Ran a 23 today here is the ending pattern.

center pocket

center pocket

It's just a hobby, but a fun one.
Silver Member
I have been trying to play some better patterns and really look hard for stop shot position and rolling position on all shots. I ran a 23 today and here is how the run ended

CueTable Help



I know the shot on the 3 was easy but I couldnt get any good shape or trust breaking those balls out, and I didnt want to shoot the 6 because it was a good break ball. So I noticed that if I rolled to the end rail and back and shot the 10 in the far corner i could get out.

CueTable Help



and this is what happened.

CueTable Help



I was sick that I rolled past that position zone and didnt have a shot at finishing the run. It is not that hard to roll that ball it just rolled farther than I thought and at a slightly different angle.

Do you guys think that for the situation, I played the right shot???
 
How about shootin the 6, draw the cueball back into the 10 or maybe into the 15 and take the 8 ball as your break ball?
(if somebody explains to me how i can use the cuetable i will do that:D)
 
gentleman789 said:
How about shootin the 6, draw the cueball back into the 10 or maybe into the 15 and take the 8 ball as your break ball?
(if somebody explains to me how i can use the cuetable i will do that:D)
Click to expand...

The real problem in this layout is the 1 and the 15. The 3 is on the rail, you have a chance to shoot it - but you have better, higher percentage options here. If it was me and I wasn't able to fall on the 1 or the 15, then I would just shoot the 6 right now. Yes, its a good break ball, but its the key to solving the 1-15 problem. I'd judt shoot a stop shot.

CueTable Help



From the current position, I would not draw into the 10, I would just stop dead for either the 1 or the 15 next. If I am sacrificing the 6, and using the 8 as my break ball, then the 10 is the most effective key ball option to fall correctly on the 8.

As a break ball, the 8 is a little high, but its something. Sometimes you have to scarifice a ball like the 6 due to poor position play, and having the 8 ball there makes it a smaller sacrifice (to me at least).
 
I need to start laying out my end patterns better in my head, and then on paper. This is a great way to get the feedback needed to make it from one rack to the next.

Keep up the good work. I need to start building runs more than a rack myself.
 
if possible, i would have shot the 8, stop there for the 1, go 2 rails around the 6 to the 3 and then to the 15 and so on. If not possible to stop there, i would have shot the 6 and draw into the 15 to move it out for a breakshot.
 
i agree with blackjack, you must sacrifice the 6ball. but don't worry because if you fail to get on the 8 ball for a break, you can just move it when nobody is looking to continue your run. that's really the way to go in a situation like this. ;)
 
Stop hot outs are great when they are available, but i dont see the harm in shooting the 6 with a little draw nudging into the 10 and possible 15 solving that riddle..

the 8 is also a great breakshot, problem being that you dont know what you are gonna have to link up with it well.

-Steve
 
the 15 isnt dead off the 1 or vice versa. You cant do a stop shot on the 6 because their was about a 10 degree angle. Remember I am making the cue table diagrams from memory that is about 3 hours ago.

Every one pretty much confirmed what I had guessed, I should have shot the 6 and move the balls clustered together. That is definitly the higher percentage play in this situation.
 
center pocket said:
....I should have shot the 6 and move the balls clustered together. That is definitly the higher percentage play in this situation.
Click to expand...

i read in a pool book where the author recommended against being "set in stone" on a run. this is a case where i think you wanted that 6ball Break-ball too badly and it caused you to take a low percentage position shot.
 
I just ran 22. First time I have been in the 20s for about 3 weeks. I'm trimming the video right now and will burn it when that is done. I don't know how to post it and I'm too lazy to learn.

Dave Nelson
 
What did you do after you shot the 8 ball? Why did your run end there? Did you try to shoot the 6 in the side and bump the 10 over to where it would be a possible side pocket break shot?

Dave Nelson
 
Sausage

I have tried Vimeo and couldn't make it work. Inept doesn't begin to describe me when it comes to this video stuff. However, since you have been so good as to take an interest and provide this link I will try again.

Dave Nelson
 
Center Pocket

It also looks as though the 10 would have passed which would have taken care of the 1/15.

Dave Nelson
 
dave; you can alway PM me if you are having specific problems at vimeo and i'll help if possible. there's a big, blue "upload a video" button on the right of your homepage screen then you can "choose a file to upload" which will open a file upload window for you to search your hard drive for the video you just made. if it's still in your camera, you can drag the video out to your desktop (or wherever) or upload it directly from your camera.
 
Last edited:
Pattern

There was enough balls still left on the table to work with.
I would of shot the 6-ball. It was a very safe & high % ball to shoot, softly sending the cue ball into the 10,1 &15. One of those balls most likely would of set up as a good break ball, if not the 8-ball was also a good high ball break shot and even the 3-ball is a good secondary break ball.
 
Last edited:
Seems to me that you don't have to rearrange the 1-15...you have the perfect angle to snip draw the CB into the 10 and pick them off one by one. Pages 2 & 3 show the scenario I would be hoping to achieve.

CueTable Help

 
mosconiac said:
Seems to me that you don't have to rearrange the 1-15...you have the perfect angle to snip draw the CB into the 10 and pick them off one by one. Pages 2 & 3 show the scenario I would be hoping to achieve.


On paper, it looks great and it is worth the try but the shooter has to be perfect on hitting the 10-ball correct & stopping the cue ball.
It is hard to tell, if I would play it your way or the way I described. I would have to be at the table itself to decide but with both ways.
(The 6-Ball should of been shot first).
Click to expand...
 
Last edited:
14-1StraightMan said:
There was enough balls still left on the table to work with.
I would of shot the 6-ball. It was a very safe & high % ball to shoot, softly sending the cue ball into the 10,1 &15. One of those balls most likely would of set up as a good break ball, if not the 8-ball was also a good high ball break shot and even the 3-ball is a good secondary break ball.
Click to expand...

i second that commotion. :grin-square:
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top