Regarding CNC Software Tattletales

[WheatCues]

Why are you getting repeat customers ????

Can you not make them happy the first time, so they keep coming back hoping you get it right ?????

Just curious !!!!!!




It's because he is getting it right, If not then, I seriously doubt anyone would spend more money with him.

Well than if the cue played exactly the way they wanted it to and they are happy then why the neccessity of buying more ????

Isn't one sufficient ??? to my understanding players utilize the same playing cue repeatedly... this creates consistancy !!!

If you are constantly changing cues you will never know what feels right or wrong or give your game the chance to solidify itself....

By the way.. that was a shot at "Dick" becasue he's talking down to me for showing "Pirate" symptoms....


- Eddie Wheat

 

[JoeyInCali]

I'm so happy that you are picking up customers but I doubt seriously if they are mine as I've been having repeat customers for years now and it's been years since I haven't had
orders for custom cues.
Eddie, are you confusted about that line?

 

[JoeyInCali]

I am sorry for exploding, becasue this is getting way out of hand !!!

Can we please just drop it !!!


Sincerely, Eddie Wheat
Now, didn't you just say, drop it?

 

[WheatCues]

Right. Every ones entitled to their own opinions - except Eddie - he's entitled to his PROFESIONAL opinion.

Instead of waisting your time on this forum sharing your vast professional opinions you need to be working on all of those extra cue orders you are taking from everyone else on this forum as a result of your professional behavior and MAGICAL techniques. I want to help you all I can now that you have gone National with your cue making. The next time some one comes into my shop to order a custom cue and they ask for it to be built with paste and super glue I'll be sure to give them your number and let them know "here is your man".

Dick

Actually I use a gluestick, construction paper and glitter......

Does that "SPARKLE" with you !

Oh by the way... if super glue gel made that big a diffence in sound or hit when utilizing it on ferrules and sucks that bad... then why the hell are YOU using it on the tips then ????

I don't say nor claim I'm the best... just different.... and between you and a few others, it looks like the room at the top is overcrowded.... so I'm making a different room at the top for those who AREN"T afraid of getting away from conventional cuemaking methods and ARE willling to try something new and are NOT afraid to talk about it or introduce it to the public....

This is the 21st century Dick, that means it's time for change !!!

I'm not trying to be a leader with new concepts or approaches but I'll damn sure take the job if it comes down to that becasue "I AIN'T SKEEERD !!!"



Sincerely, Eddie Wheat

 

[WheatCues]

I am sorry for exploding, becasue this is getting way out of hand !!!

Can we please just drop it !!!


Sincerely, Eddie Wheat
Now, didn't you just say, drop it?

Just tying up some loose ends !!!!





HUGS AND KISSES, Eddie Wheat

 

[brianna187]

As far as poeple buying more cues once someone gets use to a cuemaker they enjoy going back and getting another cue if they didnt we would all be out of business theres buying selling trading i have had cues i said i would never sell i did. so at that time there is more of a market for new cues. Dick has a super following in his area and i sure all over he has been at it for sometime. My point being poeple will be back to buy again if there happy and well taken care of.

 

[WheatCues]

As far as poeple buying more cues once someone gets use to a cuemaker they enjoy going back and getting another cue if they didnt we would all be out of business theres buying selling trading i have had cues i said i would never sell i did. so at that time there is more of a market for new cues. Dick has a super following in his area and i sure all over he has been at it for sometime. My point being poeple will be back to buy again if there happy and well taken care of.

And that aspect of it is completely understandable and expected !!!

I guess what I was actually asking was why the neccessity of buying multiple expensive cues from some the same maker over and over... you would think there would come a time that someone would be happy and not press their luck with the completel configuration... or is it because they resale them on the secondary market and that is the primary motivation for buying excessively from one cuemaker ???

I personally would take it as an insult if I seen my cues for sale, because that tells me I dissapointed the customer's expectations and his faith in me to be able to give him exactly what he wanted !!!


