I read somewhere that Greenleaf ran 289 on a 10 foot table.But it is Mosconi (and Crane) who holds the high run record of 309 on a 10' table. Not sure if Greenleaf ever attempted such a thing, though.
I read somewhere that Greenleaf ran 289 on a 10 foot table.But it is Mosconi (and Crane) who holds the high run record of 309 on a 10' table. Not sure if Greenleaf ever attempted such a thing, though.
Charlie Ursitti, who kept, by far. the best records of anyone during the straight pool era, once gave me an interesting insight. He told me that, statistically speaking, Mosocni ran a game out on the first inning more often than Greenleaf, but added that, statistically speaking, Greenleaf won games in two innings or less more often than Mosconi. I've also met several who competed against both, and they were split over who was the greater of the two. The legend Irving Crane, a contemporary of both, was measurably behind them, and with no disrespect to Sigel and Mizerak, I don't see how they can possibly be considered to be on the same level as Mosconi and Greenleaf, the two most dominant players pool has ever seen.I'm old enough to have known many of the old time players who competed against both Greenleaf and Mosconi. To a man they ALL said Greenleaf was the better player.
Another debate is determining what the term "better" means. You have given some examples, but there is also the player who may be less consistent, but has the higher gear. I think Keith is maybe one example of this, and also Greenleaf appears to have had the higher gear (over Willie).Charlie Ursitti, who kept, by far. the best records of anyone during the straight pool era, once gave me an interesting insight. He told me that, statistically speaking, Mosocni ran a game out on the first inning more often than Greenleaf, but added that, statistically speaking, Greenleaf won games in two innings or less more often than Mosconi. I've also met several who competed against both, and they were split over who was the greater of the two. The legend Irving Crane, a contemporary of both, was measurably behind them, and with no disrespect to Sigel and Mizerak, I don't see how they can possibly be considered to be on the same level as Mosconi and Greenleaf, the two most dominant players pool has ever seen.
It's a debate for the ages, but as we know, Willie thought the world of Greenleaf's game.
Lots of 127's nearby, I can see how 526 became 527.Here's the list of records from Willie's 1958 "Pocket Billiards" book. Note how Mosconi (or his editor) breaks out 5x10 stats separately but somehow got the 526 wrong:
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I bought the paperback edition and it's well worth the $7.99.More on-topic, I'm reading the Greenleaf book and it's a quick, enjoyable read. Very much worth the 0.99 for the kindle version!