Racking 8 ball!

[olauzon]

i will, unconditionally, give the best damn rack i can rolling the bottom balls upward motion with the top ball as close to the white spot as possible without rolling off. i do not expect to get the same rack back even in A class and if it isn't stupid bad i don't care.

 

[RBLilly]

Well it seems to me that several people have different opinions on this, and I really wasn't expecting this many different opinions on the subject. I figured there would be an exact answer.

Truth is the exact answer would have to be the one where you all said that the foot spot is the point where the imaginary lines intersect.

That being said then the stupid paper dot, and the white dot can be thrown out the window on most bar tables around here! That is because most of them aren't centered correctly where these imaginary lines intersect!

However, even Joe Tucker's racking secrets tell you to rack deep on 8 ball for your opponent and rack high on 9 ball for your opponent.

Now there are many of you all in here that love his racking secrets, but I guess you all failed to listen to that part because only one other person in here agreed with me when I quoted Joe's secrets.

I am going to stick with my original thought on this night. He should have asked for me to move the rack up. If I didn't do it then he should have talked to his captain and had that captain tell my captain. However he broke them up with the rack the way I set them. So there shouldn't be any complaining or arguing. I gave him the rack he wanted after that, but he was still crying about that one rack all night.

My opinion is grow up and quit crying. It didn't help him win at all!

I will continue to rack the way I rack because this is the first guy that has ever complained about my rack.

When playing Fast Eddies nobody has cried about my rack. Hell most people run out with my racks because I rack so good! I have had a lot of practice!!!! LOL

Everywhere I have played nobody has complained about my rack.

I guess I got pissed the most because I know I rack good and this jerk got under my skin.

I am sorry if a lot of you all don't think I racked correctly. If I ever play you all say something to me and I will rack them the way you want them racked. I would have racked them the way he wanted, but he cried about it after the fact!

 

[DelaWho???]

Well I'm not in the IPT playing for a million dollars... so I am not picky about the rack. I will say something if the head ball rolls off the rest of the pack, common on barboxes, but other than that I just break them. When I rack however I try to rack as stated in my previous post. I hate to give someone something to blame their loss on.....

Banger

 

[PIRANHA]

I Have Found That If The Head Ball Is Not Tight Or Rolls Off ,as Some Times It Does. I Will Not Say Anything And Hit The Second Ball,that Really Causes To 8 Ball To Move Out. I've Made It A Lot On These Conditions.

 

[Snapshot9]

Did you know

in the Texas Express 9 ball rules, it is against the rules to tap the balls with another ball. It is loss of a game, and if it continues it is loss of the match.

Multiple tappings by different players result in the table having adjacent divets in the racking area, which result in balls rolling off after the rack is lifted. This is a problem that can become quite troublesome when racking.

Not to mention slow rolling balls over the racking area rolling off on a normal soft shot.

As long as the head ball is touching the spot. Most spots are not accurate to begin with as the center of the little white dot within the whole black dot is to be even with the center of the middle long rail diamonds.

 

[CreeDo]

head ball should be right on the spot, but due to troublesome pitted areas you do have to move it a bit, as bval noted. Still, it's worth the effort to TRY for a perfect rack even if it takes longer. I have a break where I try to make a particular ball, and if the rack is correct I do. If the rack is a bit high or low or crooked it often flies off the jaw of the pocket I wanted.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

From BCA rules.
3.2 RACKING THE BALLS
When racking the balls a triangle must be used, and the apex ball is to be spotted on the foot spot. All the balls must be lined up behind the apex ball and pressed together so that they all have contact with each other.


I would take this as the head ball is to be racked on the spot. NOT above it, NOT behind it. Even though there is a divot from others racking incorrectly, you can always get a rack to whereas one side of the head ball is touching the second ball. I then break towards that side. (Driving into the frozen spot). Heck, if worse comes to worse, let the guy rack his own and then inspect the rack.

The definition of "spot" for purposes of the rules is a point on the table, not an inch+ diameter area like the commercial protective "spots" stuck on tables over the real spot - which, by the way, have the center marked on them. I think the intent of the rule is clearly that you should rack the head ball as near to the center *point* as possible with a tight rack.

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