Replacing Ivory Ferrules

lfigueroa

lfigueroa

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I am curious as to what's involved with replacing ivory ferrules. Specifically, the last time I had three Gina shafts retipped I failed to ask for pads. My bad, now I get to buy three new ferrules.

So I know these are capped and threaded ivory ferrules -- is this something a cue mechanic at a tournament setup, like the DCC, can handle properly. I mean, I know they all say they can, but I'm wondering if this is something better handled in a full shop. After all, they are Gina shafts and it would be nice to get some nice pure white ivory ferrules properly installed, tapered and tipped (with pads :-) and without huge honking glue lines between the ferrule and shaft.

What say you?

Lou Figueroa
 
My 0.02$ you get what you pay for. Ask to see some of the repair guys work before you give them a job like that.
 
lfigueroa said:
I am curious as to what's involved with replacing ivory ferrules. Specifically, the last time I had three Gina shafts retipped I failed to ask for pads. My bad, now I get to buy three new ferrules.

So I know these are capped and threaded ivory ferrules -- is this something a cue mechanic at a tournament setup, like the DCC, can handle properly. I mean, I know they all say they can, but I'm wondering if this is something better handled in a full shop. After all, they are Gina shafts and it would be nice to get some nice pure white ivory ferrules properly installed, tapered and tipped (with pads :-) and without huge honking glue lines between the ferrule and shaft.

What say you?

Lou Figueroa
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Why are you going to replace the ferrules? Just have someone cut off the tips & install new tips WITH pads under the tips...JER
 
BLACKHEARTCUES said:
Why are you going to replace the ferrules? Just have someone cut off the tips & install new tips WITH pads under the tips...JER
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Maybe he is suggesting they have all cracked now?
 
Hey Lou, IF it is crucial that the ferrules need to be replaced, why not send all 3 shafts to Ernie at Ginacue. Since its for a valued customer of his cue, I don't think he'd be disgruntled about replacing the ivory ferrules, pads and tips.

Martin


lfigueroa said:
I am curious as to what's involved with replacing ivory ferrules. Specifically, the last time I had three Gina shafts retipped I failed to ask for pads. My bad, now I get to buy three new ferrules.

So I know these are capped and threaded ivory ferrules -- is this something a cue mechanic at a tournament setup, like the DCC, can handle properly. I mean, I know they all say they can, but I'm wondering if this is something better handled in a full shop. After all, they are Gina shafts and it would be nice to get some nice pure white ivory ferrules properly installed, tapered and tipped (with pads :-) and without huge honking glue lines between the ferrule and shaft.

What say you?

Lou Figueroa
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lfigueroa said:
I am curious as to what's involved with replacing ivory ferrules. Specifically, the last time I had three Gina shafts retipped I failed to ask for pads. My bad, now I get to buy three new ferrules.
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What happened? Did the person installing them ruin the ferrules?
 
RocketQ said:
My 0.02$ you get what you pay for. Ask to see some of the repair guys work before you give them a job like that.
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I would do that as a matter of course.

Lou Figueroa
 
BLACKHEARTCUES said:
Why are you going to replace the ferrules? Just have someone cut off the tips & install new tips WITH pads under the tips...JER
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Because they are all cracked now.

Lou Figueroa
 
BarenbruggeCues said:
Have you contacted Ernie yet?

Why not let him work on his shafts?
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Because Ernie is backed up with Xmas orders now and then there is the whole FedEx thing which is not cheap. Since I will be at the DCC, I asked what I asked.

Lou Figueroa
 
Sheldon said:
What happened? Did the person installing them ruin the ferrules?
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He asked if I wanted pads -- which I always get -- and before I answered, he said he thought I didn't really need them. I agreed and now I have three cracked ferrules :-)

By the by, no one has really answered my original questions yet...

Lou Figueroa
 
cueman said:
Lomax and Blackburn should have no problem replacing the ferrules at DCC.
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I tried chatting up Blackburn at the Qlympics about this repair and he pretty much blew me off -- seemed he was more interested in getting back to drinking beer and watching a football game than talking to a potential customer. He will never touch one of my cues :-)

Lou Figueroa
 
I am curious as to what's involved with replacing ivory ferrules.
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The ferrules would be heated up to break down the glue and unscrewed. Then the threads can be cleaned up, and new ferrules affixed. It would be best to find someone with a metal lathe, since they tend to be a bit more precise. There will be less chance of the new ferrules being sanded to match a shaft that was not spinning perfectly true when the ferrule was turned to size. As for glue lines, I think any competent repair person should be able to avoid these...
 
lfigueroa said:
Because Ernie is backed up with Xmas orders now and then there is the whole FedEx thing which is not cheap. Since I will be at the DCC, I asked what I asked.

Lou Figueroa
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Had this been disclosed in the beginning I would not have offered my opinion.

But going back to your original #1 post.....the only question I see is..
"What say you?".............so that's what I said.

You will have to do your research with each tech to find out how and why they do their installs the way they do in order to find one that will satisfy your needs. ie......absolutely no glue line.


<~~~installs pads on every shaft that goes out regardless of ferrule material unless the customer absolutely insists on not having one.
 
lfigueroa said:
I am curious as to what's involved with replacing ivory ferrules. Specifically, the last time I had three Gina shafts retipped I failed to ask for pads. My bad, now I get to buy three new ferrules.

So I know these are capped and threaded ivory ferrules -- is this something a cue mechanic at a tournament setup, like the DCC, can handle properly. I mean, I know they all say they can, but I'm wondering if this is something better handled in a full shop. After all, they are Gina shafts and it would be nice to get some nice pure white ivory ferrules properly installed, tapered and tipped (with pads :-) and without huge honking glue lines between the ferrule and shaft.

What say you?

Lou Figueroa
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Do you use this cue to break with? Pads or no pads , I can't imagine all 3 capped ferrules cracking, Ivory or not...JER
 
BLACKHEARTCUES said:
Do you use this cue to break with? Pads or no pads , I can't imagine all 3 capped ferrules cracking, Ivory or not...JER
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No, I don't use them to break with -- not since a few years ago when I did that for a while and torqued open the seam of a very nice leather wrap. Ca-ching :-)

And just for the record: two are cracked, one has developed a bad tap, so just to get everything right with the world all at once, I want to replace all three.

Lou Figueroa
 
Lou,
It is my understanding that Ernie doesn't use a standard thread on his ferrules. I think you may want to send them to Ernie and endure the wait.

JV
 
classiccues said:
Lou,
It is my understanding that Ernie doesn't use a standard thread on his ferrules. I think you may want to send them to Ernie and endure the wait.

JV
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OK, thanks for the heads up, Joe.

Just curious though: has anyone here actually worked on a Gina shaft and able to confirm or deny this?

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
OK, thanks for the heads up, Joe.

Just curious though: has anyone here actually worked on a Gina shaft and able to confirm or deny this?

Lou Figueroa
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If the ferrules have already been replaced I doubt that the original threads are as made.

Good Cuemaking,
 
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