- Eddie Wheat

 

[JoeyInCali]

Oh by the way... if super glue gel made that big a diffence in sound or hit when utilizing it on ferrules and sucks that bad... then why the hell are YOU using it on the tips then ????
Because the leather tip will tear before the super glue will. Because leather is actually softer than the super glue. And that leather to face of ferrule adhesion is not contruction, it's just adhesion. I prefer Loctite 405, 454 or quick-setting white Gorilla glue ( after being recommended by Varney here ).
Ferrule to tenon is CONSTRUCTION. It is subject to more stress.

Now, if you are trying to convince Dick to use superglue on his ferrules, forget it.
You can't carry his resume so try not to outsenior him.

 

[WheatCues]

Oh by the way... if super glue gel made that big a diffence in sound or hit when utilizing it on ferrules and sucks that bad... then why the hell are YOU using it on the tips then ????
Because the leather tip will tear before the super glue will. Because leather is actually softer than the super glue. And that leather to face of ferrule adhesion is not contruction, it's just adhesion. I prefer Loctite 405, 454 or quick-setting white Gorilla glue ( after being recommended by Varney here ).
Ferrule to tenon is CONSTRUCTION. It is subject to more stress.

Now, if you are trying to convince Dick to use superglue on his ferrules, forget it.
You can't carry his resume so try not to outsenior him.

Oh absolutely not !!!

I'm not trying to convince anyone to do anything my way... only pointing out that there is always options to getting the end result, and simply suggesting other alternatives !!

I would never expect anyone to change what works for them, and in the same respect they should not ridicule what works well for others !!!


- Eddie Wheat

 

[JoeyInCali]

Oh absolutely not !!!

I'm not trying to convince anyone to do anything my way... only pointing out that there is always options to getting the end result, and simply suggesting other alternatives !!

I would never expect anyone to change what works for them, and in the same respect they should not ridicule what works well for others !!!


- Eddie Wheat

What if someone said he used super glue in the A-joint?
Or he did not have any threads there?
Just a half-inch diameter by 1 inch long plug?
Won't you insist he change b/c that is not solid construction?
How about hammered-on ferrules?
Hammered on joint-pins ( yes someone even claimed he did it )?
Shafts done in 3 passes?

Some things are just wrong, period.
If you don't think super glue on ferrules is not one of them, more power to you.
But, try not to convince Dick. He's an old thickhead Ohioan.

 

[WheatCues]

What if someone said he used super glue in the A-joint?
Or he did not have any threads there?
Just a half-inch diameter by 1 inch long plug?
Won't you insist he change b/c that is not solid construction?
How about hammered-on ferrules?
Hammered on joint-pins ( yes someone even claimed he did it )?
Shafts done in 3 passes?

Some things are just wrong, period.
If you don't think super glue on ferrules is not one of them, more power to you.
But, try not to convince Dick. He's an old thickhead Ohioan.

LOL !!!!


I agree somethings are not feasible, however, I have been utilizing CA gels on ferrules since day 1 and that includes capped and threaded and have never ever had a problem whatsoever !!!!

Mabey I'm just lucky.... and no one including professional player's cues I have worked on ever had a problem with it either !!!! they have full knowlege becasue they watch me do the work and cannot tell a noticeable difference at all !

If you install it correctly, It will play solidly !!!!

I will use epoxy on ferrules when it's requested by the customer !

So for anyone to tell me that I am repairing cues incorectly becasue they can't achieve the same results with CA's effortlessly, then they are in the wrong... not me !!!

I'm not saying my way is better or worse.... just different !!!



- Eddie Wheat

 

[WheatCues]

Oh by the way... if super glue gel made that big a diffence in sound or hit when utilizing it on ferrules and sucks that bad... then why the hell are YOU using it on the tips then ????
Because the leather tip will tear before the super glue will. Because leather is actually softer than the super glue. And that leather to face of ferrule adhesion is not contruction, it's just adhesion. I prefer Loctite 405, 454 or quick-setting white Gorilla glue ( after being recommended by Varney here ).
Ferrule to tenon is CONSTRUCTION. It is subject to more stress.

Now, if you are trying to convince Dick to use superglue on his ferrules, forget it.
You can't carry his resume so try not to outsenior him.

