Rent a pro

We had a guy in our area that had a deal going with Allison Fisher along the same lines. He was going to try to get people to pay 100.00 a person to come to his house to see her. Needless to say it never worked out. I feel if you can catch some of the players coming through your area for a tournament you might can make this happen. It never hurts to ask and players are always looking for a way to make easy money.
 
First off, I’m serious, and I’m not trying to offend anyone.

I’ve always wanted to just hang with a pro for a while. Not really to take instruction, not really to play (much), just to watch them and be present. You can always take lessons I suppose, but that really isn’t what I’m looking for. I just want to have a pro over to my house and talk about pool, watch them play, hear a few good stories, drink some beers. Just hang out basically.

Of course, I’d never get a pro out of the blue to do this. I don’t have time to hang out at tournaments (and that is no guarantee of getting that kind of interaction anyway). But maybe you could buy that. I’m sure there is a price at which anyone will come over and hang out with you for a while. I’m thinking that given the state of pool and the payouts at world class tournaments, you might be able to make that happen fairly reasonably.

So what would reasonable be to me?

I’d be willing to drop let’s say $2,000 + all expenses including airfare for a pro to just come over and hang out at my house for the weekend and bang balls on my GCV. Of course, I’m not talking just any pro. Here’s a short list off the top of my head:

Mike Sigel
Efren Reyes
Corey Deuel
John Schmidt
Nick Varner
Johnny Archer
SVB
Earl Strickland

You get the idea.

I was looking at tournament payouts, and I’m guessing that even for these top players, $2,000 amounts to an average haul for a top event. Sure, if they win it, they get more, but we’re talking on average. And add on to that this amount is guaranteed. All you need to do is come over and hang out for the weekend, maybe sign something, eat my food, talk to the kids, tell some stories, etc. Hell, we might even end up liking each other. Guaranteed $2k with no pressure, no hassles?

I’m sure something like this has been done in the past. Perhaps putting someone up in your house during a local tournament, providing some housing for a while, stake horsing? But I’m just talking about a weekend. For me, a story like that would be worth the money.

Is this a crazy idea? What do you think the market for such a thing would be? The pro gets some needed money, and I get to hang out with one of my heroes for a weekend.

Thanks for your thoughts

If you are welling to loose 2k, i am sure they will jump on an arranged match, say raise to 20 each day!! hay you might win!!!!:wink:
 
First off, I’m serious, and I’m not trying to offend anyone.

I’ve always wanted to just hang with a pro for a while. Not really to take instruction, not really to play (much), just to watch them and be present. You can always take lessons I suppose, but that really isn’t what I’m looking for. I just want to have a pro over to my house and talk about pool, watch them play, hear a few good stories, drink some beers. Just hang out basically.

Of course, I’d never get a pro out of the blue to do this. I don’t have time to hang out at tournaments (and that is no guarantee of getting that kind of interaction anyway). But maybe you could buy that. I’m sure there is a price at which anyone will come over and hang out with you for a while. I’m thinking that given the state of pool and the payouts at world class tournaments, you might be able to make that happen fairly reasonably.

So what would reasonable be to me?

I’d be willing to drop let’s say $2,000 + all expenses including airfare for a pro to just come over and hang out at my house for the weekend and bang balls on my GCV. Of course, I’m not talking just any pro. Here’s a short list off the top of my head:

Mike Sigel
Efren Reyes
Corey Deuel
John Schmidt
Nick Varner
Johnny Archer
SVB
Earl Strickland

You get the idea.

I was looking at tournament payouts, and I’m guessing that even for these top players, $2,000 amounts to an average haul for a top event. Sure, if they win it, they get more, but we’re talking on average. And add on to that this amount is guaranteed. All you need to do is come over and hang out for the weekend, maybe sign something, eat my food, talk to the kids, tell some stories, etc. Hell, we might even end up liking each other. Guaranteed $2k with no pressure, no hassles?

I’m sure something like this has been done in the past. Perhaps putting someone up in your house during a local tournament, providing some housing for a while, stake horsing? But I’m just talking about a weekend. For me, a story like that would be worth the money.

Is this a crazy idea? What do you think the market for such a thing would be? The pro gets some needed money, and I get to hang out with one of my heroes for a weekend.

Thanks for your thoughts

Give Stevie Moore a call, that would be my choice and a hell of a lot cheaper than your talking about
 
Yikes

2 k to listen to Mike Sigel talk about himself ? You can get that for free on the net. I would rather drive railroad ties into my eyeballs 2 at a time.
 
Mike Massey would be a pretty awesome one too, he came into one of our pool halls ounce, unannounced hardly anyone there, shot some balls around with us and just nice as can be to everyone, he has quite the history too
 
Just because someone shoots pool doesn't mean they would be fun to hang out with. I think it's weird. Shoot pool with, fine. Hang out with seems desperate.
 
