Review of On Q Cases

JLITALIEN

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Hello fellow AZ’ers I wanted to take some time to review the craftsmanship of a true professional, Garth Blair. For those of you who do not know who Garth is please remove all thoughts of Wayne’s World from your mind. Garth is the owner, operator and one man show of “On Q” cases (onqcases.com). Garth provides a wide variety of cues cases to include custom inlay cases to match your cue.

I first met Garth in Phoenix almost two years ago. I contacted Garth about a possible case repair. Keep in mind that Garth does not solely specialize in case repair none the less he agreed to meet me at Six Shooters, a place that I would frequent at that time. This was completely out of his way, but Garth insisted that we meet at a location with in my convenience. This was a little out of the ordinary for me; after all I was requesting his assistance. I completely expected to drive to a location that was convenient for him and not the other way around. But that should begin to show you the type of person that Garth is and the level of customer service that he provides.

Garth and I discussed the case and the possible repair. I was very impressed with the professionalism and knowledge that Garth displayed. He was very easy to speak with and provided a new prospective to my situation. We decided that it was in my best interest to leave the case as is. At no time during our conversation did Garth try to plug one of his own cases. It was that encounter that convinced me that I wanted to do business with Garth.

A few months later I contacted Garth about making a 2x4 case for me. I am not a big fan of the 2x4 cases (I prefer fellini/centennial style 1x2’s), mostly because of the large pockets that you find on them. So I contracted Garth to make a custom 2x4 with out pockets; just a handle and a towel loop.

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About the case: The leather is a black pressed ostrich pattern, I have had the case for about three months and it still has a strong smell of new leather. As a matter of fact the closet that I keep my cue in now also maintains this wonderful scent. The case is configured in a 2x4, buts on the outside and shafts in the center. The tubes that enclose the cues are rigid, but lined with a soft black material. This provides a great deal of protection for your cues. I have also found that this material fortunately does not retain chalk (very easy to clean).

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The lid to the case is lined with a sheep skin material that not only looks nice, but keeps the cues firmly in place allowing for only slight movement.

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The leather is bound by silver rivets on the back and silver nails on the lid and bottom; along with silver furniture nails to protect the bottom of the case.

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The hardware used on the case is also silver. You can see that the handle is attached with robust silver squares. The latch for the lid is an attractive brushed silver Italian latch.

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I was very pleased with my entire experience concerning On Q Cases. Garths workmanship and customer service are second to none! If you are thinking of purchasing a new case, give Garth a call; you will not be disappointed!

Thanks Garth for a great case!

-Jimmy
 
That's a very nice case. I have often wondered how On Q Cases are doing as they are not very high profile. It's good to see that Garth is still in business and doing very nice work.
 
I admit having no knowledge about case construction but I've had the gut feeling that nails in the lid and/or bottom are a poor way to adhere one substance to another and would be prone to coming loose and fallilng out. Any comments?
 
I am not sure if there is any additional adhesive that is underneath the layer that is nailed or what the nails go into. I am sure that there's someone out there that can answer that.

What I do know is that I have seen this type of construction in other custom cases and I have no doubt that it will hold.
 
JimS said:
I admit having no knowledge about case construction but I've had the gut feeling that nails in the lid and/or bottom are a poor way to adhere one substance to another and would be prone to coming loose and fallilng out. Any comments?

It depends on the nails and the way it is put together. If the nails are barbed then they will "bite" the wood on the way in and be difficult to dislodge. Most casemakers who use this technique also glue the pieces together so there is really no pressure exerted on the nails.

With Instroke we used the wrong nails at the beginning and that caused issues. We finally had nails specially made just for our purposes that had good heavy barbs on them. Additionally we put a spot of glue in the holes to go one extra step to make sure they stay in place.

I have seen a couple On Q cases and while I would change a few things about them (my curse), I did think that they were well constructed and felt as if they would hold up well and last a log time. Whenever I look at a case the first thing I do is lightly stress test all the stress points. :-)

Funny story: Once when we were designing the Predator case I went to Jacksonville and I was presented with a copy of the case I designed and asked point blank why they should continue to buy from me as opposed to the competitor, especially since the competitor was half the price. I looked at the case for a moment and I asked them if I could tear it up. They looked at me kinda funny for a second, not totally sure where I was going with that and said sure.

So I pulled on the handle with medium force and it ripped right off the case. Then I proceeded to show them several other points on the case that were "unfit" for consumption so to speak. Then I invited them to do the same with our sample and the handle held even though they strained hard to tear it.

I got the business. :-) The competitor got the shaft, and it wasn't a Z-shaft either.
 
JimS said:
I admit having no knowledge about case construction but I've had the gut feeling that nails in the lid and/or bottom are a poor way to adhere one substance to another and would be prone to coming loose and fallilng out. Any comments?

I recieved my OnQ case 2 weeks ago. The bottom has rubber that cushions the cues. I think there is also a piece of wood on the top and bottom that the nails go into. If you really want to know for sure talk to Garth.

The case is top quality and everything is even and symetrical. I am sure that he is selling them for a lot less than he could get for them. I was really impressed and more than satisfied. The cases are a work of art and it is too bad that they will be taken into a smoky bar or ph. As stated by the op the case does have a strong new leather smell.
 
Thanks John. I hadn't thought about barbed nails. Screws seemed the better answer but it seems to me that barbed nails would probably hold about the same as screws. I like the look of the case.
 
John Barton said:
It depends on the nails and the way it is put together. If the nails are barbed then they will "bite" the wood on the way in and be difficult to dislodge. Most casemakers who use this technique also glue the pieces together so there is really no pressure exerted on the nails.

