Red Circle Cue Balls
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Which? Blue dot and blue circle are two different things. The blue circle is a Brunswick Centennial ball, and plays great with the centennial set. The blue dot is basically a knock of one of these. It is typically a fair amount lighter.
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KMRUNOUT
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Although different resins, the Blue Circle and Blue Dot are not much different in weight. Both come in at 166 to 168 grams, from the current Aramith. You can't tell a two gram weight difference. Hard to be sure with the old ones from Albany Billiard Ball Company, as it was a long time ago, but as I recall, the weight was similar between the two.
Hope this helps.
All the best,
WW
Oh, believe me, I can come up with more... Scales and calipers are your best friends to end arguments.
All the best,
WW
Wrong. All made by Aramith, just marketed for Brunswick for the Blue Circle. Aramith also makes the Blue Dot cue ball, so it can hardly be called a knock off, even if different resin. See the attachment.
All the best,
WW
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That's because they like to show off and show all the newbies how to draw the cue ball a table-length and a half.
Maniac
Yep, stick with us, and you'll be wearing potatoes as big as diamonds. Get it?
Seriously, there are so many half-truths and downright un-thruths spread throughout the billiard world on cue balls alone, it is comical. The Red Circle is lighter, the Red Circle is smaller, the Measle is bigger and heavier. The others are way lighter.
None of it is true, as long as it comes from Aramith. The current sizes and weights are the same, given normal manufacturing tolerances. The difference is in the resin compound, and they do react differently off the cue tip as well as object balls.
The wear on cue balls is also a significant variable, and it fools people. There are so many well-worn Blue Circle cue balls that draw a mile that people think it draws easy. It doesn't; it's just worn, and digs into the cloth when you draw, due to it's smaller size.
The Red Circle cue ball is a bit different, as I'm not aware of a set of object balls with the same resin. That's a big difference when debating what the Red Circle does, and what it doesn't. But, there will always be those who say, this one draws a mile, gotta be lighter! Oh, man.
All the best,
WW
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Yep, stick with us, and you'll be wearing potatoes as big as diamonds. Get it?
Seriously, there are so many half-truths and downright un-thruths spread throughout the billiard world on cue balls alone, it is comical. The Red Circle is lighter, the Red Circle is smaller, the Measle is bigger and heavier. The others are way lighter.
None of it is true, as long as it comes from Aramith. The current sizes and weights are the same, given normal manufacturing tolerances. The difference is in the resin compound, and they do react differently off the cue tip as well as object balls.
The wear on cue balls is also a significant variable, and it fools people. There are so many well-worn Blue Circle cue balls that draw a mile that people think it draws easy. It doesn't; it's just worn, and digs into the cloth when you draw, due to it's smaller size.
The Red Circle cue ball is a bit different, as I'm not aware of a set of object balls with the same resin. That's a big difference when debating what the Red Circle does, and what it doesn't. But, there will always be those who say, this one draws a mile, gotta be lighter! Oh, man.
All the best,
WW
Well - I have to admit - I've been pretty lucky. Back in 70s and 80s if I had free time in the day I went over to Jim Marino's pool hall, and he'd teach me basics and good fundamentals. Evenings were either watching the good players there - or out playing bar bangers. Thing is I usually keep my mouth shut and my ears open - so I've heard all kind of stories. Since then I've played a bit off and on. Started back for the umteenth time this past May in an APA league - had to take over captain duties in August(?) or so for both 8 and 9 ball. (although I'm not really a 9 ball fan) . Information seems more available these days - but the question is sorting out the good stuff from the BS. Thankfully you folks have been very generous with your help and advice. It is appreciated.
I believe this, but I also have the belief (through real-life experiences) that although the red circle (Aramith) is the same weight as other cue balls, it does "play" lighter. I cannot count the many times I have overdrawn a red circle because I rarely play with one. That darn thing has gotten me into some bad shape over the years.
Maniac
You're partly right, but not exactly. The Red Circle does not play lighter, but it plays faster than most other cue balls. It's the different resin compound used. It tends to spin easier because chalk and dirt doesn't adhere to it, and it may be a bit more lively. A good test is play with any other cue ball, then the red circle, then clean them both. The Red Circle cleans up with next to no effort, while other cue balls take a bit of effort to get all the chalk marks out. It's a fast cue ball, not a lighter cue ball. But, you are the closest so far.
All the best,
WW
Yup, I'm going back to the early 90's amd the room I played in had all Cents, and I'm sure they were fairly old at that point. I always liked it better because I could seem to move around the blues a lot more and a lot easier too. I was always told that was because they were lighter than the reds. The blues started fading out and eventually it was all red. I'd always get a little excited if by chance once in a great while someone handed me a rack with a blue In it lol.
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Aramith Red Circle Cue Balls
Aramith Red Circle cue balls are made with Aramith's proprietary Super Aramith phenolic resin ... Aramith, a division of Saluc makes the cue and billiard balls in the world ... Aramith billiard balls are made by Saluc in Belgium You can learn more here at this web address .... http://www.saluc.com/html/billiard/ ... Buy the best ... !~
Cyclops ball are made in China and are in my humble opinion an attempt to gain market share against most notably Aramith/Saluc ... I also feel that Diamond promotes these balls because of the cost factor of Aramith products and the return that they gain from sales of Cyclops billiard ball products ... http://www.cycloppoolballs.com/ ... !~
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Aramith Red Circle cue balls are made with Aramith's proprietary Super Aramith phenolic resin ... Aramith, a division of Saluc makes the cue and billiard balls in the world ... Aramith billiard balls are made by Saluc in Belgium You can learn more here at this web address .... http://www.saluc.com/html/billiard/ ... Buy the best ... !~
Cyclops ball are made in China and are in my humble opinion an attempt to gain market share against most notably Aramith/Saluc ... I also feel that Diamond promotes these balls because of the cost factor of Aramith products and the return that they gain from sales of Cyclops billiard ball products ... http://www.cycloppoolballs.com/ ... !~
You can buy and use what you want, but for me it's Aramith ... !~
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