Hard to appreciate the concept if you're not a "hard core" like most of us here. Some pros are really nice people, behind the competitive facade. Others...not so much! :D

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

Just because someone shoots pool doesn't mean they would be fun to hang out with. I think it's weird. Shoot pool with, fine. Hang out with seems desperate.
 
Just because someone shoots pool doesn't mean they would be fun to hang out with. I think it's weird. Shoot pool with, fine. Hang out with seems desperate.

I disagree, maybe from your perspective, but to a pro who knows they have fans im sure desperation would not even cross their mind. I think he should change his wording a little, make it more pool based sounding, but obviously there would be plenty of pool playing involved, everything else he talked about would just naturally come with the situation of having a guest at your house. I will be very jealous if it works out for him!
 
Careful, right now, there are a couple of guys you may have to legally evict to get them OUT of your house.
 
Hi Dan...I agree! Been to Mike's place (best ocean view with a pool table ever!), and your house too! How's your table holding up? Still playing well? Do you, Mitchell and the other guys still get together regularly? I'll be out in S. CA around Xmas...maybe see you and shoot some! :D

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

Nothing unusual about it, my friend Fast Mikie did exactly that. I believe they were in town on that "Legends and Champions Pool Tour" that bfdlad put together. You can see the videos on his blog of him playing around with Johnny Archer and Nick Varner.

http://poolshooter.blogspot.com/2009/04/johnny-archer-runs-120-at-fastmikies.html
 
Mission accomplished

Well folks, mission accomplished and you can scratch that one off the bucket list. I had several PMs after this original post came out of people who were generally supportive and some who wanted to arrange something for me. There was only one guy who had the contacts to legitimately make that happen. We talked about Nick Varner perhaps, and he seemed willing. But I also started checking out people’s websites directly. Mike Sigel has one, it advertised exhibitions, so I sent him an e-mail directly. I had a reply before the day was out saying “sure” and we started talking dates. His schedule is very busy right now with all the irons in the fire around various business objectives he’s trying to accomplish, but there was an open weekend in January so we booked it.

I must admit I went back and forth about Mike and Nick. I knew those two experiences would be very different given their different personality and styles. Mike is known for being very talkative, and in the end, I decided that this is pretty much what I would want, because I wanted to listen. Additionally, if you’re looking to get one of the best who ever played the game, you’d have to give Mike the clear nod with his record.

When I asked Mike if he was interested, the proposal was pretty much like I wrote it up on this forum. I was very clear about what I was looking for. I didn’t say, hey let’s play some matches or do an exhibition and then we’ll hang out a while afterwards. It was basically, I’m looking to hang out with one of the greatest players of the game ever, and by the way, I’d like to play some games and give back to the local hall and straight pool league by having you come down and show the guys some things.

He said, I understand, fine, didn’t blink. After talking to him more, turns out this kinda thing is really not that odd at all. It doesn’t happen as much as it used to when the sport was more popular and the money looser. But hardly rare.

I’m not going to go into the details of the weekend, but I’ll just say my head is still spinning with all the stories, advice, games and just watching the guy play. If you’re wondering if Mike can still play at over 60, I can assure you, he still hits him like the world champion he is. I have a Gold Crown V at the house and he played mostly straight pool. I had two buddies come over to my house to meet Mike. After shooting around for about 20 minutes, he ran 56, 84, and then 126. At the pool hall he had a 54 and a 71, all the while chatting and telling stories in well-known Sigel style (that is, he wasn’t exactly trying terribly hard).

And for those Sigel haters who are going to start talking trash about Mike (and who I will admit made me a little nervous up front), I’ll also say that he was a gracious and fun guest, and I would do it all over again, no hesitations (although once is about all the wife is going to tolerate for this little whim).

I said I’m not going into the details, but here is a taste for those of you who asked.

Watched Mike at work around the table. An absolute joy.

Played some straight pool, nine ball and eight ball using GPPA rules. He started me at a 2 but thought I should have been a 1.

Watched some DCC Big Foot matches on the stream. That was a hoot having him watch all the players and knowing each one personally (as well as several sitting in the background). While Corey Duel was warming up for his match with Niels, Mike shot him a text “I’m watching you” and when Niels started warming up the texts started coming back. Priceless.

Got a close hand look at his GORGEOUS cue that he designed and made. Sure it’s CNC, but it really is a spectacular cue with the silver, diamonds, ivory and abalone.

Talked about hustling, tournaments, commentating, tables, cue making, state of pool, players, games, money, tight pockets, cloth, patterns, leagues, golf, poker, fishing, his family, life, etc., etc., etc.

Talked about the players. Crane, Balsis, Martin, West, Mosconi, Walderone, McCready, Matthews, Hopkins, Rempe, Reyes, Bustamante, Dominguez, SVB, Hall, Archer, Strickland, Varner, etc., etc.

