Rating Inflation in FargoRate

[jtompilot]

Those percentiles don't mean the same thing. The top 0.1% was made up of 22 players four years ago while it's 62 players now.

Taken at face value, this would suggest that the 60th best player in the world now is as equally skilled as the 20th best player in the world four years ago. Unlikely. These are largely the same folks who are playing largely at the same level.

It's true that the ratings are only important in a relative sense. However, we have gotten used to the 600, 700, 800 levels "meaning something" and that meaning seems to be drifting slowly over time. I wonder when we'll see Fargo ratings 2.0 with the great recentering

The pool went from 22,000 to 62,000 so that’s basically the same increase as the top 22 players went to 62 players, so I guess that’s about the same increase as the price of GAS

 

[iusedtoberich]

Here is an update of the numbers


FOUR YEARS AGO
There are about 22,700 established players now

Top 1% 748
Top 0.1% 797
bottom 1% 225
bottom 0.1% 121

The average is 502.4, median is 506.6
standard deviation is 111

NOW

There are about 62,150 established players

Top 1% 726
Top 0.1% 795
Bottom 1% 220
Bottom 0.1% 122

The average is 486, median is 490
standard deviation is 106

Does this mean that the top pros are more separated from the local heroes today than 4 years ago (rating wise)? I follow a few local players (low level pros) and their ratings have not really budged in 4 years. But the top, top, top, pros have gone up in those 4 years.

 

[pw98]

Those percentiles don't mean the same thing. The top 0.1% was made up of 22 players four years ago while it's 62 players now.

Taken at face value, this would suggest that the 60th best player in the world now is as equally skilled as the 20th best player in the world four years ago. Unlikely. These are largely the same folks who are playing largely at the same level.

It's true that the ratings are only important in a relative sense. However, we have gotten used to the 600, 700, 800 levels "meaning something" and that meaning seems to be drifting slowly over time. I wonder when we'll see Fargo ratings 2.0 with the great recentering

Yup. If suddenly all the players over 700 died tomorrow and were removed from the system then everyone would bump up and the 690s would become 800s...

 

[justnum]

The statistical anomalies cited is why multiple measures are needed.
If DrDave and Fargorate combined forces, then everyone can have pre assessment measure and a post assessment measure.

The advantage of DrDave BU score as a standardized measures gives a nice baseline.
The advantage of Fargorate is a longitudinal student.

Putting both measures together will give players an idea of if they are progressing at the convergence rate that most pool prodigies demonstrate. If they are not pool prodigies than adjustments to their training can be taken.

Also needed would be a weekly performance measure. Pool players benefit from having some short term performance goals or stats to keep their mind focused.