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I've been reading these revo threads with interest as I just recently (about a month into it now) switched to a 12.4mm revo myself.

This whole debate seems to boil down to two arguments:

-Cost and is it a fad or not
-Performance

To the cost/fad objectors out there, who cares what people spend on their hobbies? I went from a crazy expensive cue to a revo that costs much less than the cue I was playing with before. Did the cost of the previous cue make me play better? Nope, and that's not why I bought that cue in the first place. I bought and played with that Southwest because (in no particular order): 1) I could afford it 2) I thought it was a good investment 3) I thought it was pretty and 4) I agreed with the generally held opinion that they "hit" great.

Performance is also being debated and all I can say about that so far is that it does what's advertised, which is reduced (greatly in my opinion) deflection. So much so that it's been difficult for me to adjust, but I'm getting the hang of it. Also, and this is a performance criteria for me, the material is hard and very difficult to ding compared to wood. Believe it or not, that's the main reason I switched and in that regard, I'm 100% satisfied. I've had a few "oh shit" moments where the shaft has hit the edge of the light or table and I winced but when I checked the shaft for a ding, it's still perfect. I can't tell you for sure that it's impossible to ding but it's definitely ding proof in normal conditions. Can't say that about any kind of wood shaft.

Before people start minimizing the "ding" issue, I get it, it's not a big deal to most of you. It's a big deal to me. I hate them and hated taking time to remove them myself or having to pay someone else to remove them. Now I don't have to worry about that anymore, ever.
 
I've been playing with my 12.4 mm Revo for over a month now and I must say, I really like it. I like the hit and I like that it's so slick.

The thing I like the most about it is the coating on it that makes it so slick. I also bought the BeCue Dark Matter break cue, and the shaft on that cue actually feels sticky (even when freshly cleaned) compared to the Revo. It's not actually sticky, it's just that the glossy finish on the BeCue is nowhere near as slick as the Revo.

I doubt if I'm actually playing better with the Revo, but I did just take 2nd place in a 32 person tournament and I now have the 3rd highest average in our ~100 man league.
 
Alex Kanapilly said:
I've been reading these revo threads with interest as I just recently (about a month into it now) switched to a 12.4mm revo myself.

This whole debate seems to boil down to two arguments:

-Cost and is it a fad or not
-Performance

To the cost/fad objectors out there, who cares what people spend on their hobbies? I went from a crazy expensive cue to a revo that costs much less than the cue I was playing with before. Did the cost of the previous cue make me play better? Nope, and that's not why I bought that cue in the first place. I bought and played with that Southwest because (in no particular order): 1) I could afford it 2) I thought it was a good investment 3) I thought it was pretty and 4) I agreed with the generally held opinion that they "hit" great.

Performance is also being debated and all I can say about that so far is that it does what's advertised, which is reduced (greatly in my opinion) deflection. So much so that it's been difficult for me to adjust, but I'm getting the hang of it. Also, and this is a performance criteria for me, the material is hard and very difficult to ding compared to wood. Believe it or not, that's the main reason I switched and in that regard, I'm 100% satisfied. I've had a few "oh shit" moments where the shaft has hit the edge of the light or table and I winced but when I checked the shaft for a ding, it's still perfect. I can't tell you for sure that it's impossible to ding but it's definitely ding proof in normal conditions. Can't say that about any kind of wood shaft.

Before people start minimizing the "ding" issue, I get it, it's not a big deal to most of you. It's a big deal to me. I hate them and hated taking time to remove them myself or having to pay someone else to remove them. Now I don't have to worry about that anymore, ever.
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I agree about the difficulty in adjusting to a revo even from a 314-3 or in my case from a V (Predator Vantage) shaft. I like using inside english on thin cut shots, and I could aim to hit a little more of the OB, knowing the deflection would result in my hitting it thinner than I was aiming. I had trouble when switching to the Revo, as it required me to aim to hit the OB thinner, considering there would be less deflection. I just had trouble getting used to it.

Now that I've returned to using my Vantage shaft, I'm now more comfortable knowing I can make those shots. I guess when you've aimed a certain way for years when using inside or outside english, it's just hard to make that adjustment successfully. Even though it's not a big aim adjustment, on tight pockets, that little bit is often the difference between making and missing a shot.
 
Alex Kanapilly said:
I've been reading these revo threads with interest as I just recently (about a month into it now) switched to a 12.4mm revo myself.