Not to correct you Joey but the tip is constuction as well... how is that any different than the ferrule it's all relevant to the construction ???

Both undergo stress and the tip more so than the ferrule becasue it's softer and the direct energy transfer dissapaites more rapidly with the initial stike, so the enertia effect is directly transferred to the entire raidus of the tip due to its softer properties and by the time the remainder of the energy reaches the ferrule it exerts itself solidly down the ferrule through the shaft which due to the fact the ferrule solidly fitted against the shafts surface it creates a unified fit so the shock value is considerably reduced !

So in short the every component that comprises a pool cue is constructors....

Of course this is just my opinion and yes Dick it's a"professional" one !!!



Sincerely, Eddie Wheat

 

[brianna187]

purchase of muliple cues have cues (certin cues) is like money in the bank
no disrepest to anyone intended so if you buy right and hang on it can be to your advandge and some poeple just like to have many cues and take them out and enjoy looking at them i am one of those that do i know theres many others then theres the guy that has one cue and plays with it so we are talking about differant types thats alli was saying .

 

[JoeyInCali]

Not to correct you Joey but the tip is constuction as well... how is that any different than the ferrule it's all relevant to the construction ???
Ferrules have ID, grooves/threads, you contruct tenons for them.
You construct threads or glue surface/rings for them.
Tip? You scratch it and glue it. Surface to surface adhesion.
What did you construct to install it?
Hell, I make my own ferrules because the stock ones out there no longer make me happy.

 

[JoeyInCali]

purchase of muliple cues have cues (certin cues) is like money in the bank
no disrepest to anyone intended so if you buy right and hang on it can be to your advandge and some poeple just like to have many cues and take them out and enjoy looking at them i am one of those that do i know theres many others then theres the guy that has one cue and plays with it so we are talking about differant types thats alli was saying .

tap tap tap
If you do not have repeat customers, your customers might not be happy with your cues.
The best makers are the ones whose clients are ordering more cues before they even recieve their recent order.

Makers who promise cheap price and quick delivery? I dunno.

 

[DaveK]

....I make my own ferrules because the stock ones out there no longer make me happy.

Are happy-ferrules even legal in California ? What about magic-ferrules ? Ever made one out of a bantam jack ?

Dave

<edit> sorry for the thread-drift, this should be about cnc-software-tattletales not happy-ferrule-tattletales, my bad.

 

[WheatCues]

purchase of muliple cues have cues (certin cues) is like money in the bank
no disrepest to anyone intended so if you buy right and hang on it can be to your advandge and some poeple just like to have many cues and take them out and enjoy looking at them i am one of those that do i know theres many others then theres the guy that has one cue and plays with it so we are talking about differant types thats alli was saying .

So we are talking about investments cues here and not typical everyday playing cues right ???

If so then I follow you completely !!!


Thanks, Eddie Wheat

 

[JoeyInCali]

Are happy-ferrules even legal in California ? What about magic-ferrules ? Ever made one out of a bantam jack ?

Dave

<edit> sorry for the thread-drift, this should be about cnc-software-tattletales not happy-ferrule-tattletales, my bad.

Careful, I make happy brownies.

 

[JoeyInCali]

So we are talking about investments cues here and not typical everyday playing cues right ???

If so then I follow you completely !!!


Thanks, Eddie Wheat

ALL cues are investments.
They don't come free.

 

[WheatCues]

tap tap tap
If you do not have repeat customers, your customers might not be happy with your cues.
The best makers are the ones whose clients are ordering more cues before they even recieve their recent order.

Makers who promise cheap price and quick delivery? I dunno.

Oh I can understand the waiting game.... it creates marketing hype and people always want what they can't easily get... and from a collectors point of view thats realistic becasue it commands a certain price...

However I build tools that players need today, not next year and since I do not build tools for intended resale reasons I cannot or will not ever command collector cue or investment prices !!!

I just want to make sure no one is confusing my intentions here or thinking that I am trying to compete with the prestigious collector cue market !!!


Siincerely, Eddie Wheat "wannabe cuemaker"