Questions about Antique Brunswick table

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I recently bought a brunswick Algeria table from the second owners. They had the table since 1973. It was in its original spot from new until 1973 and when I took it apart to move to my house, it had the person's name who put it together in 1973 inside it.

I am amazed at its beauty, but it is nicked up in many places from 100 years of getting beaten on. I want to get some advice and try to decide the direction I should take with it.

Should I have it refinished? I think the minimum I should do is have new veneers made for it on top of the rails since they are not in very good condition. I will keep this table and play on it for a long time, assuming someone does not offer me a Ferrari in trade for it, which will not happen.

Here is 1 picture of it and I will take a couple of pictures of the skirts and rails and legs to give a better idea of the overall condition of the table.

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I do plan on as a minimum putting new Simonis on it and new rubber. I also want to clean up the brass pieces and definately clean it all up. The pockets are still in very good repair and probably were bought in 1973.

It has a sticker, I believe, that shows patents from late 1800's to 1902. I assume the table was sold in 1902 or 1903. Would it be best to leave the sticker, varnish over it to protect it or is there a place to get reproduction things of this nature?

I do not have the hanging wall rack that came with the table, but I am trying to buy it back from the person who recently bought it before I got the table.

It also has the plaque saying brunswick (I need to look at the actual wording) at the foot of the table, but part of it is coming out (like it was inlaid).

It also has a weird chalk holder on each end of the table that swivels around.

It is missing a couple of the diamond inlays which appear to be ivory. Is there a place i can get these?

I will definately get some more pictures posted up later today, I just am trying to decide the direection I want to go with this table and appreciate any and all advice.
 
I've been working on my table for the last 6 months or so and they are a lot of work to restore. If your table is in good condition and can just be cleaned up to look good, then do that. If it has veneer missing and the rails are a mess, then think about restoring it. The rails have Brazilian Rosewood for the top piece and not veneer. My frame was all veneered. Lots of places on the web carry replacement parts. Post some more pictures and I'll help you the best I can. This is my first restoration of a pool table and it's been fun.. Take a look http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=55496
 
Refinishing can take considerable time and expense. You might try doing some cleanup first and see how that goes then decide if you want to go further. Old BBC tables typically had the nameplate installed similar to an inlay on the end rail so you should be able to repair that rather easily. You can check out this site for reproduction parts -
http://www.classicbilliards.net/html/antiquepooltablepartsivorypear.html
IMO - On older tables some scratchs, cig burns, etc tend to give the table character but what's acceptable will vary among owners.
 
Tom334 said:
I've been working on my table for the last 6 months or so and they are a lot of work to restore. If your table is in good condition and can just be cleaned up to look good, then do that. If it has veneer missing and the rails are a mess, then think about restoring it. The rails have Brazilian Rosewood for the top piece and not veneer. My frame was all veneered. Lots of places on the web carry replacement parts. Post some more pictures and I'll help you the best I can. This is my first restoration of a pool table and it's been fun.. Take a look http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=55496
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Nice work on the rail restoration!

I come to Dayton sometimes, to Airway Billiards, do you go there often?
 
Tom334 said:
I've been working on my table for the last 6 months or so and they are a lot of work to restore. If your table is in good condition and can just be cleaned up to look good, then do that. If it has veneer missing and the rails are a mess, then think about restoring it. The rails have Brazilian Rosewood for the top piece and not veneer. My frame was all veneered. Lots of places on the web carry replacement parts. Post some more pictures and I'll help you the best I can. This is my first restoration of a pool table and it's been fun.. Take a look http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=55496
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Thank you for the link! I am going to look into maybe just cleaning up the table and possibly cleaning up the brass a little bit and maybe redoing just the rails and leaving the skirts and legs alone.

The tables in that link are absolutely beautiful. I wonder what the Algeria table he has costs? I could not even venture a guess...

Thanks for the info, now I have some good idea of what to do. I just need to knock out a wall and make space to play...
 
1928 Brunswick Royal 9 Foot 4 Leg

http://www.brunswickbilliards.com/our_rich_history/antique_tables/royal.html

I'M IN THE SAME SITUATION WITH THIS TABLE. I CALLED A PRO RESTORER AND HE WANTED $3500 TO START - I'LL PASS ON THAT - HE WORKS ON DUNCAN $ FIFE CARD TABLES THAT SELL FOR $60,000 AND THE LIKE. I THINK I'LL JUST CLEAN IT UP TO PLAY ON. WHAT DO I CLEAN IT UP WITH. ANY SPECIAL WAY TO DO IT. THANKS DON'T YOU JUST LOVE AZ. ED FIELDS
 
paradox said:
Nice work on the rail restoration!

I come to Dayton sometimes, to Airway Billiards, do you go there often?
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Thanks Paradox... Never been there... Only been in the area a few years and spend too much time traveling for work... :(
 
antique table

I think you should call Ken Hash 410-256-8388 to discuss what you should to with the table as well as go to pooltableparts.com they have lots of parts,etc
paradox said:
I recently bought a brunswick Algeria table from the second owners. They had the table since 1973. It was in its original spot from new until 1973 and when I took it apart to move to my house, it had the person's name who put it together in 1973 inside it.

I am amazed at its beauty, but it is nicked up in many places from 100 years of getting beaten on. I want to get some advice and try to decide the direction I should take with it.

Should I have it refinished? I think the minimum I should do is have new veneers made for it on top of the rails since they are not in very good condition. I will keep this table and play on it for a long time, assuming someone does not offer me a Ferrari in trade for it, which will not happen.

Here is 1 picture of it and I will take a couple of pictures of the skirts and rails and legs to give a better idea of the overall condition of the table.

dOq4DkckDtbzVl3UTyCQEWe3vje8.jpg


I do plan on as a minimum putting new Simonis on it and new rubber. I also want to clean up the brass pieces and definately clean it all up. The pockets are still in very good repair and probably were bought in 1973.

It has a sticker, I believe, that shows patents from late 1800's to 1902. I assume the table was sold in 1902 or 1903. Would it be best to leave the sticker, varnish over it to protect it or is there a place to get reproduction things of this nature?

I do not have the hanging wall rack that came with the table, but I am trying to buy it back from the person who recently bought it before I got the table.

It also has the plaque saying brunswick (I need to look at the actual wording) at the foot of the table, but part of it is coming out (like it was inlaid).

It also has a weird chalk holder on each end of the table that swivels around.

It is missing a couple of the diamond inlays which appear to be ivory. Is there a place i can get these?

I will definately get some more pictures posted up later today, I just am trying to decide the direection I want to go with this table and appreciate any and all advice.
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