Restore A. E. Schmidt Cue Help

HawaiianEye

HawaiianEye

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Aloha all,

I'm in the mood to get this old cue of mine back into action, but I would like to have it redone first. Looking for someone to do the work.

You can see the cue at this link:

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=273273&highlight=hawaiianeye

My first instinct is to try to keep it original, but I'm open to changing the butt sleeve up a bit...I'm not sure I want all that plastic down there anymore. Maybe a short sleeve of the same type of wood as the butt with only a single red ring at the bottom, before the butt cap.

I am open to changing the wrap from linen to leather as well.

One of the red rings at the bottom has a vertical hairline crack, so I'm not sure if it can be salvaged or if matchable pearlescent rod is available.

Other than cosmetics, I would like the butt tapered down to modern standards and possibly changing out the ferrules.

Can somebody please give me a ballpark figure on what it would cost to make this happen?

I would appreciate any assistance or knowledge that anyone may provide.
 
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HawaiianEye said:
Aloha all,

I'm in the mood to get this old cue of mine back into action, but I would like to have it redone first. Looking for someone to do the work.

You can see the cue at this link:

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=273273&highlight=hawaiianeye

My first instinct is to try to keep it original, but I'm open to changing the butt sleeve up a bit...I'm not sure I want all that plastic down there anymore. Maybe a short sleeve of the same type of wood as the butt with only a single red ring at the bottom, before the butt cap.

I am open to changing the wrap from linen to leather as well.

One of the red rings at the bottom has a vertical hairline crack, so I'm not sure if it can be salvaged or if matchable phonelic rod is available.

Other than cosmetics, I would like the butt tapered down to modern standards and possibly changing out the ferrules.

Can somebody please give me a ballpark figure on what it would cost to make this happen?

I would appreciate any assistance or knowledge that anyone may provide.
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Call Steve Klapp at 309.351.1944 - he'll refinish it with really phenomenal automotive clear coat and a leather wrap for $150. Replacing the butt sleeve will be a bit more. I like the marble rings on your cue. He matches wood up very well!
 
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HawaiianEye said:
Aloha all,

I'm in the mood to get this old cue of mine back into action, but I would like to have it redone first. Looking for someone to do the work.

You can see the cue at this link:

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=273273&highlight=hawaiianeye

My first instinct is to try to keep it original, but I'm open to changing the butt sleeve up a bit...I'm not sure I want all that plastic down there anymore. Maybe a short sleeve of the same type of wood as the butt with only a single red ring at the bottom, before the butt cap.

I am open to changing the wrap from linen to leather as well.

One of the red rings at the bottom has a vertical hairline crack, so I'm not sure if it can be salvaged or if matchable pearlescent rod is available.

Other than cosmetics, I would like the butt tapered down to modern standards and possibly changing out the ferrules.

Can somebody please give me a ballpark figure on what it would cost to make this happen?

I would appreciate any assistance or knowledge that anyone may provide.
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By the time your finished, you will have done 2 things , 1) made a new style out of the original cue, and will pay a butt load for it and lose any classic value
2) lost the style of the original cue.
Best bet is to keep that one original and have a second cue built along the design you have outlined. Once you start to change a cue, there will be things you will lose due to the changes, especially a cue that has so many influences that this one shows.
Don't know if I'm getting my point across, but put simply, don't change what you like as a classic, to accomodate what you currently want. Commission a new cue to do that and you will still own a classic without any changes...and no regrets..best of both worlds....:wink:
Just My opinion,
Dave
 
Dave38 said:
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By the time your finished, you will have done 2 things , 1) made a new style out of the original cue, and will pay a butt load for it and lose any classic value
2) lost the style of the original cue.
Best bet is to keep that one original and have a second cue built along the design you have outlined. Once you start to change a cue, there will be things you will lose due to the changes, especially a cue that has so many influences that this one shows.
Don't know if I'm getting my point across, but put simply, don't change what you like as a classic, to accomodate what you currently want. Commission a new cue to do that and you will still own a classic without any changes...and no regrets..best of both worlds....:wink:
Just My opinion,
Dave
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I have to agree with Dave. If you want a new style cue just buy one. It appears that the cue was made for A E Schmidt from the same Blank that Brunswick used for their Classic Hoppe Professional. If you rework it you will loose all of the collector value that it may have. I would do some research and see if you can find out who actually made the cue... Could be worth a few bucks as is. That's just my opinion....:)
 
A E Schmidt

I vote for not messing with mother nature. Patina can not be replaced. Old friends should be cherished in their golden years.
 
The only thing I would consider doing to the cue is changing the pearl piece that is cracked, if you want it to hold any collectors value. Now if you could care a less about collector value and you want this as your main player then do what ever you want with it. But be prepared to spend a few hundred dollars on a cue that will not be worth as much as you put into it to re-taper, refinish, rewrap and change ferrules and tips when finished.
It is not a high dollar collectable cue even if it was in all original mint condition, so with that consideration you might want to have it reworked if you really want to play with it.
 
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HawaiianEye said:
Aloha all,

I'm in the mood to get this old cue of mine back into action, but I would like to have it redone first. Looking for someone to do the work.

You can see the cue at this link:

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=273273&highlight=hawaiianeye

My first instinct is to try to keep it original, but I'm open to changing the butt sleeve up a bit...I'm not sure I want all that plastic down there anymore. Maybe a short sleeve of the same type of wood as the butt with only a single red ring at the bottom, before the butt cap.

I am open to changing the wrap from linen to leather as well.

One of the red rings at the bottom has a vertical hairline crack, so I'm not sure if it can be salvaged or if matchable pearlescent rod is available.

Other than cosmetics, I would like the butt tapered down to modern standards and possibly changing out the ferrules.

Can somebody please give me a ballpark figure on what it would cost to make this happen?

I would appreciate any assistance or knowledge that anyone may provide.
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After looking at the catalog and pics again, it is most certainly a re-worked Hoppe -
the joint and shaft collars very likely came from Viking.
They sold parts to cuemakers back in those days, the metal shaft collars
were a bit of a viking trademark.

The closeup of the wrap tells the story. Nipped in like EVERY Hoppe ever.
Looks like they peeled the leather wrap off and put on linen thread and
some Paradisey plastic - as did many a cuemaker in the 60s.

I gotta go along with the others, you can pick up a rough Hoppe Pro on
fleabay for a reasonable fistfull of $s. Since you want it re-worked, you
could even start with one in poor(cosmetic) condition.

Dale
 
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