Rich or Gandy???

Hunter

Hunter

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Hi all,

This cue isn't the cheap import model (that was probably a replica of this cue) that I saw a few of as a kid. I'm pretty sure it was either a Gandy or a Rich. Can anyone clear up this mystery for me?

Thanks!

Hunter
 

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I had an identical cue when I was a kid...it was a Rich..
..two shafts, cost me $85
 
pt109 said:
I had an identical cue when I was a kid...it was a Rich..
..two shafts, cost me $85
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Thanks PT! I bought my first one for $85, too, but mine only had one shaft. The owner said it was a "Ridge". Later on, I saw people selling a couple as Gandys, but I thought they were Rich cues. I'm assuming Abe and not Saul?
 
Hunter said:
Thanks PT! I bought my first one for $85, too, but mine only had one shaft. The owner said it was a "Ridge". Later on, I saw people selling a couple as Gandys, but I thought they were Rich cues. I'm assuming Abe and not Saul?
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I'm pretty sure it was the New York Rich...Saul
..I bought it in Albuquerque at a billiard supply...Abe's cues didn't get around so far back then.
 
deadnutz said:
FYI, for future reference...... every Gandy I've seen has aluminum shaft inserts.
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Same here, the ones I have seen and the ones I pwn have aluminum inserts..

Further, the exact model Gandy that this cue gets confused with is the HC-145.

Same design, no points, rings, dots in butts sleeve.

This cue is certainly a Rich, most likely out of New York.

This is a Gandy HC-145: http://www.classiccues.com/cuemakers/cues_under_1000.htm

And this is my HC-145: http://forums.azbilliards.com/picture.php?albumid=2207&pictureid=17404

Original catalog: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=2184419&postcount=9

I have several old Rich cue catalogs but have yet to find this model.

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Chopdoc said:
Same here, the ones I have seen and the ones I pwn have aluminum inserts..

Further, the exact model Gandy that this cue gets confused with is the HC-145.

Same design, no points, rings, dots in butts sleeve.

This cue is certainly a Rich, most likely out of New York.

This is a Gandy HC-145: http://www.classiccues.com/cuemakers/cues_under_1000.htm

And this is my HC-145: http://forums.azbilliards.com/picture.php?albumid=2207&pictureid=17404

Original catalog: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=2184419&postcount=9

I have several old Rich cue catalogs but have yet to find this model.

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Thanks, Doc! I can always use more info about cues, and you know your stuff about Gandys! I picked up a matched pair of these Rich cues on Ebay this last weekend for a very reasonable price. I remember the one I had as a kid hit pretty solidly. I figured they would be good cues to loan friends that don't have their own cues or newbies that make me nervous using my collectible cues.
 
Hunter said:
Thanks, Doc! I can always use more info about cues, and you know your stuff about Gandys! I picked up a matched pair of these Rich cues on Ebay this last weekend for a very reasonable price. I remember the one I had as a kid hit pretty solidly. I figured they would be good cues to loan friends that don't have their own cues or newbies that make me nervous using my collectible cues.
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Thanks. I am learning. It helped when I got a couple of them.

I have an HC-145 and an HC-150.

I have a few Rich cues as well, both Abe and Saul. And I have the model this post is about as well.

I saw those cues on Ebay. Fun to own and play with.

Enjoy them. :thumbup:

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Hunter said:
Hi all,

This cue isn't the cheap import model (that was probably a replica of this cue) that I saw a few of as a kid. I'm pretty sure it was either a Gandy or a Rich. Can anyone clear up this mystery for me?

Thanks!

Hunter
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These were referred to as Rich "Starfire", if I remember right. Came in both ebony and rosewood. I bought one in a swap shop, {pawn shop in other parts of the country} an ebony one but thinking back on it, the wrap and the shaft were both different. That one may have been a Gandy, I'm not sure now. Too many years ago.
 
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Pushout said:
These were referred to as Rich "Starfire", if I remember right. Came in both ebony and rosewood.
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I believe that is correct. I have a note to that effect in my files but no source to validate it.

This post calls it a Rich 3C Starfire Jet model. http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=305212


By the way, I believe you got a nice deal on that pair of cues. I saw them listed and relisted and nobody bit the first time.

I already have one, so I was not going for it.


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