Received my Pro 1/CTE DVD today

[Patrick Johnson]

i off this week so i have time

Oh, joy.

now for every shot on the table there would actually be 8 visuals and actually 14 total pivots available.

You're talking about total cuts to the left and to the right; I'm talking about cuts in one direction (left or right). Either way it's not even nearly enough without substantial "estimation" for almost every shot.

pj
chgo

 

[stan shuffett]

All you want to do is twist and muddy the water. I have been as clear as a bell.
2 lines for ALL cte shots, an sim and a sight line.
I have explained this many times. You are well aware of what I teach!!
Stan Shuffett

 

[Patrick Johnson]

All you want to do is twist and muddy the water. I have been as clear as a bell.
2 lines for ALL cte shots, an sim and a sight line.
I have explained this many times. You are well aware of what I teach!!
Stan Shuffett

We don't seem to be communicating, Stan. John Barton said the "CTE visual" consists of the secondary aim line; I said that's not what you teach. Maybe you want to complain to him?

pj
chgo

 

[champ2107]

No, it's not - as Stan himself has said in recent posts. But let's ignore what Stan says for now...

If you use CB edge-to-OB fractions as your "visual" (that's what you're saying), then you're limiting yourself to something like four visuals times two pivots (left or right) to cover every shot on the table - which is clearly impossible.

So if you're right about the "visual", all you've done is kick the estimating can one step down the road - to the "pivot". Take your pick.

pj
chgo

Oh, joy.


You're talking about total cuts to the left and to the right; I'm talking about cuts in one direction (left or right). Either way it's not even nearly enough without substantial "estimation" for almost every shot.

pj
chgo

you were not clear on that post as to what exactly you were saying. ok so we have covered the visuals and pivots. Now tell me how many different physical positional alignments are available to me if we were to move the cue ball and object ball to a million different positions on the table using the cte/pro1 visuals and pivots?

 

[stan shuffett]

PJ, I reread your post. I have the proper perspective now.
Thanks for the prompt to reread on what you were saying.
My first mistake today and not even out of bed.

Long weekend,
Stan

 

[stan shuffett]

PJ, Any cb ob relationship for a cte shot produces 1 shot.
PRO1 left or right movements will get you to that one shot.
The eyes lead the body. Our rectangular table won't allow cookie cutter stances.
I can shoot a zero angle shot in a typical stance or I can cross my legs/feet and shhot the same zero angle shot.
Our game is extremely visual and our body learns to efficiently follow, it's for stance or stroke.
Stan Shuffett

 

[stan shuffett]

Dang I phone,, WHETHER it's for stance or stroke.
Stan

 

[Patrick Johnson]

...Now tell me how many different physical positional alignments are available to me if we were to move the cue ball and object ball to a million different positions on the table using the cte/pro1 visuals and pivots?

Tell me why it matters to this topic.

tell me what this topic is, if you can.

pj
chgo

 

[Patrick Johnson]

PJ, I reread your post. I have the proper perspective now.
Thanks for the prompt to reread on what you were saying.
My first mistake today and not even out of bed.

Long weekend,
Stan

LOL. I'm on my fourth or fifth mistake of the day already, Stan. You gotta get up earlier to keep up with me...

pj
chgo

 

[champ2107]

No, it's not - as Stan himself has said in recent posts. But let's ignore what Stan says for now...

If you use CB edge-to-OB fractions as your "visual" (that's what you're saying), then you're limiting yourself to something like four visuals times two pivots (left or right) to cover every shot on the table - which is clearly impossible.

So if you're right about the "visual", all you've done is kick the estimating can one step down the road - to the "pivot". Take your pick.

pj
chgo

Oh, joy.


You're talking about total cuts to the left and to the right; I'm talking about cuts in one direction (left or right). Either way it's not even nearly enough without substantial "estimation" for almost every shot.

pj
chgo

you were not clear on that post as to what exactly you were saying. ok so we have covered the visuals and pivots. Now tell me how many different physical positional alignments are available to me if we were to move the cue ball and object ball to a million different positions on the table using the cte/pro1 visuals and pivots?

Tell me why it matters to this topic.

tell me what this topic is, if you can.

pj
chgo

so im not making any sense to you and you dont see where im going with this?

 

[Patrick Johnson]

so im not making any sense to you

You hardly ever make any sense to me.

and you dont see where im going with this?

Rather than talking about talking (as usual), why not just "get there" and say what's on your mind?

pj
chgo

 

[champ2107]

You hardly ever make any sense to me.


Rather than talking about talking (as usual), why not just "get there" and say what's on your mind?

pj
chgo

well i guess i shouldn't waste your time then and i will let the guys that know what there talking about discuss cte with you

 

[champ2107]

this is where im at now on paper and now know why a B out is difficult to read. i understand the purpose of the reference line 99% and the pivot now, i think. I get the Hal Houle's 3-angle system now also.

A - C = B
A -C = C - A
B = A -C

i left out something here on purpose in the above.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

this is where im at now on paper and now know why a B out is difficult to read. i understand the purpose of the reference line 99% and the pivot now, i think. I get the Hal Houle's 3-angle system now also.

A - C = B
A -C = C - A
B = A -C

i left out something here on purpose in the above.

You left out whatever sense this was supposed to make.

pj
chgo

 

[8pack]

You left out whatever sense this was supposed to make.

pj
chgo

How come you cant understand things? Its obvious .

A - C = B
A -C = C - A
B = A -C

4...a's
4...c's
2....b's
He left out 2 b's.
Now does it make since?

Sorry left out the 't...lol

 

[champ2107]

How come you cant understand things? Its obvious .

A - C = B
A -C = C - A
B = A -C

4...a's
4...c's
2....b's
He left out 2 b's.
Now does it make since?

Sorry left out the 't...lol

not what i mean and I was curious if anyone could figure it out or has figure it out im thinking now, the ctel is the key and makes it all work? i still have to take this to the table but im sure im right, i think lol

 

[8pack]

not what i mean and I was curious if anyone could figure it out or has figure it out im thinking now, the ctel is the key and makes it all work? i still have to take this to the table but im sure im right, i think lol

Just having a little fun.Champ you seem really caught up in this cte stuff .
Hope you dont make it your only way of pocketing balls.You might just hurt your progress.Not telling what to do just trying to be helpful.
And one more thing here,leave pj alone.The guys not worth it.(he does say some funny sh!t though)

 

[champ2107]

Just having a little fun.Champ you seem really caught up in this cte stuff .
Hope you dont make it your only way of pocketing balls.You might just hurt your progress.Not telling what to do just trying to be helpful.
And one more thing here,leave pj alone.The guys not worth it.(he does say some funny sh!t though)

i just decided to figure out how it works the other day is all, it keeps me busy and thinking. PJ keeps quoting every post i make all the time with his sarcastic comments and i just fire back, he knows this and it has been going on the last 3 years, same shit different day with him, i actually put him on ignore the other day, so if you don't quote him, i wont see what hes crying about :grin::grin:

 

[barking]

A=c
b=0
lol

 

[champ2107]

A=c
b=0
lol

im pretty sure it goes like this :grin:

A - C = B
A -C = C - A
B = A -C

if im right i will share the meaning of this tomorrow