Rich Cue / Starfire Jet?

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11Cues

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Can anyone confirm whether this is an Abe Rich / Rich Cue / Starfire model? The original owner purchased it at Black Jack’s Pool Hall in Lakewood, CA and has owned it for decades.
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Cornerman said:
It’s not an Abe Rich.
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I appreciate the response, however I'm fairly confident in my identification, and am primarily looking for any definitive feedback to either support or refute my conclusion. Is there anything specifically that you're seeing that leads you to believe it's not the maker/model that I've landed on?

I've located another forum post from 8 years ago, with images of an identical cue, and everything seems to line up. The primary reason for my certainty, though, is the attached manufacturers brochure. Wrap color aside, it's a match, and I'm just hoping to get confirmation from someone who's actually owned the model in question.
 

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Not positive but I believe the cue was made by Saul Rich.
Saul and Abe were related, maybe cousins? Both made similar looking cues.
 
Cuebuddy said:
Not positive but I believe the cue was made by Saul Rich.
Saul and Abe were related, maybe cousins? Both made similar looking cues.
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That seems plausible, the original owner stated that he purchased in the late sixties after returning from Vietnam. I believe I read somewhere that Saul founded the company, and was followed up by Abe, maybe a father son thing? I'm not sure, but I appreciate the feedback. (y)
 
11Cues said:
That seems plausible, the original owner stated that he purchased in the late sixties after returning from Vietnam. I believe I read somewhere that Saul founded the company, and was followed up by Abe, maybe a father son thing? I'm not sure, but I appreciate the feedback. (y)
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Looks like you were spot on, this is page 669 of the blue book 3rd edition.
 

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cueman

Thread 'History of Rich Cues'

There have been threads about Rich Cue aka Rich Q in the past and most either talked about Sol Rich or Abe Rich who eventually went out on his own.

Here is some additional information sent to me by the last owner of Rich Cue.

RICH CUE HISTORY
By Isaac Algaze

I was born February 15 1926 and raised through the depression years. I joined the navy in 1944 and went through the invasion of Italy and France.
In the 50s I opened a company called Family Billiard Parlour and sold billiard supplies.
I am the last owner of Rich Cue and I am still around living in Boynton Beach Florida and age 89...
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11Cues said:
I appreciate the response, however I'm fairly confident in my identification, and am primarily looking for any definitive feedback to either support or refute my conclusion. Is there anything specifically that you're seeing that leads you to believe it's not the maker/model that I've landed on?

I've located another forum post from 8 years ago, with images of an identical cue, and everything seems to line up. The primary reason for my certainty, though, is the attached manufacturers brochure. Wrap color aside, it's a match, and I'm just hoping to get confirmation from someone who's actually owned the model in question.
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I have had a number cues from that catalog, including Starfire -Jet, and Starfire-Jet ebony.

You have one. But it's not Abe Rich as you have been told already.
 
11Cues said:
I appreciate the response, however I'm fairly confident in my identification, and am primarily looking for any definitive feedback to either support or refute my conclusion. Is there anything specifically that you're seeing that leads you to believe it's not the maker/model that I've landed on?

I've located another forum post from 8 years ago, with images of an identical cue, and everything seems to line up. The primary reason for my certainty, though, is the attached manufacturers brochure. Wrap color aside, it's a match, and I'm just hoping to get confirmation from someone who's actually owned the model in question.
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As I said, it’s not an Abe Rich. If you’re trying to show me a Rich Catalog, then that is your proof that it is not an Abe Rich.
 
11Cues said:
That seems plausible, the original owner stated that he purchased in the late sixties after returning from Vietnam. I believe I read somewhere that Saul founded the company, and was followed up by Abe, maybe a father son thing? I'm not sure, but I appreciate the feedback. (y)
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I wrote the InsidePool article on Abe Rich. In case you wanted some answers.
 
Chopdoc said:
I have had a number cues from that catalog, including Starfire -Jet, and Starfire-Jet ebony.

You have one. But it's not Abe Rich as you have been told already.
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Thank you, great information, and exactly the type of response I was looking for.

So just to be clear, it IS a Rich Cue, and it IS a Starfire-Jet (Rosewood), but it was more likely crafted by Saul or Isadore than Abe? Again, the original owner states purchase around 1967.

Thanks again, much appreciation. (y)
 
you must not have been around the east coast when they were in many pool rooms. no matter how good you were they hit bad enough so you sold it to an unsuspecting sucker.

some may have hit well and hope the op cue he has works okay for him.

most used a paradice or palmer and they all hit well until buyers wanted all sorts of nylon rings on the end of the butt
so they looked cool.
 
maha said:
you must not have been around the east coast when they were in many pool rooms. no matter how good you were they hit bad enough so you sold it to an unsuspecting sucker.

some may have hit well and hope the op cue he has works okay for him.

most used a paradice or palmer and they all hit well until buyers wanted all sorts of nylon rings on the end of the butt
so they looked cool.
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You must not be familiar with the current cue market.

Old information is sometimes historically valuable, and sometimes just old information.

You never hit with the cue posted. Period.
 
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