Question for the hard tip fans

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ArtOfTheCue

Matt
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I've always played with soft tips. However, the other day I ended up shooting with my break cue for a while (phenolic tip), and really liked the feel. I'm thinking my stroke has improved enough that I might prefer the hard ones now, but I don't know anything about them... Does anyone have some recommendations? I'll be at SBE next week, so I can have pretty much anything put on my cue no problem.
 
There are only two right answers to this (in my opinion) Ultraskin H, and a pressed triangle... they offer the best "grip" while maintaining the hard tip feel!
 
I've had very good luck with three different hard tips... Pressed triangle, Water buffalo, and Kamui black hard.
 
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Milk Dud, not the soft or med. ones that is called a milk but a sure shop milk dud....I soak and press my own and will put it up against many.....milk dud going once twice go milk dud
 
I like hard tips. While certainly preference for the feel has a lot to do with it, I find that I generally can get more spin/draw with a good hard tip.

I'm liking the Ultraskins also. Very good tip. Plenty of spin, and consistent.
 
Super Pro tips are cheap & hard, and very tough to beat if you like a hard tip. Sumo are great but pretty non-existent nowadays. I prefer non-layered hard tips. Triangles arew nice if treated & pressed. My favorite is a Korean tip made for billiard cues, not pool cues. They play, feel, & last better than anything else I have ever used. The only draw back is that they come only in 13mm, which makes it difficult to install on a 13mm ferrule & impossible to use on anything larger.
 
qbilder said:
Super Pro tips are cheap & hard, and very tough to beat if you like a hard tip. Sumo are great but pretty non-existent nowadays. I prefer non-layered hard tips. Triangles arew nice if treated & pressed. My favorite is a Korean tip made for billiard cues, not pool cues. They play, feel, & last better than anything else I have ever used. The only draw back is that they come only in 13mm, which makes it difficult to install on a 13mm ferrule & impossible to use on anything larger.
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Mr. Crips,
would you mind sharing the name of these korean tips?
 
Whats the best way to treat and press a triangle? As far as how long do you press it and what are treatment options? thanks in advance
 
I personally use and like the Wizard hards. I put mine on, cut about 3-4 layers off shape it up and play. Plays great to me. I tried the superpros, black diamond and a couple other "black layered tips" and they glazed over pretty quick and didn't hold chaulk that well. Of course this is my personal opinion and what I like.
 
I've also been a big fan of soft tips, then I bought a Viking with a rock hard tip and I loved the way it felt...played with it maybe six-eight hours, it was fun because it was different and I enjoyed seeing how different shots would work with the hard tip, but after awhile I switched back to my soft tipped cues and have never picked up the Viking again. By all means try everything you can to find to see what fits your game best, but just saying sometimes trying something new feels good at first because it makes shooting interesting for awhile, but may not be a long term improvement
 
ArtOfTheCue said:
I've always played with soft tips. However, the other day I ended up shooting with my break cue for a while (phenolic tip), and really liked the feel. I'm thinking my stroke has improved enough that I might prefer the hard ones now, but I don't know anything about them... Does anyone have some recommendations? I'll be at SBE next week, so I can have pretty much anything put on my cue no problem.
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Hard tips increase cb squirt at extreme english, also because cb leaves tip sooner than with a soft tip, bad stroke is minimized, especially for those that tends to steer the cb.
I think Lepro tips are good.
 
I saw the light when I began using the Ki-Tech Hard. It's made by our very own "The Renfro" here on AZ.

Great customer service. Good price. Extremely knowledgable.

More and more pro's are using them now, as well. Chris (TheRenfro) might be able to divulge exactly which ones.
 
poolguppy said:
I've also been a big fan of soft tips, then I bought a Viking with a rock hard tip and I loved the way it felt...played with it maybe six-eight hours, it was fun because it was different and I enjoyed seeing how different shots would work with the hard tip, but after awhile I switched back to my soft tipped cues and have never picked up the Viking again. By all means try everything you can to find to see what fits your game best, but just saying sometimes trying something new feels good at first because it makes shooting interesting for awhile, but may not be a long term improvement
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I change my ferrule to XET it is lighter. They are also shorter,by doing that it makes the front part of the cue lighter,there for it gives it more feel. That is one of the reasons micarta ferrules play good they are light. Seems to give me more feel.
 
naji said:
Hard tips increase cb squirt at extreme english, also because cb leaves tip sooner than with a soft tip, bad stroke is minimized, especially for those that tends to steer the cb.
I think Lepro tips are good.
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http://billiards.colostate.edu/threads/cue_tip.html#hardness

While your statement is technically true, I feel it is also misleading. The amount of added squirt due to a hard tip is only because of the added mass of the tip itself. Not because it's harder. The hardness actually reduces the squirt, but it is countered by the added mass of the tip being denser. So, if you had equal amounts of mass in both tips, such as a full soft tip and an worn hard tip, the hard tip would give you less squirt. The amounts of difference in squirt between the two tips are small in either case. Not enough to really be even a consideration.

To the OP, I use LePro hard tips. There are less good tips in a box these days, but the good ones are very good. And, inexpensive.
 
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There are quite a few great hard tips available. I haven't tried many of the newer hard tips. But here are my experiences.

Moori III Quick - maybe the best commercial tips ever; sorry I didn’t buy more at the time
Moori III Medium - nearly identical to Moori III Quick
Kamui Black Hard - too hard for me; too expensive to use on a break shaft
Kamui Black Medium - great tip; plays like a hard tip
Talisman Water Buffalo Hard - one excellent experience, second tip is very good
Talisman Pro Hard - excellent tip that I am liking more as I use it
Talisman Pro Extra Hard - good break tip
G2 Hard - great tip; not as hard as the others
Instroke Hard - one experience from ~7 years ago; great tip
Morakami Black Hard - very similar to Tiger Emerald, but higher priced
Triangle - can be a great tip; but inconsistent quality; not as hard as some of the others
LePro - no good personal experiences even though I tried several
 
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Efren said he always uses a Elk Master,might don't know if it is pressed. Shane said he uses a Kamui Brown Hard tip. I have a Kamui Medium Hard on my 2 Diveney Lake Salvage shafts and a Kamui Soft on my OB Classic shaft. I like them both and can't tell much difference in my game with either one. It depends on the player as Efren and Shane have proved. I use Blue Diamond chalk and have had less miscues with the Kamui Medium tip. Go figure.
 
I love love love milk dud tips. Hard as heck and feels amazing. So far I have only found one that's a little better. Crown tips are the best I've used so far. I haven't tried every tip under the sun obviously but crowns are quite spectacular.

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