revo question

Lol exactly. I like the way it hits and looks and I can afford $500 for a shaft. If you don’t or don’t think it’s worth the money then don’t buy it. I wish for the cue makers sake pool was more like golf. People with money run out and spend 1000’s on new golf clubs every year for the new better thing and no one bats and eye.

There are 4 reasons for that.

1) The golf population is exponentially larger than the pool population.

2) If you're going to play golf, you've accepted the fact that the sport is going to cost you money on a regular basis, and you're willing to spend it. Whether you play on public courses or have a private membership, you're forking out cash just to play. Not necessarily so in pool.

3) A pool player can use the same equipment for years. Golf requires regular costs like balls, shoes, clothing, etc, and is always offering new equipment options. The industry is constantly trying to upgrade equipment (some of which seem radical upon introduction), whether the upgrade works or not. Until the Revo came to being, what radical change has happened in pool? Break and jump cues perhaps? So golfers embrace change and don't look at their fellow players with disdain who go that route. Unlike the view of so many pool players regarding Revo users.

4) Most importantly, the majority of pool players have earned the accurate reputation of being cheap SOB's. If you don't believe me, ask anyone trying to make a living in the pool industry. Not the case in golf. You can't be that way if you want to play. It's a different form of pool hustling - people trying to get over on the industry by using the game to occupy their time, all the while trying to spend as little cash as possible. It's probably the biggest reason this sport will never get mainstream, meaning drawing outside media and advertisers to promote the game like what happens in golf. They have no interest in pool players. They understand the unmistakable profile.
 
I play with a Schon. I tried a Revo yesterday. I don’t get what all of the excitement is about, at all. But, if a Revo makes playing more fun for you then go for it. That is all that matters. As for me, I’ll stick with my crispy Schon shaft.
 
Lots of misinformation being spread about layered tips there. Lots of perceived claims with no backup facts.

Fact #1: all tips that are made of leather will mushroom.
Fact #2: all tips will glaze over, not limited to just layered tips.
Fact #3: choosing the correct hardness of tip to begin with will eliminate mushrooming and glazing almost completely.
Fact #4: all tips shape will be affected by how the player strokes the cue ball.
Fact #5: layered tips will be more consistent amongst themselves for hardness compared to single layer tips.
Fact #6: leather is a natural material, and some defects aren’t known until the tip is installed and played with. Single and layered tips both.
Fact #7: different hide tanning techniques produce different leather.
Fact #8: no super soft layered tip will become harder than it’s hard version through play.

I’ve had more issues with Triangle, LePro, and Elkmaster tips than any layered tip out there. The difference is that when I have to scrap a bad Triangle, I’m out a potential $.25. When I have to scrap a layered tip I’m out a minimum 10x more money than a triangle, up to 100x. For your demands of a layered tip, you’ll never get what you ask for. It’s completely insane to think that way. You’ve fallen into a sheeple style thinking. Someone recommended a softer tip to you, and you hated it in the end. So it must be the tips fault.

A good quality Triangle has no advantage over a layered tip. And a layered tip has no advantage over a good Triangle. The problem is that no single layered tip is as consistent as a layered tip, tip to tip. If I have 100 Kamui M Tan tips in front of me, they will be consistent enough that you can’t tell the difference between them installed. If I have 100 Triangle tips in front of me, I can either have 100 good or 100 bad. Or 50 good and 50 bad. There is no consistency for them and that’s why tip installers have pushed for layered tips. I can install 1 Moori Jewel on my shaft and go play without fear of it being different from the last. I can instal 5 Triangle tips before I get one that is playable. They’ll vary from rock hard, to spongy soft that doesn’t cut.

Then again, which top pros use a single layered tip? Efren and Earl the only ones left?

WOW. Great post. I get tired of hearing the same "stuff" all the time. So, you Sir have won a free TZAR Tip. Just PM your address (with hardness) and I'll mail it out this week,

Merry Xmas... am I allowed to say that ;)
 
Best "cheap" layered tip that I've found is Ultra Skin.

I like the "softs" and have them on almost all my shafts.

I have pounded the hell out of the ones on my shafts and they have yet to mushroom. I even use my playing shafts to break with.

They put a lot of action on the cue ball, too...if that is what you like. Almost every week, someone at the pool hall will walk up and ask me what kind of tip I am using. I sold all that I had, at cost, to those who wanted to try them out.

Need to buy some more.
 
Use the stock tip...it's a good tip. Try to get used to it.

Couldn't disagree more. That Pred Victory Soft tip is garbage. Chop it off and use something you are familiar with and already like. Put a Precision medium on my Revo and my regular shaft.
 
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Couldn't disagree more. That Pred Victory Soft tip is garbage. Chop it off and use something you are familiar with and already like.

Ok.... I'm taking shaft/tip to the dump:thumbup:....... But for real I'm hanging on to your signature.
 
The only reason I like triangle tips is that I think
they play better

Perhaps is the feel, confidence in something that I like

I hate to take expensive tips off,seems like a waste of money
but I don't like the feel of them
 
The only reason I like triangle tips is that I think
they play better

Perhaps is the feel, confidence in something that I like

I hate to take expensive tips off,seems like a waste of money
but I don't like the feel of them

I have removed expensive tips.... do whatever you're comfortable with.
I swear by the Triangle on my REVO.
 
The only reason I like triangle tips is that I think
they play better

Perhaps is the feel, confidence in something that I like

I hate to take expensive tips off,seems like a waste of money
but I don't like the feel of them

Price doesn’t matter.. if you like the feel of it and it give you more confidence to make balls go into pockets thats what you should use.
 
The changing tips gets complicated
jack is eager to try the Revo,I sent him a cue with the radial

i did not particlarly want threrevo,possibly a new tip would help

But Jack needed to try this first

If he thinks he wants to keep it fine
if not I will sell it for what it is worth,almost new

If no one wants to buy then I will change the tip or trade for the smaller tip shaft


At present I am only a old man playing old man one hole
a more lively shaft doesn't really mean much to me

if i played 9 ball,it might be worth it to get
more power
 
Dean... do not have any preconceived notions about the Revo. Play with it. Set some traps. Find some caroms. Bank a few and go 8&out. You’ll love the REVO
 
The changing tips gets complicated
jack is eager to try the Revo,I sent him a cue with the radial

i did not particlarly want threrevo,possibly a new tip would help

But Jack needed to try this first

If he thinks he wants to keep it fine
if not I will sell it for what it is worth,almost new

If no one wants to buy then I will change the tip or trade for the smaller tip shaft


At present I am only a old man playing old man one hole
a more lively shaft doesn't really mean much to me

if i played 9 ball,it might be worth it to get
more power

Dean, if you want a TZAR tip, please PM me your address. You pay what you want after you've given it a go. You tell me what it's worth, I wont' tell you. If you don't like it, don't pay for it. If you like it a little pay a little, if you like it a LOT, send me a LOT :)
 
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