Reducing weight on a Mottey

Junkyarddog

Junkyarddog

Kelly
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I have a Mottey I'd like to reduce the weight 0.5-0.75 oz. The weight bolt out just isn't enough. Can I have it drilled out that much? If so Who should I trust to do this? How can I get ahold of them?

Thanks in advance.

Note: I have already tried to get ahold of Mr. Mottey and was unsuccessful.
 
Paul isn't making cues anymore. Jim white took over the buisness. And reputible repair man should be able to help. Without seein the cue and it's components it's hard tell you a direction
 
Is the weightbolt out of it or in it? If it has a steel bolt you can change it to aluminum bolt that will take alot if weight out
 
dave sutton said:
Is the weightbolt out of it or in it? If it has a steel bolt you can change it to aluminum bolt that will take alot if weight out
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Unfortunately, the current weight bolt is aluminum. I did put in the smallest aluminum bolt I could find in it but the weight adjustment was to small to notice any different. There really isn't much difference with no weight bolt at all as well.
 
Aluminum bolts weight nothing. Sounds like u need work done. Send it to Scot at proficient billiards. They have a site. Same name
 
Average Aluminum weight bolts weigh around .04 oz. What kind of joint and screw? Mr Mottey's cues have good value, FIND JIM WHITE. A cue maker drilled out one of my cues once with a 5/8 drill, I was quite pissed. Needless to say, I lost all respect for him.
 
Fwiw i agree with mike. However Jim took a job and doesn't have the time he once had. So time may be a factor. That's why I recommended Scot at proficient or Ryan at rat cues. Find a reputible guy not a hack that will just quickly gut your cue and be done. That's way is incorrect but to properly diagnose the problem that person will need cue in hand. If it has a SS joint maybe changing to ivory will help. Changes the hit but maybe the only way
 
dave sutton said:
Fwiw i agree with mike. However Jim took a job and doesn't have the time he once had. So time may be a factor. That's why I recommended Scot at proficient or Ryan at rat cues. Find a reputible guy not a hack that will just quickly gut your cue and be done. That's way is incorrect but to properly diagnose the problem that person will need cue in hand. If it has a SS joint maybe changing to ivory will help. Changes the hit but maybe the only way
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you could always thin sleeve SS over phenolic too, that would save some weight. and keep the hit closer to original.
 
greyghost said:
you could always thin sleeve SS over phenolic too, that would save some weight. and keep the hit closer to original.
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Just changing a 5/16-14 stainless pin to titanium saves 10 grams which is well over a 1/3 ounce. Changing the steel joint from a .625 thread to a .750 saves another 1/3 ounce.

Dick
 
rhncue said:
Just changing a 5/16-14 stainless pin to titanium saves 10 grams which is well over a 1/3 ounce. Changing the steel joint from a .625 thread to a .750 saves another 1/3 ounce.

Dick
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thanks for the technical data....i just figured that it would be a good option to reduce weight...know i know it would work at least as well as changing the pin.

Do you know if anyone has ever tried to have the SS sleeved on the inside of the joint and surrounded by a lighter material on the outside?

Seems to me that you could reduce the weight even more than sleeving the steel over the phenolic? You could probably use a good number of lighter hardwoods for the joint collar as the steel would take the lick.

That would be like the Sneakiest Pete in the world lol.

anyone else ever tried something like this, i may vaguely have heard of it done but i can't put my finger on if i heard of it or if i just made it up. (someone has to have tried that before)

thanks for the info,
Keebie
 
I would caution you against taking a lot of weight off of just the joint end of your cue. Such as joint pin stainless joint etc.. You would be well served to keep it balanced properly no matter what steps are required to accomplish the end result. I would send it to a very knowledgeable cue maker for this kind of surgery...Calling Dr. Webb....

Nothing sucks like a back heavy pool cue!
 
Thank you very much everyone for the replies. I'm going to try and get ahold of Jim white. If he doesn't have the time I will send it to proficient. Thanks again!
 
Hi,

Put a collet on the butt sleeve, drill a 1/2 inch hole about 3 inches deep. Make a 1/2 inch dowel 1 1/2 inch long. Put the cue and the dowel on a scale. If the cue needs to be a little lighter, drill it out a little more or cut the dowel down a little. If it is too light make the dowel longer or change to ebony or a heavier wood.

Then epoxy in the dowel, face it with a small boring bar, drill and tap it to 3/8 16 and put it on the scale for the final check. At this point you can always put a weight bolt in to tweak it a little heavier if needed.

Rick G
 
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What happens when it's 3/4 tenon with a sleeved ebony. also we don't know how Paul does his delrin. So basically what are you coring maple with to me it lighter

I have a mottey with delrin but I'm too lazy to take it apart right now
 
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