Femi-Nazi Martha Burke, National Charwoman of the National Council of Women’s Organizations said during a mid-February PBS Lehrer News Hour interview, “Television is still a media run by men.”

The interview itself was about the idiotic attack on the men’s golf club that hosts the Masters tournament (April 7-13), one of the most important competitions in the sport. The female fascists of the extreme left have already frightened half of America’s males into giving up everything that used to make them men, but a few stalwart holdouts still stand as magnificent examples of what America once produced.
Hootie Johnson is the boss of the all-male Master’s bunch, and an odd target for liberals. He helped desegregate South Carolina University and personally pushed women into executive jobs with Banker’s Trust. Sexist racists should be made of sterner stuff.

But, the moronic Miss Burke has been hammering on him, threatening demonstrations during the annual spring event if he doesn't ignore the club's constitutional right to freedom of association for private organizations, and install women in positions of power. Advertisers have been frightened away, but that is not surprising. It doesn’t take much to frighten advertisers, even ones the size of Chrysler. Jesse Jackson can blackmail corporations like that with a single phone call threatening 20 demonstrators in front of the company’s headquarters. This is because the mainstream media, CBS included, will go anywhere Jesse sends them, and cover any event he orders them to cover, then run the segment exactly as he has edited it.
It's how the good Christian reverend manages to afford a wife and family and a mistress and family at the same time.

But, when Miss Burke started threatening reprisals against Tiger Woods, who this year following his recent surgery is swinging well and has a chance to win his third Masters in a row, she got an earful from another successful black man.
Bryant Gumbel, in a recent HBO sports show, labeled Burke’s attack on the Masters as “extortion.” When she compared sexism to racism, Gumbel said, "You don't worry about your safety on this, do you? Nobody gets shot over women's rights. Nobody gets beaten or lynched over women's rights!"
Tiger, interested in making golf history by winning his third consecutive (fourth overall) Green Jacket, has politely refused to kowtow to Miss Burke.
It all leaves Miss Burke floundering a bit, and has forced her to take alternate approaches. One of these is the aforementioned criticism that television is a male-dominated profession, which is why CBS is carrying the sexist Masters.


Since CBS is, just as she said, carrying the Masters, I looked up a few items on their site.
The morning CBS lineup is as follows: Up to the Minute, Morning News Lynne Pitts (Executive Producer), Market Watch Report and the Early Show: Here's the sexist staffing picture. Melissa McDermott (anchor), Susan McGinnis (Anchor), Alexis Christopheris (Anchor), Hanna Storm (Anchor), Julie Chen (Anchor), Rene Syler (Anchor), Harry Smith (Anchor)
A search of the network executive structure turned up women in charge. Investigative areas, general news, programming, they’re all over the place.
Four CBS morning news shows. Seven anchors. Six women and one man. All of it followed by the Martha Stewart Show. Television is dominated by men?
This is why Martha Burke is widely considered to be a complete joke.



Geeze, never heard of this Martha Burke before. She better be careful, what a bunch of SH*T!! I hate all that crap and one thing is right, it does (or could) give women a bad name. Same with all the PC (politically correct) junk being forced on us these days. Gives everyone a bad name.

I do tend to think that women who grow up in pool rooms are a unique breed. Sexual harassment is NOT<<see that NOT>> in our vocabulary & we can take any heat. We have seen and experienced a part of life that 99% of this fair sex would never understand or even have a clue about.

Phyllis Gumphrey

PS, I think you misread my post. I agree with you. You can say anything you want to me, just do it with respect. Thanks. ;)
 
Phylbert57 said:
Geeze, never heard of this Martha Burke before. She better be careful, what a bunch of SH*T!! I hate all that crap and one thing is right, it does (or could) give women a bad name. Same with all the PC (politically correct) junk being forced on us these days. Gives everyone a bad name.

I do tend to think that women who grow up in pool rooms are a unique breed. Sexual harassment is NOT<<see that NOT>> in our vocabulary & we can take any heat. We have seen and experienced a part of life that 99% of this fair sex would never understand or even have a clue about.

Phyllis Gumphrey

PS, I think you misread my post. I agree with you. You can say anything you want to me, just do it with respect. Thanks. ;)


Dear phyliss, what a nice post, what a nice lady. Yes, I guess we both mis read each other, that is so easy to do with the hard written word on this forum. All I can say Phyliss is you are Sarah are both, all right broads. Are you busy Friday night? :D
 
fast larry said:
Dear phyliss, what a nice post, what a nice lady. Yes, I guess we both mis read each other, that is so easy to do with the hard written word on this forum. All I can say Phyliss is you are Sarah are both, all right broads. Are you busy Friday night? :D



Friday??? Actually, I am too broke to do anything but play in the league this week. I will take a raincheck.

I am happy to say that I FINALLY got to play some 9-ball for a couple hours the other night. I am playing in 8-ball leagues all the time so that is all anyone wants to practice here in Fred-neck unless you want to gamble. I am not up to speed for that yet. Guess I will have to make more effort which seems impossible with my schedule.

Thanks for the reply.

Phyllis Gumphrey

Hey, how did you know I was broad? LMAO!! ;)
 
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