Any advice or tips on removing Irish linen wrap would be greatly appreciated. Ditto for sanding/cleaning the wrap area. I'll be trying to install a cork wrap for the first time.
Removing Linen Wrap
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Cut it in the center and unroll it toward the Butt and then toward the forearm. Be careful where the wrap touches the edge of the Butt and forearm, sometimes the Linen will stick and cause the finish to delaminate.
As far as cleaning the under wrap area, I normally lightly sand the area to remove the old adhesive.
Good Luck with the Cork Wrap.
I've only done 2 wraps so far but I do it the same as Darcy. I just put the cue in the lathe, cut one end, and start pulling, being very careful and slow once I get to the opposite end. Lightly sand to get the glue residue off.
Thanks for the input - I appreciate it. Never too old to learn. I followed Manwon's procedure because I was worried about Manwon's warning about the edges. Well it was a breeze. I was very careful at the last wrap - seems McDermott drills a tiny hole near the edge to insert the linen. Now I'll have to sand lightly and then the big challenge - installing the cork. By the way, there was a big 199 in red written where the linen was installed.
The tiny hole is very common, and probably on both ends.
There should have been a small hole drilled in both ends of the wrap area. These holes were used to secure the ends of the Linen wrap. In the old days and even still today some cue makers or repairman would stick the end piece of linen in the hole and push in a tooth pick and snap it off in the hole. This would secure the linen so that the ends would not come loose. However, I have found that drilling the hole and filling it with Elmer's Glue and just pushing the Linen in also works very well in almost nine years of wrapping cues I have never had one come loose.
Anyway, I am glad my method worked for you and when you finish the cork wrap post some photo's of it. I have never done it either, so maybe when you work the bugs out you could tell me how to do it.
Take Care
I know this is going to sound like a rough treatment of a cue,but it was my own and I wouldn't have done this if my equipment was capable of doing a rewrap like it is now.
I had a rather bad wrap done by someone fairly well respected by a lot of us,at least until it happened to MY cue.
I honestly have no clue what he did as far as prep,I wasn't allowed to stick around and watch,even though I asked and there wasn't anything going on at the time important enough to make me watching impossible.
All I know is that after 3 years of play,whatever he glued it on with must have been the baddest shit ever known,because after spending close to an hour trying to unroll it I found out it just wouldn't unroll cleanly,the linen came off in short pieces,no more than 1 1/4 at a time.
I cut a strand,pull on it and no matter how gentle I tried,it wouldn't go even a full turn without the linen just ripping.
I was doing this on a friend's old-school Deluxe Cuesmith,and I had already spent time getting it set up right,along with a couple snags doing so,and it was getting late time wise,so I took a boxcutter and used a straight edge to make a cut the full length of the wrap.
From there I carefully pulled up enough of an edge to grab it,slid the blade in under it,and got most of it off in short sheet-like sections,almost like a thin cardboard sheet.
There were still sections I couldn't get to come off using this method without risking gouging the wrap bed,so for those I put the belt back on the motor and turned the lathe on on the 3rd speed,and used red 80 grit sanding discs and sanded the rest off after spraying it down with water.
I managed to get it all off and after sanding to 400,I sealed the whole handle with Hot Stuff and let it dry,and sanded it back flat using 220 then back to clean 400,then used a water-thinned Gorilla Wood Glue.
There is NO way I'd have done it this way on a customer's cue,unless this problem was discovered and explained in detail ahead of time,and cleared to proceed,but know I know HOW to deal with it.
I also know now that explaining the fact that this COULD happen to a cue brought to me by a customer at a tournament when taking the current wrap off,that I can help the customer make an informed decision as to what they want done in case this happens.
It also will hopefully help someone here too :wink:. Tommy D.
I had a rather bad wrap done by someone fairly well respected by a lot of us,at least until it happened to MY cue.
I honestly have no clue what he did as far as prep,I wasn't allowed to stick around and watch,even though I asked and there wasn't anything going on at the time important enough to make me watching impossible.
All I know is that after 3 years of play,whatever he glued it on with must have been the baddest shit ever known,because after spending close to an hour trying to unroll it I found out it just wouldn't unroll cleanly,the linen came off in short pieces,no more than 1 1/4 at a time.
I cut a strand,pull on it and no matter how gentle I tried,it wouldn't go even a full turn without the linen just ripping.
I was doing this on a friend's old-school Deluxe Cuesmith,and I had already spent time getting it set up right,along with a couple snags doing so,and it was getting late time wise,so I took a boxcutter and used a straight edge to make a cut the full length of the wrap.
From there I carefully pulled up enough of an edge to grab it,slid the blade in under it,and got most of it off in short sheet-like sections,almost like a thin cardboard sheet.
There were still sections I couldn't get to come off using this method without risking gouging the wrap bed,so for those I put the belt back on the motor and turned the lathe on on the 3rd speed,and used red 80 grit sanding discs and sanded the rest off after spraying it down with water.
I managed to get it all off and after sanding to 400,I sealed the whole handle with Hot Stuff and let it dry,and sanded it back flat using 220 then back to clean 400,then used a water-thinned Gorilla Wood Glue.
There is NO way I'd have done it this way on a customer's cue,unless this problem was discovered and explained in detail ahead of time,and cleared to proceed,but know I know HOW to deal with it.
I also know now that explaining the fact that this COULD happen to a cue brought to me by a customer at a tournament when taking the current wrap off,that I can help the customer make an informed decision as to what they want done in case this happens.
It also will hopefully help someone here too :wink:. Tommy D.
In my experience,
Getting the old wrap off is however works best for you
Putting on the new one is what really matters
I agree with you completely, so long as the under wrap is not damaged in the process.
I had a customer bring a cue into the shop around two years ago to have his cue re-wrapped. The wrap was coming loose and the cue had recently had a wrap put on by another repairman locally. When I started removing the wrap I found a second wrap under the first one. At this point I am thinking what the hell, I had never seen anything like that before. After removing the second wrap I checked the depth of the wrap groove which was forty eight thousands deep, when it should have been twenty five thousands deep. I called the customer and told him the bad news, well to make a long story short, the other repairman had tried to cut the original wrap off by spinning the cue in his home made lathe using wood chisel. Something went wrong and he gouged the handle so bad he decided to take it down to make it close to even, in stead of building the damaged area back up with epoxy of veneer material.
It really made me sick to see this type of damage to a Josswest that cost around $1200 in 1985!!!
That's really terrible.
I think I remember reading a thread where someone had asked about putting two layers of a wrap on, crazy talk!!!
Michael that is how it was fixed, do you remeber talking to me about this awhile back. Since that time if I have another problem like this come through my shop I would not fix it any other way.
I hope all is well Michael, and thanks again for giving me the above information.
Take care.
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