And yes, we talked about Kevin, IPT and all that too. He was very open and there seemed no subject off limits.

He signed my picture of him and Grady Matthews in Dayton, Ohio, I took him to the airport, and the rest is history.

I’m surprised, I guess, that the pros don’t try to market things like this more aggressively. I suppose the market is limited, and there is the risk factor of not knowing who you might get hooked up with. But for the die-hard pool fan, this was the most rewarding, fascinating and unforgettable experience of my pool life.

Regards
 
Well folks, mission accomplished and you can scratch that one off the bucket list. I had several PMs after this original post came out of people who were generally supportive and some who wanted to arrange something for me. There was only one guy who had the contacts to legitimately make that happen. We talked about Nick Varner perhaps, and he seemed willing. But I also started checking out people’s websites directly. Mike Sigel has one, it advertised exhibitions, so I sent him an e-mail directly. I had a reply before the day was out saying “sure” and we started talking dates. His schedule is very busy right now with all the irons in the fire around various business objectives he’s trying to accomplish, but there was an open weekend in January so we booked it.

I must admit I went back and forth about Mike and Nick. I knew those two experiences would be very different given their different personality and styles. Mike is known for being very talkative, and in the end, I decided that this is pretty much what I would want, because I wanted to listen. Additionally, if you’re looking to get one of the best who ever played the game, you’d have to give Mike the clear nod with his record.

When I asked Mike if he was interested, the proposal was pretty much like I wrote it up on this forum. I was very clear about what I was looking for. I didn’t say, hey let’s play some matches or do an exhibition and then we’ll hang out a while afterwards. It was basically, I’m looking to hang out with one of the greatest players of the game ever, and by the way, I’d like to play some games and give back to the local hall and straight pool league by having you come down and show the guys some things.

He said, I understand, fine, didn’t blink. After talking to him more, turns out this kinda thing is really not that odd at all. It doesn’t happen as much as it used to when the sport was more popular and the money looser. But hardly rare.

I’m not going to go into the details of the weekend, but I’ll just say my head is still spinning with all the stories, advice, games and just watching the guy play. If you’re wondering if Mike can still play at over 60, I can assure you, he still hits him like the world champion he is. I have a Gold Crown V at the house and he played mostly straight pool. I had two buddies come over to my house to meet Mike. After shooting around for about 20 minutes, he ran 56, 84, and then 126. At the pool hall he had a 54 and a 71, all the while chatting and telling stories in well-known Sigel style (that is, he wasn’t exactly trying terribly hard).

And for those Sigel haters who are going to start talking trash about Mike (and who I will admit made me a little nervous up front), I’ll also say that he was a gracious and fun guest, and I would do it all over again, no hesitations (although once is about all the wife is going to tolerate for this little whim).

I said I’m not going into the details, but here is a taste for those of you who asked.

Watched Mike at work around the table. An absolute joy.

Played some straight pool, nine ball and eight ball using GPPA rules. He started me at a 2 but thought I should have been a 1.

Watched some DCC Big Foot matches on the stream. That was a hoot having him watch all the players and knowing each one personally (as well as several sitting in the background). While Corey Duel was warming up for his match with Niels, Mike shot him a text “I’m watching you” and when Niels started warming up the texts started coming back. Priceless.

Got a close hand look at his GORGEOUS cue that he designed and made. Sure it’s CNC, but it really is a spectacular cue with the silver, diamonds, ivory and abalone.

Talked about hustling, tournaments, commentating, tables, cue making, state of pool, players, games, money, tight pockets, cloth, patterns, leagues, golf, poker, fishing, his family, life, etc., etc., etc.

Talked about the players. Crane, Balsis, Martin, West, Mosconi, Walderone, McCready, Matthews, Hopkins, Rempe, Reyes, Bustamante, Dominguez, SVB, Hall, Archer, Strickland, Varner, etc., etc.

And yes, we talked about Kevin, IPT and all that too. He was very open and there seemed no subject off limits.

He signed my picture of him and Grady Matthews in Dayton, Ohio, I took him to the airport, and the rest is history.

I’m surprised, I guess, that the pros don’t try to market things like this more aggressively. I suppose the market is limited, and there is the risk factor of not knowing who you might get hooked up with. But for the die-hard pool fan, this was the most rewarding, fascinating and unforgettable experience of my pool life.

Regards

:thumbup: Awesome write up.... You, your friends and your family will be talking about this for the rest of your lives. Glad to hear it went well. Thanks for sharing from thought through completion..
 
Sigel

Mike takes alot of flak for being cocky but he was down in Austin promoting the new league that he sponsers and I thought he was pretty engaging. There werent many people there initially so he told some great old stories and hit a few shots. I have heard the stories too but I think alot of the older guys honed their games in a different time. Ego and attitude were part of their game and Mike had plenty of all of the above.
 

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