Removing A Meucci Smooth Wrap

BLACKHEARTCUES

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I've never had much luck, removing the wrap of Meucci Qs, with a clearcoat over the wrap. The problem is that the clear tends to chip or lift above & below the wrap area. I've tried sharpening the tool. Using a razor blade to start the cut. I've tried to tape off the forearm & sand down to the wrap & then clean up the edge with a sharp lathe tool(this one works the best). Is it me or is the surface poorly prepared, so that the finish will lift, no matter what I do. I'm not fond of giving someone a FREE refinish job. Can you help?...JER
 
BLACKHEARTCUES said:
I've never had much luck, removing the wrap of Meucci Qs, with a clearcoat over the wrap. The problem is that the clear tends to chip or lift above & below the wrap area. I've tried sharpening the tool. Using a razor blade to start the cut. I've tried to tape off the forearm & sand down to the wrap & then clean up the edge with a sharp lathe tool(this one works the best). Is it me or is the surface poorly prepared, so that the finish will lift, no matter what I do. I'm not fond of giving someone a FREE refinish job. Can you help?...JER

I did one quite a while ago. I used a new razor blade (I call them utility knife blades cuz that what they are). I mount one vertical in my tool post, line it up behind the rings (this one had a ring above and below the wrap) and score the finish. GO SLOWLY as to not nick the finish. Use water too... it helped. not knowing finish properties, using tape is sometimes always a risk as it can lift the paint.

It worked great! IMO.

Chris
 
BLACKHEARTCUES said:
I've never had much luck, removing the wrap of Meucci Qs, with a clearcoat over the wrap. The problem is that the clear tends to chip or lift above & below the wrap area. I've tried sharpening the tool. Using a razor blade to start the cut. I've tried to tape off the forearm & sand down to the wrap & then clean up the edge with a sharp lathe tool(this one works the best). Is it me or is the surface poorly prepared, so that the finish will lift, no matter what I do. I'm not fond of giving someone a FREE refinish job. Can you help?...JER

Hello Jer, I have removed and re-wrapped Meucci wraps. Jer I use my Lathe cutting tool and cut from the center to either the forearm or the butt to within 1/8th inch from the end of the under wrap, I then repeat the process in the opposite direction.

Next I clean up the under wrap and prepare it for the new wrap. When completed, I take a flat file with a square edge and spin the cue in the lathe moving the file forward until all material and finish are removed to the edge, I then repeat the process on the other end.

Last I use the same file to face and finish the edges for the new wrap. Normally, I then take a piece of 1000 grit paper that is wet and just slightly dull the edge of the forearm and the butt, I then polish the finish at the edges to blend it in with the rest of the cue, this will prevent the finish from chipping later.

Hope this helps!!!!

Manwon
 
BLACKHEARTCUES said:
I've never had much luck, removing the wrap of Meucci Qs, with a clearcoat over the wrap. The problem is that the clear tends to chip or lift above & below the wrap area. I've tried sharpening the tool. Using a razor blade to start the cut. I've tried to tape off the forearm & sand down to the wrap & then clean up the edge with a sharp lathe tool(this one works the best). Is it me or is the surface poorly prepared, so that the finish will lift, no matter what I do. I'm not fond of giving someone a FREE refinish job. Can you help?...JER

I see those bubbled up P.O S. Meuccie cues in pawn shops all the time. I have always assumed it would be a refinish job to make it right? So, I laugh and leave them alone. should I just be getting a wrap job done on them and reselling them? I am VERY far from a Meucci fan, But they are easy to sell! for some reason? Do you guys charge the same to rewrap a a meucci as a regular cue?
 
jayman said:
I see those bubbled up P.O S. Meuccie cues in pawn shops all the time. I have always assumed it would be a refinish job to make it right? So, I laugh and leave them alone. should I just be getting a wrap job done on them and reselling them? I am VERY far from a Meucci fan, But they are easy to sell! for some reason? Do you guys charge the same to rewrap a a meucci as a regular cue?

I charge $40 to re-wrap any cue unless they want me use Courtland Irish Linen, and then I will charge $125.

Manwon
 
manwon said:
I charge $40 to re-wrap any cue unless they want me use Courtland Irish Linen, and then I will charge $125.

Manwon
Manwon, with all do respect, if you are doing more work and taking additional steps, why don't you charge accordingly? It sounds like you are applying more work, skill and care to insure the customer gets what they want, so why not charge extra? Just curious.

Gene
 
Cuedog said:
Manwon, with all do respect, if you are doing more work and taking additional steps, why don't you charge accordingly? It sounds like you are applying more work, skill and care to insure the customer gets what they want, so why not charge extra? Just curious.

Gene

Good Point Gene, however, it really is not that much extra work. Normally it takes me about 30 minutes start to final press to finish a re-wrap.

To re-wrap a Meucci, may take an additional 10 minutes at the most. I do not believe in price gouging. I do very good work and I feel that what I charge is fare to me and the customer.

By the way, I am never short of work, I do not sell cues, production or Custom conversion on this site or else where on line, my conversion cues sell as fast as I can make them, and my customers must be satisfied with my work because my only advertising is word of mouth.

Have a nice night!!!!!!

manwon
 
I usually don't have any problems removing the wraps. I just unwind them pulling at 45 degree up and away from the forearm.
 
ratcues said:
I usually don't have any problems removing the wraps. I just unwind them pulling at 45 degree up and away from the forearm.

This thread is about the wraps that have the finish sprayed over the linen. So do you just "unwind" them, as you would a normal wrap?...JER
 
BLACKHEARTCUES said:
This thread is about the wraps that have the finish sprayed over the linen. So do you just "unwind" them, as you would a normal wrap?...JER

I do. I start in the middle of the cue and go in both directions. Instead of pulling the twine strait away I pull at an angle to the end of the wrap. The lacquer flakes off as the linen is removed and when you get near to the very end usually a little skin is left where the linen came out from under it. I then remove this with a razor or a flat file with no teeth on one flat side that I ride on the handle and let the teeth on the short side clean up the edge. If the lacquer is chipping badly while removing the old wrap then I'll stop around a 1/2" from the ends, throw the cue in the lathe chucking up right at the end of the wrap and cut the last 1/2" of old wrap off the same way as if I was squaring up the ends of a new wrap groove.

Dick
 
BLACKHEARTCUES said:
This thread is about the wraps that have the finish sprayed over the linen. So do you just "unwind" them, as you would a normal wrap?...JER

Yes, I am talking about the wraps with the finish sprayed over them. I make a small cut into the wrap to get it started. Then I unwind it at a 45 degree up and 45 degrees away from the finished wood/plastic. This is the way I've always done it. There have been very few times over the years that the finish has lifted. Not enough to make me change the way I do it.
 
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