With Instroke we used the wrong nails at the beginning and that caused issues. We finally had nails specially made just for our purposes that had good heavy barbs on them. Additionally we put a spot of glue in the holes to go one extra step to make sure they stay in place.

I have seen a couple On Q cases and while I would change a few things about them (my curse), I did think that they were well constructed and felt as if they would hold up well and last a log time. Whenever I look at a case the first thing I do is lightly stress test all the stress points. :-)

Funny story: Once when we were designing the Predator case I went to Jacksonville and I was presented with a copy of the case I designed and asked point blank why they should continue to buy from me as opposed to the competitor, especially since the competitor was half the price. I looked at the case for a moment and I asked them if I could tear it up. They looked at me kinda funny for a second, not totally sure where I was going with that and said sure.

So I pulled on the handle with medium force and it ripped right off the case. Then I proceeded to show them several other points on the case that were "unfit" for consumption so to speak. Then I invited them to do the same with our sample and the handle held even though they strained hard to tear it.

I got the business. :-) The competitor got the shaft, and it wasn't a Z-shaft either.

That's quite a story. It definately shows that you have absolute confidence in your product. That combined with the shock factor of ripping the handle off of another case would get anyones attention. Of course maybe the decided to stick with your cases because they were too scared to go with another company after veiwing that display of brute strength:D !

By the way, if you don't mind sharing what would you change with the On Q Cases?

-Jimmy
 
John Barton said:
That's a very nice case. I have often wondered how On Q Cases are doing as they are not very high profile. It's good to see that Garth is still in business and doing very nice work.
I see more cases than most 20 people and i can assure you they are the best! it is what i have for a personal case , buy his cases with confidense and know that they protect your investment (cue) well
 
OnQ Cases

Big thumbs up to Garth. I've had one for about a year now, and have had no problems. Very easy to deal with, good price, and was my "style".
 
JLITALIEN said:
That's quite a story. It definately shows that you have absolute confidence in your product. That combined with the shock factor of ripping the handle off of another case would get anyones attention. Of course maybe the decided to stick with your cases because they were too scared to go with another company after veiwing that display of brute strength:D !

By the way, if you don't mind sharing what would you change with the On Q Cases?

-Jimmy

It looks as though Garth has changed a few things already to be about what I would have done. The ones I saw were too big and heavy, I mean that they were using tubes that were too big for the task. The case wasn't efficient enough for me. Don't get me wrong, I see a lot of setups that I can't stand and other people love. Whittens for example have the worst pocket design for getting into them. Well no, actually Justis has the worst but Whitten comes next. In MY OPINON. People who have those cases either don't mind the setup or they don't care too much about it.

Looking at your pictures there isn't much I would change. It looks pretty efficient to me. I might have placed the logo differently and gone with darker nails but it looks fine either way.

The funny thing about the Predator Case story is that it didn't take brute strength to rip the handle off the copy. I knew that after looking at the construction and tugging on it just a little bit. I think that they decided that it was much better to stake their reputation on someone who understood their reputation.
 
John Barton said:
It looks as though Garth has changed a few things already to be about what I would have done. The ones I saw were too big and heavy, I mean that they were using tubes that were too big for the task. The case wasn't efficient enough for me. Don't get me wrong, I see a lot of setups that I can't stand and other people love. Whittens for example have the worst pocket design for getting into them. Well no, actually Justis has the worst but Whitten comes next. In MY OPINON. People who have those cases either don't mind the setup or they don't care too much about it.

Looking at your pictures there isn't much I would change. It looks pretty efficient to me. I might have placed the logo differently and gone with darker nails but it looks fine either way.

The funny thing about the Predator Case story is that it didn't take brute strength to rip the handle off the copy. I knew that after looking at the construction and tugging on it just a little bit. I think that they decided that it was much better to stake their reputation on someone who understood their reputation.

I completely understand the pocket issue with some cases. As I said in the original post, I lothe pocket. I undersand the they have a specific purpose, but in my oppinion they are asthetically unapealing. Concerning the weight, my case is extreemely light weight. Perhaps its because of the lack of pockets. In any case the weight and balance of the case in your hand is perfect. Prior to the shipment of the case Garth contacted me and gave me a brief overview of the case construction. One thing that he did durring construction that impressed me was to place cues in the case before attaching the handle, ensuring that the balance was perfect. He also asked me which hand I would cary the case in to make sure the hardware would be on the outside.
 
The Nails on the bottom, They look like Upholstery Tacks. I very well could be wrong but then again. When I'm ready tack a case I put a little support glue beforehand. This is the same method I've used myself. The Justis and Whitten cases have horrible Pocket Designs, IMO. I myself, have no room to talk because I'm just starting in the world:o . I still don't have a final design, Yet.

I like cases with One or less pockets, Thats Just who I am. I really just don't think there is a need for a-Bagillion pockets:) . I being a customer myself know that most of the time there are so many or too little options to work with.

I have always liked Garth's cases. I have herd only Great things about Garth.
 
cornerstone said:
I see more cases than most 20 people and i can assure you they are the best! it is what i have for a personal case , buy his cases with confidense and know that they protect your investment (cue) well

I bought my case on Bill's recommendation. When I bought my latest cue from him I asked for a case recommendation and he said OnQ was the best for the money and to protect my cue. As always BIll is honest and can be trusted. I ordered the case and it exceeded my expectations. The case weights 5 1/2 lbs empty. Is is too heavy? I don't think it could be any lighter unless it was made using thinner leather. It is one fine case and I don't think anyone would be disappointed.
 
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