Never can tell, but I'll give benefit of the doubt in this case.
Rebuttal by Johann Chua re Waxgate
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Take a cloth out of your bag to 'Clean' the CB with saying it was dirty. "Force of habit." "I always clean them B4 and during play," you can say. Cloth is impregnated w carnauba. I have several lying around from wiping down shafts. Not that I'd ever use one on a CB.
There's better things than wax.
I don't use those either.
You don't glob it on there. But granted, small amounts do transfer.
I was speaking more about a hit and run type deal. I wouldn't recommend anyone try this.
I've seen it done and saw the results, but never went back to that particular place to see what happened afterwards.
There's as many ways to cheat as there are people. One's only limited by one's imagination. I can think of a myriad of ways to employ a substance on the CB. Or pocket facings for that matter.
If you can find an aerospace UV inhibitor, the type used on fighter jet cockpits and spacecraft windows, that stuff is scary slick. And expensive as hell. I can only imagine what it might do to balls or cloth.
Earthquake. Hurricane is a completely different pool player.
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You wouldn't happen to have some white out for brain farts would ya??
I'm doing shit like this more and more often and it's scary. Can't even count on recall anymore. Aging sucks!! Thanks for the correction.
You wouldn't happen to have some white out for brain farts would ya??
You wear a glove soaked in silicone or teflon, just a little bit in the palm area would do it. When you break you rub it on the ball. You can get better coverage if you rub the cue ball against the rail under the pretense of cleaning it. You don't actually need as much as you think. Or when you get ball in hand. It can be done. It's probably a lot harder to go unnoticed in televised matches, but still it can be done.
Personally, the only thing I've tested out was teflon spray (for airhockey tables) and one other spray that maybe was silicone wax (can't quite remember what it was exactly) when I was trying to do some trick shots. It's horrible stuff and I would strongly advice against doing it unless it's on a table where the cloth is going to be changed (which was when I tried it). It stinks and does not wash out easily, but boy oh boy does a little go a long way...I sprayed a little on a cloth meant for cleaning glasses and rubbed it on the ball. Of course I didn't have to hide it or anything, but it would be super easy to do this surreptitiously if you wanted. If you cut a ball with a slow stun shot without adjusting, you are going to miss it. If you shoot a draw shot, you will overdraw wildly. Spin will grab differently on the rails etc.. It is absolutely going to confuse the hell out of anyone not expecting it.
As far as this particular instance..I don't know.
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Apologies J. It happens.
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Public figures, like politicians and celebrities, have to show more than negligence. Public figures have to show that the defendant acted with "actual malice." Actual malice means the defendant made a false statement knowing it was false or with reckless disregard for the truth of the statement. Many defendants argue that what they said about the plaintiff wasn't defamatory because it was true or that it was an opinion and not a fact.
Libel on Facebook in an international context presents complex legal challenges concerning jurisdiction, applicable laws, platform responsibility, and the balancing of free speech with reputation protection. The only one who wins usually in defamation cases is usually the lawyers.
I watched a Window's Open podcast yesterday with Molina Mike and Mike Panozzo on this topic, and I agree with Mike Panozzo, it is "lemmings." [Nota Bene: I had to look up the meaning of "lemmings."]
I also agree with Molina Mike: "Pool players don't necessarily know how to handle themselves on social media, like it's a brand-new world, you know, and the way that they can kind of shoot themselves in the foot, at times, more often than not"—[reminding me (JAM) of Joshua Filler]—"becomes a little cringy and a little awkward. And then it just becomes a little like, oh, man, I don't think you realize, like, in the bigger picture of things, what's going to be affected by it, you know?"
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Defamation is a complicated area of law when someone makes a false statement about you—verbally or in writing—that damages your reputation. Verbal defamation is called "slander." Written defamation is called "libel." Online defamation happens on various platforms, including Facebook.
Public figures, like politicians and celebrities, have to show more than negligence. Public figures have to show that the defendant acted with "actual malice." Actual malice means the defendant made a false statement knowing it was false or with reckless disregard for the truth of the statement. Many defendants argue that what they said about the plaintiff wasn't defamatory because it was true or that it was an opinion and not a fact.
Libel on Facebook in an international context presents complex legal challenges concerning jurisdiction, applicable laws, platform responsibility, and the balancing of free speech with reputation protection. The only one who wins usually in defamation cases is usually the lawyers.
I watched a Window's Open podcast yesterday with Molina Mike and Mike Panozzo on this topic, and I agree with Mike Panozzo, it is "lemmings." [Nota Bene: I had to look up the meaning of "lemmings."]
I also agree with Molina Mike: "Pool players don't necessarily know how to handle themselves on social media, like it's a brand-new world, you know, and the way that they can kind of shoot themselves in the foot, at times, more often than not"—[reminding me (JAM) of Joshua Filler]—"becomes a little cringy and a little awkward. And then it just becomes a little like, oh, man, I don't think you realize, like, in the bigger picture of things, what's going to be affected by it, you know?"
%. A little forward thinking goes a long way! Sort of reminds me of this forum. 
In fact sometimes I need to look in the mirror!
Wasn't Panozzo quick to jump online and criticize Robbie Capito last year for fidgeting in his chair? I'd argue doctoring the ball is a far more egregious offenseDefamation is a complicated area of law when someone makes a false statement about you—verbally or in writing—that damages your reputation. Verbal defamation is called "slander." Written defamation is called "libel." Online defamation happens on various platforms, including Facebook.
Public figures, like politicians and celebrities, have to show more than negligence. Public figures have to show that the defendant acted with "actual malice." Actual malice means the defendant made a false statement knowing it was false or with reckless disregard for the truth of the statement. Many defendants argue that what they said about the plaintiff wasn't defamatory because it was true or that it was an opinion and not a fact.
Libel on Facebook in an international context presents complex legal challenges concerning jurisdiction, applicable laws, platform responsibility, and the balancing of free speech with reputation protection. The only one who wins usually in defamation cases is usually the lawyers.
I watched a Window's Open podcast yesterday with Molina Mike and Mike Panozzo on this topic, and I agree with Mike Panozzo, it is "lemmings." [Nota Bene: I had to look up the meaning of "lemmings."]
I also agree with Molina Mike: "Pool players don't necessarily know how to handle themselves on social media, like it's a brand-new world, you know, and the way that they can kind of shoot themselves in the foot, at times, more often than not"—[reminding me (JAM) of Joshua Filler]—"becomes a little cringy and a little awkward. And then it just becomes a little like, oh, man, I don't think you realize, like, in the bigger picture of things, what's going to be affected by it, you know?"
There might be residue investigators can use.
I have a great deal of respect for Michael Panozzo. He is much more knowledgeable than most about a variety of pool subject matters. After listening to the podcast, it is my opinion that he thought posting about lawyers may not be productive for all persons involved. I agree with him.
I noticed about an hour ago, Johann Chua thanked everybody at Matchroom, his sponsors, the Saudi hosts, et cetera for a great tournament and how much he appreciate it. I think he's turned the corner on this topic, which is a good thing for everyone involved.
Does waxing happen in pro events? Well, apparently, it does. It seems to be the latest in pool's dirty little secrets. But there are some players like Johann, Fedor, Shane, and others who are held in high regard by pool fans around the world. I think Matchroom and other pool promoters will figure out a way to thwart this from happening in the future, just like they did when they changed the rules at the WPC in Manila when everybody was doing the bird break.