This whole debate seems to boil down to two arguments:

-Cost and is it a fad or not
-Performance

To the cost/fad objectors out there, who cares what people spend on their hobbies? I went from a crazy expensive cue to a revo that costs much less than the cue I was playing with before. Did the cost of the previous cue make me play better? Nope, and that's not why I bought that cue in the first place. I bought and played with that Southwest because (in no particular order): 1) I could afford it 2) I thought it was a good investment 3) I thought it was pretty and 4) I agreed with the generally held opinion that they "hit" great.

Performance is also being debated and all I can say about that so far is that it does what's advertised, which is reduced (greatly in my opinion) deflection. So much so that it's been difficult for me to adjust, but I'm getting the hang of it. Also, and this is a performance criteria for me, the material is hard and very difficult to ding compared to wood. Believe it or not, that's the main reason I switched and in that regard, I'm 100% satisfied. I've had a few "oh shit" moments where the shaft has hit the edge of the light or table and I winced but when I checked the shaft for a ding, it's still perfect. I can't tell you for sure that it's impossible to ding but it's definitely ding proof in normal conditions. Can't say that about any kind of wood shaft.

Before people start minimizing the "ding" issue, I get it, it's not a big deal to most of you. It's a big deal to me. I hate them and hated taking time to remove them myself or having to pay someone else to remove them. Now I don't have to worry about that anymore, ever.
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I think the term you are looking for is "stiction" when comparing the Revo to the Becue as far as how they feel when stroked.

It matters greatly to me.

When I handed my Joss to a player to try recently his comment was "holy shit!" when he felt the shaft stiction, which is virtually zero.

Plenty rave about low deflection, I require low stiction. I don't like to feel the shaft drag on my skin.

I promise, it ain't easy to keep it that way with regular play.

The dent resistance matter is serious to me as well. Mentally speaking it messes with me if I bump my cue on anything. You would see me obsessively checking it the rest of the night.

Any flaw, imperfection, ding, or stiction must be resolved ASAP on my shaft. That is not easily maintained with wood. Obviously a top notch shaft of top notch wood finished perfectly to start with is required.

I call it my psychosis. I have a stash of shafts. No, they are not for sale or trade. I dig very old well seasoned maple.

Could that all be simplified for me with CF? Maybe so. But it would still be a serious matter to get me to let go of my best wood shafts. They are treasures.

Like fine musical instruments, there are those made of amazing modern materials that make amazing music. But then there is Antonio Stradivari and the instruments he made of wood. Each excellent. Each different. Each with a personality. Each with its own voice. Each can sing as an individual. Each a treasure.

Hard to get emotional like that about CF...yet.....but maybe someday...

I do think that today's Searing/Szam/SW etc will be tomorrow's Stradivari. They will become even more the territory of the connoisseur of fine instruments.

Pool is not tennis. It is not golf. So many invoke those comparisons. In this regard it is more like playing a violin. And at the top of play, the players are more like violinists than tennis players or golfers.

Golf and tennis are crude next to cue sports.

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I know this for a fact

If anyone likes the REVO, BAR-B-CUE, or any of those other plastic
pieces of crap, you are a Communist and I will hate you forever. I mean
it.
jack
 
So genuine question here, and if it has been answered I apologize. I don't have, nor have I ever hit with, a Revo. A bit out of my price range. But a few years ago, my dad (RIP, miss you pops) called me bragging about the new cue with a graphite shaft he had just bought; How it wouldn't dent or warp. I never saw the cue and have never played with a graphite shaft, but are those shafts where the REVO and like shafts evolved from?

Did anyone ever make high quality graphite shafts? Again sorry if this is common knowledge that I am ignorant to.
 
jokrswylde said:
So genuine question here, and if it has been answered I apologize. I don't have, nor have I ever hit with, a Revo. A bit out of my price range. But a few years ago, my dad (RIP, miss you pops) called me bragging about the new cue with a graphite shaft he had just bought; How it wouldn't dent or warp. I never saw the cue and have never played with a graphite shaft, but are those shafts where the REVO and like shafts evolved from?

Did anyone ever make high quality graphite shafts? Again sorry if this is common knowledge that I am ignorant to.
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Nothing with the material/build quality of the Revo/BeCue has ever been offered before. Some of those early shafts were nothing more than fiberglass with a little cf weave on the outside.
 
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