Reverse Swipe - Squirt / Throw Related

[LowEnglish]

I use parallel english, and I mainly use it for long distance shots. It works better than swiping my cue. Almost on a daily basis people compliment me on how accurately I use sidespin for long distance shots. I tell them it's the cue, because I can't do it as well with different cues.

 

[Flex]

I use parallel english, and I mainly use it for long distance shots. It works better than swiping my cue. Almost on a daily basis people compliment me on how accurately I use sidespin for long distance shots. I tell them it's the cue, because I can't do it as well with different cues.

You're fortunate to have a cue with characteristics that matches up well with your stroke and aiming techniques along with a certain speed control and swerve and table conditions and on and on. Be happy it works for you in those circumstances. I bet you could get another cue to work for you on those shots, you'd just have to really get used to the way it plays.

I think BHE makes it a whole lot simpler.

Flex

 

[Colin Colenso]

Parallel to what would be a centerball aim, no compensation. Understand that I don't endorse this method, nor am I saying this method works. But, many people swear that this is what they do.

I'm not sure at what point the definition on this board got mixed up. Maybe in your snooker background, you use the term Parallel English as you've described it. But, I thought that snooker players in general didn't teach squirt/deflection (maybe until recently). Is that incorrect?

Fred <~~~ doesn't swear by it.

Hi Fred,
As I said above, I did find that parallel english can work for some shots.

It is not easy to align the cue perfectly parallel though, and it's practical appication would be a small range of shots. So I think there is some subconscious adjustment going on so people can extend the usability of the shot, and this may be similar to what snooker players do and think they are using parallel english, when actually they are just aligning by memorization.

Most shots pro snooker players use extreme english on are usually quite close b/w CB and OB. So on these shots, the cue is pretty close to parallel. This may explain some of the confusion.

Colin

 

[Gabber]

knowing a cue

I'm not sure at what point the definition on this board got mixed up. Maybe in your snooker background, you use the term Parallel English as you've described it. But, I thought that snooker players in general didn't teach squirt/deflection (maybe until recently). Is that incorrect?

I guess this is my own definition of PE cos I've only ever read 3 books on snooker and there was never any scientific info about squirt. Its always been seen as something a player has to work out for himself. ie, you have to 'learn' to play with your cue. I guess because of this, its no surprise that many top snooker pro's play there entire career with one cue. They can predict quite accurately how much the QB will squirt for any given offset.
I never new a cue had a 'pivot' point till I got on the web and I,m sure many snooker coaches who teach at the moment have never heard of one. . [ The most informative book I ever read was the Penguin Book of Snooker!]

Agreed, unless you use some other compensation like blending the speed and angle for swerve and throw or use a low squirt shaft. For the "feel only" players, they must do something like this (blend speed and elevation) or else, as you say, they would miss. After hitting millions of shots, this is how they "feel it."

I think you are right. Its a blend.
If you have a long shot [ 10 ft away and a 1/2 ball cut], that you need to play with IE - you can aim at 1/2 ball, the QB will squirt and the swerve will bring it back on line. Speed control is essential over distance so unless you are playing firm, its always missable. You can only be confident when the balls are close together or hitting firm.


Last month a snooker tournament was shown on the BBC. In the interval, Steve Davis was on a snooker table answering questions from the public.
" How do you aim when playing with side" was asked and Steve set up a straight shot into the middle pocket, playing with a lot of E.
Guess what, when he made the shot, his cue was definately at an angle!

Gabber

 

[Boro Nut]

Last month a snooker tournament was shown on the BBC. In the interval, Steve Davis was on a snooker table answering questions from the public.
" How do you aim when playing with side" was asked and Steve set up a straight shot into the middle pocket, playing with a lot of E.
Guess what, when he made the shot, his cue was definately at an angle!

Gabber

Of course it was. I can say this without fear of contradiction. It has to be. The only difference is how you arrive at the correct angle.

From personal experience, snooker players do it by aiming to miss the pocket by the corresponding amount needed. The results are the same obviously.

Boro Nut