Question on draw

BeeMan

BeeMan

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Hye everyone
Just wondering how everyone on this forum draws the ball.

Me personally, I hit the ball low, with cue as level as possible, and follow through... This has proven to be an extremely accurate method, and I am happy with my control..

But, after reading a few posts, mainly by Fast Larry, he mentions somethin about this, and from his posts I guess he implies that this is the wrong way to go about it..

I can draw the ball by keeping the butt up, and stabbing at the cue ball as I have read somewhere (pretty sure it was Fasts site, but not positive), but using this method, I get nowhere near the amount of draw, or the control of shot I get by using the first method..

What are your opinions on this matter?
How do you draw?
Is there a right and wrong way??

Thankyou
 
draw comes primarily from the cue accelerating thruogh the cueballs mass with the method you use. This will always be more accurate than a downward delivery(butt raised) but ,butt raised will put more r.p.m. on the cueball.It varies with the situation which to use but,practice both .
 
you'll get more draw if the cue is leveled...although in some shots you have no choice but to jack it up which is when you are hampered by something
 
When i draw the cueball i lower my bridge hand, Hold the shaft a little tighter, keep the cue as level as possible, Strike the cueball low but not to low to make it jump or miscue. Follow thru like you would a normal shot, I dont know if its worng or right but it works for me!
 
i have found using a level cue and a good fluid stoke will help you draw the ball very consistently.....if you are looking for more draw you can move lower on the ball or just a little more power on the stroke......always remeber k.i.s.s (keep it simple stupid) stay with what works and just try a little harder stoke or a different place on the ball......juston coleman
 
before my cue touches the cloth that's how low i used to go..i still use this method sometimes.....but now i tried compying my friend basically not as low but just below the center and i get just as much draw.
 
My feeling is that the cue should be at the same position you normally shoot from on all shots, just drop the tip down about two tips and follow through like on any shot. The cue is not level nor should you try to make it level.

I think the main thing about draw is that the distance is difficult to control if you are not consistant about where you put the cue tip. If you always keep it in the same place (mine is two tips below center), and stroke smoothly with good follow through, you can control the draw better. People are amazed at how far they can draw a low tip with a very gentle stroke as long as they are smooth and follow through.

The cue ball doesn't know that you followed through by the way. The main thing is you are not slowing the tip before it hits the cue ball, which is what a weak jab does.

Chris
 
The key is a release in your stroke. Like TATE said, you have to follow through, to ensure you don't jab at the cueball. When you jab, or stop short, you need muscles to do that. You want no muscle tension, some people say to imagine you are throwing the cue, the way I was taught was to throw your arm. Pretend the cue is not there, just let the weight of your arm plus the cue go thru the CB like it's not there, and let your arm come to a natural complete follow through with no tension in your grip or bicep. At the very end of the stroke, your bicep will flex, but that is natural.
 
The answer is 'it depends'. If you want to get a normal amount of draw on the cue ball, use a level cue and strike the cue ball below center about 1-2 tips. If you need to power draw the ball, like the 'Jimmy Moore Circular Draw Shot' that you might have seen Mike Massey or myself do on ESPN Trick Shot Magic, you do need very slight elevation. When I say slight, I mean VERY SLIGHT. I read Fasy Larry's post and it says to elevate, but it seems, after reading some of the replies, that a lot of people misunderstood him. If you elevate slightly, you do get more draw (Larry is correct), but your stroke has to be much better. If your stoke is not very straight and true, you will end up getting less draw or mis-cueing. When I do the circular draw shot, or some of the close power draw shots, where the cue ball is about 1/8 inch from the object ball, i elevate about 5 degrees. You don't need to hit much lower due to the elevation.

However, you do need to follow through. You can't jab at the ball. If you do, you might get some draw, but you will never get as much as if you follow through. I practice the circular draw shot in my basement daily and I have a white line about 6 inches long on my felt where my tip contacts the felt during the follow through on this shot.

Good luck.

Andy
 
Awesome shot, Andy.. I saw it this weekend. Congratulations on you advancing.

The circular draw is a tough shot.
 
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Bee Man...
using Yankee balls or "your" bar cue ball?
read Andys' statement again ... I agree...
 
ajrack
bar balls in Sydney (most bars), the CB tends to be larger...
And when I play snooker with he smaller balls (or pool rooms with snooker sized balls), both ways I play the draw the same way.
Thinkin about it, my cue is not perfectly level, but has a slicht elevation, due mainly because I don't want to break my knuckles on the rail..
And there is a mark left behind on the cloth by my tip, so I presume I'm hitting it along the lines that Andy has posted.

Thanks everyone, I got a lot of information
 
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